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thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:11 PM ET
Just to point out (seeing as I was one of the people who nearly threw the remote at the tv-screen when it first came out that we had a chance to move Miller, but didn't even look into it)...

The choice wasn't Lack vs. Miller.

Lack was $1.15 million, while Miller was 6. We had the choice of Lack + an extra $4.85 million vs. Ryan Miller plus zero.

Now, you can argue that Miller is a lot better than Lack. But, let's just see...

Lack: 2.81 GAA
Miller: 2.70 GAA

That's a difference of 9 goals over a season.

We spent just under $5 million to prevent 9 goals.

We could have given up those 9 goals - and used that $5 million to get players who could score and who would make significant upgrades to between 1 and 4 slots on our roster. The fact that Benning didn't even seem to realize this fact is worrying, to say the least.

For instance, we could have swapped out Yannick Weber - for Cody Franson - and still had $3 million left to play with! So, instead of Adam Cracknell, we could have had a Joel Ward and his 21 goals or Justin Williams and his 22, etc...

So, we could have given up 9 goals by keeping Lack (and it's questionable that Lack would have been worse than Miller, this might have been 0 goals), lost 0 goals from losing Weber, and lost 5 goals from losing Cracknell - and replaced it with 25 to 43 (or more) goals. Those 29 extra goals would have moved us into the playoffs...

We could have made an almost imperceptible change in our goaltending - but, made our team a hell of a lot better in the process - and our GM didn't even think about it... Uggh...

- stringerbell

Get over it already. I would take Miller over Lack in a heartbeat but it wasn't even about them. Try Markstrom or Lack.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 6:14 PM ET
How's it feel to be back to work?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:17 PM ET
I'd like more picks. Unfortunately looks like that won't be the case.

We had 2 2nds. Now we have 0. I'll stop. Won't bring up the TDL again.

- storm88

We also had 0 3rds and now we have 1. Do you know the difference between the 3rd and 2nd? 9 spots. WHOOPTY DOOOOOOO.

Gudbranson trade was giving Florida a 2nd no matter what. Sucks it was this years, but if it wasn't this years, it would have been next years. Our defense is a bit more solidified.

On another note, man people in Hockey Futures are all retarded. All they know how to do is say "his advanced stats are bad, so he must be bad". They must think Yost is a god or something.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:17 PM ET
How's it feel to be back to work?
- LeftCoaster

Great. Though after 6 weeks off I have forgotten how physically demanding my job is. 3 days and everything is sore.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 6:17 PM ET
Great. Though after 6 weeks off I have forgotten how physically demanding my job is. 3 days and everything is sore.
- thundachunk

older you get the quicker you lose it.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:18 PM ET
IMO he'd be very very very wise, for the betterment of the future of the club, to make the selection at #5.
- LeftCoaster

You are right, but if an offer blows our socks off, can you say no?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 18 @ 6:20 PM ET
You are right, but if an offer blows our socks off, can you say no?
- Retinalz

I don't see anyone giving up a top six forward for the pick, can't even think of an example where a team did that?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:23 PM ET
You are right, but if an offer blows our socks off, can you say no?
- Retinalz

Drouin
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:26 PM ET
Drouin
- thundachunk

Drouin-BoHo-JV would be a nice line. but at this point I would not do Drouin for 5OA by itself.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 6:28 PM ET
Just to point out (seeing as I was one of the people who nearly threw the remote at the tv-screen when it first came out that we had a chance to move Miller, but didn't even look into it)...

The choice wasn't Lack vs. Miller.

Lack was $1.15 million, while Miller was 6. We had the choice of Lack + an extra $4.85 million vs. Ryan Miller plus zero.

Now, you can argue that Miller is a lot better than Lack. But, let's just see...

Lack: 2.81 GAA
Miller: 2.70 GAA

That's a difference of 9 goals over a season.

We spent just under $5 million to prevent 9 goals.

We could have given up those 9 goals - and used that $5 million to get players who could score and who would make significant upgrades to between 1 and 4 slots on our roster. The fact that Benning didn't even seem to realize this fact is worrying, to say the least.

For instance, we could have swapped out Yannick Weber - for Cody Franson - and still had $3 million left to play with! So, instead of Adam Cracknell, we could have had a Joel Ward and his 21 goals or Justin Williams and his 22, etc...

So, we could have given up 9 goals by keeping Lack (and it's questionable that Lack would have been worse than Miller, this might have been 0 goals), lost 0 goals from losing Weber, and lost 5 goals from losing Cracknell - and replaced it with 25 to 43 (or more) goals. Those 29 extra goals would have moved us into the playoffs...

We could have made an almost imperceptible change in our goaltending - but, made our team a hell of a lot better in the process - and our GM didn't even think about it... Uggh...

