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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:11 PM ET
interesting, you hear if they think he'll be signed soon ?
- yen6d1

Murray knows more then he is letting on to.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:12 PM ET
12m is kinda crazy for stammer...yeah, I get what he brings to the table, but as good as he is, 12 is more than kane and toews makes and that ain't right imo
- Michael Pachla


I got laughed at for saying this (at 2 million less).
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:12 PM ET
12 mill is a little much if you ask me, 10-11 is fine.
- SABRES 89

I love what he brings, but still have a question mark or two and that doesn't even include health issues...with kane and toews, I love what they bring and have no question marks concerning either
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:13 PM ET
I love what he brings, but still have a question mark or two and that doesn't even include health issues...with kane and toews, I love what they bring and have no question marks concerning either
- Michael Pachla


heresy.

(Different than hearsay, all you other dopes.)
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 3:13 PM ET
I love what he brings, but still have a question mark or two and that doesn't even include health issues...with kane and toews, I love what they bring and have no question marks concerning either
- Michael Pachla


Kane has personal issue question marks.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 21 @ 3:14 PM ET
Kane has personal issue question marks.
- JVince11


which one?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 21 @ 3:15 PM ET
12 m is ok with me I just want 1 cup

We can suck for the next 40
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:15 PM ET
I got laughed at for saying this (at 2 million less).
- Der Kaiser

don't take it personal, it happens...btw...

how many 's did you get when you wrote that?
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 21 @ 3:16 PM ET
I love what he brings, but still have a question mark or two and that doesn't even include health issues...with kane and toews, I love what they bring and have no question marks concerning either
- Michael Pachla


Lots of Q's about Kane's ability to stay out of trouble off the ice.
yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 21 @ 3:16 PM ET
Murray knows more then he is letting on to.
- SABRES 89

I kind of figured that when the 3rd round pick wasnt conditional..
More of just a thank you for Nashville and to save the time/effort waiting until Aug 15
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 3:17 PM ET
12 m is ok with me I just want 1 cup

We can suck for the next 40

- GERBE!!!75PTS


I don' tknow about that.

I have no problem if we pay 12M for the next 4 years. But I don't want to pay it for the next 7 years.

I think us resigning Eichel and Reinhart will be VERY hard if we are paying Stamkos 12M and ROR 7.5M.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 21 @ 3:17 PM ET
You guys shouldn't get any more criticism
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:19 PM ET
Kane has personal issue question marks.
- JVince11


yeah, but without him, the hawks don't win the cup, imo...his on-ice contributions, not to mention his conn smythe trophy and 106 point season after singing his mega-deal prove that he has ice in his veins when on the ice...I don' t get that from stammer
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:20 PM ET
I don' tknow about that.

I have no problem if we pay 12M for the next 4 years. But I don't want to pay it for the next 7 years.

I think us resigning Eichel and Reinhart will be VERY hard if we are paying Stamkos 12M and ROR 7.5M.

- JVince11


this X 12m
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 3:20 PM ET
don't take it personal, it happens...btw...

how many 's did you get when you wrote that?

- Michael Pachla

Players are always going to get paid more than what they are worth in free agency.

Difference with Stamkos is you are adding the 2nd best goal scorer of the decade, in his prime and it only costs cap space.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:24 PM ET
Players are always going to get paid more than what they are worth in free agency.

Difference with Stamkos is you are adding the 2nd best goal scorer of the decade, in his prime and it only costs cap space.

- sbroads24


No doubt.

The question is always when does the amount cross the line to the point that we should let others be the ones to pay.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:24 PM ET
this X 12m
- Michael Pachla

will he sign for 4 years? i guess it comes down to his belief of where his points will be in 4 years. will he still demand that top dollar contract or will his play have dropped a little and he gets a lesser contract
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:25 PM ET
don't take it personal, it happens...btw...

how many 's did you get when you wrote that?

- Michael Pachla


More than homie when he said we should trade for Yandle.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:27 PM ET
More than homie when he said we should trade for Yandle.
- Der Kaiser

speaking of Yandle... does this free up Soupy and is he worth it for this team
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 21 @ 3:28 PM ET
The Stamkos at all costs thing has got to go. 12mill a year for 7 is just crazy. How many cups has he won in Tampa, with a really good team????
Not worth it. Get Vesey on board, and spend some money on D.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jun 21 @ 3:28 PM ET
Lots of Q's about Kane's ability to stay out of trouble off the ice.
- Sabre_Tooth


Its interesting that the Hawks requested he stay in Chicago this summer.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 3:28 PM ET
No doubt.

The question is always when does the amount cross the line to the point that we should let others be the ones to pay.

- Der Kaiser

I'd be weary of going above 11-12. But I think it's still worth it.

Even if he only scored 35 goals 70 points, adding him to Eichel + Reinhart on cheap ELC's would be similar to having 3 5mil forwards for at least 2 years.

If Stamkos was 29-30, Id be very, very hesitant

buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jun 21 @ 3:28 PM ET
I don' tknow about that.

I have no problem if we pay 12M for the next 4 years. But I don't want to pay it for the next 7 years.

I think us resigning Eichel and Reinhart will be VERY hard if we are paying Stamkos 12M and ROR 7.5M.

- JVince11


I disagree. Paying your top guys are easy. Not being able to sign or re-sign good role players in that $2-$4M range is the hard part.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 21 @ 3:31 PM ET
Just went on Twitter. The Finnish guy says you're all stupid.

Weird statement and not really sure if it's true. But it's fun to speculate!
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 3:32 PM ET
Something would have to give, if we sign Stamkos.

21.7m under cap now according to Capfriendly.com

Stamkos 12m
Vesey .925m
McCabe 2m
Foligno 2m
Risto 4.5m
Fowler 4m (hypothetically trade girgs and a 3rd for him)
Nelson .9m
Backup goalie 1m

That puts us over the cap by about 5.5m - would have to rid ourselves of two of Gorges, Franson, Moulsen, Ennis, Gionta....

Spottrac has us under the cap by 25.7m, but with a higher league salary cap. We'd still have to rid ourselves of one of the above in this scenario
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