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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:10 AM ET
Not gonna happen, but the old man trying to get Calgary's 1st round pick.


- tpcg402



sounds like they actually want the draft pick...

https://www.nhl.com/news/...t/c-280998654?tid=2777643

martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:11 AM ET
Just watched every goal the Pens scored in the playoffs linked to Lange's commentary. There were some beauties. Also, we scored on King Henry.... ALOT!
- kgrpitt

he had a really bad playoffs. hell the team infront of him had a horrible playoffs too. it is obvious hank is on the steep decline (sadly for me as a swed and happily for me as a rival team fan.)
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:12 AM ET
sounds like they actually want the draft pick...

https://www.nhl.com/news/...t/c-280998654?tid=2777643

- MattStrat

a goalie is one of their needs and fleury fills that big time until their prospect is ready.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 10:13 AM ET
that is the gm of the year that is asking. he got daley for scuderi so he can probably get the 6th overall for fleury
- martox


No he can't ...I trust treliving not to overpay let alone massively overpay .... If Rutherford wants that I offer him a 4th rounder and let fleury rot on the bench in Pitt
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
No he can't ...I trust treliving not to overpay let alone massively overpay .... If Rutherford wants that I offer him a 4th rounder and let fleury rot on the bench in Pitt
- Redmile247


What are your thoughts on a deal centered around Fleury for Shinkaruk? My thought was Fleury + 4th for Shinkaruk.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
What are your thoughts on a deal centered around Fleury for Shinkaruk? My thought was Fleury + 4th for Shinkaruk.
- cap1681



Why would they do that when they have Allen?
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
Not gonna happen, but the old man trying to get Calgary's 1st round pick.


- tpcg402


Its the right starting point in negotiations for the Penguins. You have some time before the draft. Press for the #1. Offer some sweeteners. Talk about how Fleury is the best goalie on the market at a reasonable costs. Workhorse. Has won a cup. Statistically he's been getting better. Then make a deal for 2 2nds and maybe a B prospects or just 2 2nds.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
My trade proposal:

Fleury + 4th for Shinkaruk

- cap1681

I think we are fine with
Maatta Letang
Dumo Daley
Cole Schultz/Dp
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:19 AM ET
No he can't ...I trust treliving not to overpay let alone massively overpay .... If Rutherford wants that I offer him a 4th rounder and let fleury rot on the bench in Pitt
- Redmile247

we'll see
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:19 AM ET
I think we are fine with
Maatta Letang
Dumo Daley
Cole Schultz/Dp

- nh4442


Shinkaruk is a LW
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:19 AM ET
I think we are fine with
Maatta Letang
Dumo Daley
Cole Schultz/Dp

- nh4442

We can't go to war with only 6 d though. You need 7 legit NHL talents and two more who you can fee comfortable with plugging in due to injury. D depth is a need.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
Not gonna happen, but the old man trying to get Calgary's 1st round pick.


- tpcg402

There is just no shot this happens. But if it does well holy poop. I hope The Old Man never retires.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
What are your thoughts on a deal centered around Fleury for Shinkaruk? My thought was Fleury + 4th for Shinkaruk.
- cap1681


I think it's probably a fair deal ... Part of me wants him to stay in cgy and flourish just to piss off Canucks fans but if we got fleury for him and he did great in Pitt that would be ok too
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
No he can't ...I trust treliving not to overpay let alone massively overpay .... If Rutherford wants that I offer him a 4th rounder and let fleury rot on the bench in Pitt
- Redmile247


Fleury is likely free for ownership if he's the difference between being a lottery pick or a playoff team. Its a good deal for both teams. You are probably underestimating how good of a player Fleury is and how good of a locker room guy he is for a team that needs leadership.

Might not make you a 2nd round playoff team, but certainly would project the flames into the playoffs with Fleury. Something like 2 2nds is probably a win for both teams. If you force Wideman into the trade then add something more.

Only way 6th pick comes our way is if its something like

sprong + Fleury = 6th pick + wideman

I'd consider that pretty fair. Sprong I would guess is like a 10-15th pick this year.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:21 AM ET
Anderson was an average goalie on a great hockey team. He is going to get peppered in TO and the media will be all over it and him by Christmas.

Look how many goalies this has happened to the past 10 or so years.

- MattStrat

Thinking that Andersen isn't good doesn't make Fleury any better of a fit for Toronto.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 10:22 AM ET
Why would they do that when they have Allen?
- MattStrat


When did the flames get Allen ?
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
I think it's probably a fair deal ... Part of me wants him to stay in cgy and flourish just to piss off Canucks fans but if we got fleury for him and he did great in Pitt that would be ok too
- Redmile247


Shinkaruk would fit into the Pens system perfectly.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
Thinking that Andersen isn't good doesn't make Fleury any better of a fit for Toronto.
- Victoro311



He's good just dont think he's that good. He had the luxury of playing behind a very, very solid team.

Yeah the Leafs are headed in the right direction...but so were the Oilers and if the Leafs actually do get better it wont be dramatically next year. It will take a few more years. You and I might understand that but the Leafs media wont. If Anderson's stats take a big drop, look out. I already feel bad for him.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
We can't go to war with only 6 d though. You need 7 legit NHL talents and two more who you can fee comfortable with plugging in due to injury. D depth is a need.
- Victoro311


If we resign Schultz you have 7 NHL defenseman. No team starts the season with more than that. Pencil in a 3rd round pick trade for a 8D at the deadline. Would be nice if we had legit NHL prospects in our system, but I think that is very questionable. No team starts a NHL year with the 8D we had in the playoffs.

I think Schultz is the best fit that is UFA this year. Hopefully he is back.

MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
When did the flames get Allen ?
- Redmile247



He was talking about trading him to the Blues for Shattenkirk.

EDIT: nevermind. totally misread the name. Enough internet for me today.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
Fleury is likely free for ownership if he's the difference between being a lottery pick or a playoff team. Its a good deal for both teams. You are probably underestimating how good of a player Fleury is and how good of a locker room guy he is for a team that needs leadership.

Might not make you a 2nd round playoff team, but certainly would project the flames into the playoffs with Fleury. Something like 2 2nds is probably a win for both teams. If you force Wideman into the trade then add something more.

Only way 6th pick comes our way is if its something like

sprong + Fleury = 6th pick + wideman

I'd consider that pretty fair. Sprong I would guess is like a 10-15th pick this year.

- sditulli


I just don't see the point of Pitt adding to get the 6th from the flames perspective ...plus BT is trying to move up to the Columbus pick with the 6th +
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
Cals 6th OA for Flower and Cole
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
Fleury is likely free for ownership if he's the difference between being a lottery pick or a playoff team. Its a good deal for both teams. You are probably underestimating how good of a player Fleury is and how good of a locker room guy he is for a team that needs leadership.

Might not make you a 2nd round playoff team, but certainly would project the flames into the playoffs with Fleury. Something like 2 2nds is probably a win for both teams. If you force Wideman into the trade then add something more.

Only way 6th pick comes our way is if its something like

sprong + Fleury = 6th pick + wideman

I'd consider that pretty fair. Sprong I would guess is like a 10-15th pick this year.

- sditulli

I don't think that trade helps us at all.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
He was talking about trading him to the Blues for Shattenkirk.

EDIT: nevermind. totally misread the name. Enough internet for me today.

- MattStrat




I kinda thought that the route ya went but I had to ask still
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:27 AM ET


I kinda thought that the route ya went but I had to ask still

- Redmile247



Thanks for making me aware before I kept it going
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