- stringerbell


Wow
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jun 18 @ 6:30 PM ET
This is three years in a row I'll be attending a wedding on Draft day


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:31 PM ET
You are right, but if an offer blows our socks off, can you say no?
- Retinalz


My take & JB's exactly. Cannot get attached at 5OA at all costs.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 6:32 PM ET
Drouin-BoHo-JV would be a nice line. but at this point I would not do Drouin for 5OA by itself.
- Retinalz


I'm the only person that agrees with you
I'd rather have Tkachuk or PLD than Drouin
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:32 PM ET
I don't see anyone giving up a top six forward for the pick, can't even think of an example where a team did that?
- LeftCoaster


If not then we keep 5OA as JB said.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:34 PM ET
I'm the only person that agrees with you
I'd rather have Tkachuk or PLD than Drouin

- CanuckDon


I agree as well cuz Drouin costs too much.
Also TB will have to protect him for the expansion draft.
Tough cap times in TB also.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
This is three years in a row I'll be attending a wedding on Draft day
- vancity787


wifi? stream it. open bar?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 6:43 PM ET
I agree as well cuz Drouin costs too much.
Also TB will have to protect him for the expansion draft.
Tough cap times in TB also.

- Nighthawk


For me Drouin is a more talented Baertchi. We need a play driving beast like PLD or Tkachuk more. This team needs size, grit and skill in the top 6 and our pick will address this deficiency
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jun 18 @ 6:47 PM ET
wifi? stream it. open bar?
- storm88

Pff open bar. I fukking wish.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 6:51 PM ET
Pff open bar. I fukking wish.
- vancity787


People still have non-open bar weddings? It's 2016 for (frank)sakes
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 18 @ 6:57 PM ET
I'm the only person that agrees with you
I'd rather have Tkachuk or PLD than Drouin

- CanuckDon

I would look at Drouin+ for 5OA. But TB likely wouldn't do it as that plus would need to be their first this year, and maybe even more to "knock our socks off"
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 18 @ 7:00 PM ET
Pff open bar. I fukking wish.
- vancity787


I'd bring my own mini bar. Out in parking lot. With a generator and tv to watch the draft

just leave a cardboard cut out of yourself in your chair.

Speaking of which. I should make a run to the beer store.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 18 @ 7:01 PM ET
We also had 0 3rds and now we have 1. Do you know the difference between the 3rd and 2nd? 9 spots. WHOOPTY DOOOOOOO.

Gudbranson trade was giving Florida a 2nd no matter what. Sucks it was this years, but if it wasn't this years, it would have been next years. Our defense is a bit more solidified.

On another note, man people in Hockey Futures are all retarded. All they know how to do is say "his advanced stats are bad, so he must be bad". They must think Yost is a god or something.

- Retinalz


I'm quite aware. I'm also happy with the Guddy trade. I'm just wanting to eat my cake too.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 18 @ 7:18 PM ET
People still have non-open bar weddings? It's 2016 for (frank)sakes
- CanuckDon


I worked a few catering gigs at receptions and even if the wine is free, people b!tch about the quality
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 7:22 PM ET
Just to point out (seeing as I was one of the people who nearly threw the remote at the tv-screen when it first came out that we had a chance to move Miller, but didn't even look into it)...

The choice wasn't Lack vs. Miller.

Lack was $1.15 million, while Miller was 6. We had the choice of Lack + an extra $4.85 million vs. Ryan Miller plus zero.

Now, you can argue that Miller is a lot better than Lack. But, let's just see...

Lack: 2.81 GAA
Miller: 2.70 GAA

That's a difference of 9 goals over a season.

We spent just under $5 million to prevent 9 goals.

We could have given up those 9 goals - and used that $5 million to get players who could score and who would make significant upgrades to between 1 and 4 slots on our roster. The fact that Benning didn't even seem to realize this fact is worrying, to say the least.

For instance, we could have swapped out Yannick Weber - for Cody Franson - and still had $3 million left to play with! So, instead of Adam Cracknell, we could have had a Joel Ward and his 21 goals or Justin Williams and his 22, etc...

So, we could have given up 9 goals by keeping Lack (and it's questionable that Lack would have been worse than Miller, this might have been 0 goals), lost 0 goals from losing Weber, and lost 5 goals from losing Cracknell - and replaced it with 25 to 43 (or more) goals. Those 29 extra goals would have moved us into the playoffs...

We could have made an almost imperceptible change in our goaltending - but, made our team a hell of a lot better in the process - and our GM didn't even think about it... Uggh...

- stringerbell



Holypoop man, shoulda, coulda, woulda...1st off it wasn't Miller vs Lack it was Markstrom vs Lack and I'd take Markstrom any day over the two.

We finally have a Gm that knows how to draft and yet some people can't stop the hate from getting their facts straight.


BTW...hello from Hecla Island Resort Manitoba, 6 more sleeps and I'm back on the best coast..
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 7:26 PM ET
Holypoop man, shoulda, coulda, woulda...1st off it wasn't Miller vs Lack it was Markstrom vs Lack and I'd take Markstrom any day over the two.

We finally have a Gm that knows how to draft and yet some people can't stop the hate from getting their facts straight.


BTW...hello from Hecla Island Resort Manitoba, 6 more sleeps and I'm back on the best coast..

- Makita


He posts something nonsensical once every few weeks...he is giving Stringer Bell a bad name
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