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bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:23 PM ET
I look at it this way, for NEXT season (2017-18):

Reinhart-Eichel-Vesey
Kane-Stamkos-Bailey
Ennis-O'Reilly-Fasching
Foligno-Schaller-Larsson

Is Vesey a top RW? Probably not. Is Bailey a top 6 RW? Maybe not. But this is how I see us copying Pittsburgh this year. You have 3 lines that all have a good center and wingers who can (hopefully by that time) score. If Bailey and Fasching grow like that they will be cheap options.

P.S. don't put too much stock in the order of the lines. If you want Stamkos and ROR's line above Eichel it's still the same thing

- Zschalberg


Veseys a Left Wing.
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 21 @ 4:24 PM ET
I look at it this way, for NEXT season (2017-18):

Reinhart-Eichel-Vesey
Kane-Stamkos-Bailey
Ennis-O'Reilly-Fasching
Foligno-Schaller-Larsson

Is Vesey a top RW? Probably not. Is Bailey a top 6 RW? Maybe not. But this is how I see us copying Pittsburgh this year. You have 3 lines that all have a good center and wingers who can (hopefully by that time) score. If Bailey and Fasching grow like that they will be cheap options.

P.S. don't put too much stock in the order of the lines. If you want Stamkos and ROR's line above Eichel it's still the same thing

- Zschalberg


ROR would definitely deserve more than 3rd line minutes.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:24 PM ET
I look at it this way, for NEXT season (2017-18):

Reinhart-Eichel-Vesey
Kane-Stamkos-Bailey
Ennis-O'Reilly-Fasching
Foligno-Schaller-Larsson

Is Vesey a top RW? Probably not. Is Bailey a top 6 RW? Maybe not. But this is how I see us copying Pittsburgh this year. You have 3 lines that all have a good center and wingers who can (hopefully by that time) score. If Bailey and Fasching grow like that they will be cheap options.

P.S. don't put too much stock in the order of the lines. If you want Stamkos and ROR's line above Eichel it's still the same thing

- Zschalberg


Well he is a LW so you are pretty accurate with that statement
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
I look at it this way, for NEXT season (2017-18):

Reinhart-Eichel-Vesey
Kane-Stamkos-Bailey
Ennis-O'Reilly-Fasching
Foligno-Schaller-Larsson


- Zschalberg


Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Vesey - Eichel - Nylander
Girgensons - Larsson - Bailey/Fasching
D-Lo - Schaller - Bailey/Fasching

I bet is more realistic.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:26 PM ET
Vesey is a LW and Reinhart is a RW.

Girgensons, Moulson, D-Lo... they just chilling somewhere?

- JVince11



Girgs is sitting in LA, Moulson is in the Presser, D-Lo is 13th man
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:26 PM ET
Yeah I think he has one of his boys staying there keeping an eye out but it is a gorgeous house. The wife and I almost bought a house across the street from him a few years back but the commute was too far for my liking.
- Stripes77



This is either GOOOOOOOOD trolling or deplorable humblebrag.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 21 @ 4:27 PM ET
ROR would definitely deserve more than 3rd line minutes.
- Sabre_Tooth


All 3 lines could get equal time. The line thats producing the best that night , gets more time . It changes vs every opponent.
bobmack13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:27 PM ET
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Vesey - Eichel - Nylander
Girgensons - Larsson - Bailey/Fasching
D-Lo - Schaller - Bailey/Fasching

I bet is more realistic.

- JVince11



Can you see them taking Nylander at #8?
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:28 PM ET
Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Vesey - Eichel - Nylander
Girgensons - Larsson - Bailey/Fasching
D-Lo - Schaller - Bailey/Fasching

I bet is more realistic.

- JVince11



The fact that you have nylander penciled in in the top six with no sign of Moulson, gionta or ennis makes this a very unrealistic line up for next season
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:29 PM ET
Can you see them taking Nylander at #8?
- bobmack13


Yes. I think Royce's comments today that all of hte DMen are a year away and then Murray's comments about how they need a top 4 Dman.. top end LH DMan via trade shows that they want an immediate impact instead of one later. DMen take a lot longer to mature and be ready.

I bet Juolevi would be the quickest to make an impact but Chychrun/Sergechev wouldn't even make the club until 2017 and then not play top 4 minutes until 2018.

i think we end up with trading #8 for a Fowler or Shattenkirk.. or we take Nylander or Keller honestly.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:30 PM ET
The fact that you have nylander penciled in in the top six with no sign of Moulson, gionta or ennis makes this a very unrealistic line up for next season
- MCGUIZZY


if you read the original body that I replied to... it was for 2017-2018 my man.

Gionta will be UFA. I'd love ennis to make a presence and be a 3rd line RW. I bet Moulson is bought out if he has another down year like he did this year.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:30 PM ET
Vesey is a LW and Reinhart is a RW.

Girgensons, Moulson, D-Lo... they just chilling somewhere?

- JVince11


Flip em then, I still like it.

Girgensons, IMO, is traded but if not would take Schaller's spot. D-Lo is the odd man out but I'd be okay with him taking Foligno's spot if he can't keep it together. Moulson I either see as a healthy scratch, sent to the minors (1M cap relief), traded (likely retaining salary), or bought out. None of these options are that good but, to me, IF Bailey and Fasching can contribute more (and that's if they progress as hoped) then the money shouldn't mean that he gets the spot over one of them.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:30 PM ET
Vesey is a LW and Reinhart is a RW.

Girgensons, Moulson, D-Lo... they just chilling somewhere?

- JVince11

He did say 2017/2018 season
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:31 PM ET
if you read the original body that I replied to... it was for 2017-2018 my man.
- JVince11



Ah got ya. I guess we can hope Moulson is gone by them
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:31 PM ET
Flip em then, I still like it.

Girgensons, IMO, is traded but if not would take Schaller's spot. D-Lo is the odd man out but I'd be okay with him taking Foligno's spot if he can't keep it together. Moulson I either see as a healthy scratch, sent to the minors (1M cap relief), traded (likely retaining salary), or bought out. None of these options are that good but, to me, IF Bailey and Fasching can contribute more (and that's if they progress as hoped) then the money shouldn't mean that he gets the spot over one of them.

- Zschalberg


D-Lo just signed a 2 year extension yesterday. He will be here in some capacity in 2017 whether it be as #13 or 4th line.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:32 PM ET
This is either GOOOOOOOOD trolling or deplorable humblebrag.
- Der Kaiser



His house is across the street from average family homes to put it lightly.

Also with my job being in Tonawanda at the time there was no way I was taking route 5 that far everyday!
Punch70
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:32 PM ET
Incorrect.
- rmiethaner

My bad, thought that was the case. Guess I have to brush up on the cba.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:33 PM ET
D-Lo just signed a 2 year extension yesterday. He will be here in some capacity in 2017 whether it be as #13 or 4th line.
- JVince11

In that situation I had him as #13. personally I'd put him above Foligno but that's just me and I don't think it actually happens
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:34 PM ET
Depending on where your commute is to, absolutely. Don't forget, I grew up even further south of that in Angola. Even having to commute into Hamburg in the winter can be brutal. I loved growing up there, but at this point in my life, I'm all about convenience. If I ever did have kids though, I'd think about moving out further again though.
- HonkFortheGoose



Yeah it was Tonawanda.

Plus my entire family lives in West Seneca, OP or South Buffalo...

So we decided to move to Florida
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 21 @ 4:36 PM ET
Yeah it was Tonawanda.

Plus my entire family lives in West Seneca, OP or South Buffalo...

So we decided to move to Florida

- Stripes77

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:37 PM ET
D-Lo just signed a 2 year extension yesterday. He will be here in some capacity in 2017 whether it be as #13 or 4th line.
- JVince11


If I were D-Lo, I would offer PK36 $22.00/hr, up to 25 hours a week, through August 15, 2016, to teach me how to kill the penalty. I think he would probably take the gig.

Then I would discard any of the information that had to do with torpedoing himself into the boards, but use the rest of it.

I could see D-Lo having a better chance to get reliable icetime this way, and it would be nice to keep Kaleta off the foodstamps.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:37 PM ET
Presser is on sabres.com
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:37 PM ET
In that situation I had him as #13. personally I'd put him above Foligno but that's just me and I don't think it actually happens
- Zschalberg


I don't think Foligno has played to a level that his RFA gets another raise above the 2.25M he makes now. He is already the 2nd highest paid RFA at LW this off-season.

I think he gets punted in a trade.

Trade #8, Foligno's rights, and a 3rd to ANA for Fowler, Pirri, and #24 (maybe)

Take DeBrincat at #24. Juniors 2-time 50 goal scorer.

Have a 3rd line scorer in Pirri now who is an RFA as well.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:38 PM ET
ROR would definitely deserve more than 3rd line minutes.
- Sabre_Tooth

Look at Pittsburgh's 3rd line this year. Kessel led them in scoring in the playoffs and got plenty of ice time. Last 3 games:

Kessel: 15:18, 19:11, 16:14
Crosby: 21:03, 20:57, 19:41

Like I said, you want to move ROR's line to 2nd and Jack's to 3rd and Stamkos up, whatever. Point being, 3 scoring lines each centered by a good player with complementary wingers on the sides.

EDIT: Unless that was the 2nd line technically and Malkin was on the 3rd? Either way it works lol
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago
It should come as no surprise if Goligoski takes himself out of UFA and signs a five-year deal with the Coyotes in near future.

Ruh roh shaggy.
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