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Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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Jun 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
Was he laughing in it
- SabresFaninIndiana





No

GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:41 PM ET
Go listen to the Sean Malone interview on WGR.

Vesey sent him a snap chat when the Sabres traded for his rights.

You don't do that if you're not excited.

- Stripes77


You know me I get worried all the time...

I am not worried at all about getting him signed they have a bromance
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:41 PM ET


No

- Stripes77



Was it this?


Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:41 PM ET
Nash costs you a first round pick plus
Perry cost you 8 plus Reinhart +
Hoffman is not available.

So you saved cap space but made the team weaker, so good job I guess?
12 - 7.2 is 5
12 - 8.7 is 3

So at most you are saving is 5MM and making the team weaker in the process.

PS Last year
Perry - .76PPG
Stamkos - .83PPG
Nash - .6 PPG

- ImThatGuy


No way those players will cost you that much. Everyone is trying to move salary. As several commentators have said recently, teams are trying to move salary and there are a lot of players available right now. I bet Nash could be had for our second and a prospect.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
Was it this?



- dadeadhead



HAHAHA

Actually he said he wasn't sure cause he knows Eichel isn't the best in the D zone...too one dimensional
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:43 PM ET
Go listen to the Sean Malone interview on WGR.

Vesey sent him a snap chat when the Sabres traded for his rights.

You don't do that if you're not excited.

- Stripes77


You could be reading too much into it, but I hope you're right.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:44 PM ET
As if I am not glutton for more punishment today....

Seeing as Ennis (health) and Moulson (suckiness) have no trade value, unless we can move Gus for Fowler I would actually like to see the three of them play for a while on the third line. I still think Gus is the ideal 3rd line center on a good team and I still think Ennis can be a stud.
Deuce81
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.11.2016

Jun 22 @ 12:44 PM ET
HAHAHA

Actually he said he wasn't sure cause he knows Eichel isn't the best in the D zone...too one dimensional

- Stripes77


The wise one, Nazem Kadri, called him out for this. We should probably trade him. He will be expensive in a few years, and it may hamper our plans.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:45 PM ET
No way those players will cost you that much. Everyone is trying to move salary. As several commentators have said recently, teams are trying to move salary and there are a lot of players available right now. I bet Nash could be had for our second and a prospect.
- Slump Buster



For him to come in and put up 40 points.

He is a player where his best days are behind him. Maybe and it's a strong maybe if you move Moulson I could get on board.


Perry will cost you #8, a player you don't want to move, another player you don't wanna move, and other parts. 8.7 for the next 5 yrs and is 31

Hoffman is off the table IMO now and he's not half the player Stamkos is.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 22 @ 12:45 PM ET
One of the coping mechanisms that people seem to be leaning towards in anticipation of Stamkos not signing here is to point out how far the Lightning got in the playoffs without him. People also forgot that of the four Conference Finalists, the Lightning had the easiest road by a mile and then some to get there. First, they had to play a Detroit team that barely made the playoffs, and then they had to play the Islanders in the 2nd round, as opposed to Pittsburgh who drew the league leading Capitals. Even if you factor in the Rangers, who weren't the most dominant of opponents, I doubt Tampa gets through there without Stamkos. That doesn't even begin to answer the question of whether or not the Lightning would have got such an easy draw without Stamkos in the lineup for most of the season. The answer is probably no. He is absolutely that much of a difference maker.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:46 PM ET
The wise one, Nazem Kadri, called him out for this. We should probably trade him. He will be expensive in a few years, and it may hamper our plans.
- Deuce81


And would those plans to be to wallow in mediocrity for another 40+ years?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:46 PM ET
Was it this?



- dadeadhead

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...post_id=16373956#16373956

I expect to get banned for this
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:46 PM ET
No way those players will cost you that much. Everyone is trying to move salary. As several commentators have said recently, teams are trying to move salary and there are a lot of players available right now. I bet Nash could be had for our second and a prospect.
- Slump Buster


IN a vacuum with one team trading for them sure. But you are competing with at least 10 teams to trade for any of those guys, thus bumping the price up more and more.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
For him to come in and put up 40 points.

He is a player where his best days are behind him. Maybe and it's a strong maybe if you move Moulson I could get on board.


Perry will cost you #8, a player you don't want to move, another player you don't wanna move, and other parts. 8.7 for the next 5 yrs and is 31

Hoffman is off the table IMO now and he's not half the player Stamkos is.

- dadeadhead


Perry also has a NMC as far as I know (too lazy to actually look it up) so there's no guarantee that even if you threw everything and the kitchen sink at Anaheim for him that he'd agree to it.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=136215&post_id=16373956#16373956

I expect to get banned for this

- homiedclown



Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 22 @ 12:48 PM ET
One of the coping mechanisms that people seem to be leaning towards in anticipation of Stamkos not signing here is to point out how far the Lightning got in the playoffs without him. People also forgot that of the four Conference Finalists, the Lightning had the easiest road by a mile and then some to get there. First, they had to play a Detroit team that barely made the playoffs, and then they had to play the Islanders in the 2nd round, as opposed to Pittsburgh who drew the league leading Capitals. Even if you factor in the Rangers, who weren't the most dominant of opponents, I doubt Tampa gets through there without Stamkos. That doesn't even begin to answer the question of whether or not the Lightning would have got such an easy draw without Stamkos in the lineup for most of the season. The answer is probably no. He is absolutely that much of a difference maker.
- buffalofan19



This is a great logical post.

Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 22 @ 12:49 PM ET
IN a vacuum with one team trading for them sure. But you are competing with at least 10 teams to trade for any of those guys, thus bumping the price up more and more.
- ImThatGuy


Who has the cap space to get those guys? Most teams are either pretty tight or not ready to bring on vets.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:49 PM ET
Perry also has a NMC as far as I know (too lazy to actually look it up) so there's no guarantee that even if you threw everything and the kitchen sink at Anaheim for him that he'd agree to it.
- HonkFortheGoose



Perry NMC
Nash NTC can provide a list of 12 teams he'd ok a trade to
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 22 @ 12:49 PM ET

- dadeadhead

my guess is 3 days
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
This is a great logical post.
- Stripes77



But he only scores 40..........
Deuce81
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.11.2016

Jun 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
And would those plans to be to wallow in mediocrity for another 40+ years?
- HonkFortheGoose


Well yeah, but think of all the millions we could save!!
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:51 PM ET
But he only scores 40..........
- dadeadhead


Thanks, this hasn't been posted over and over again. 40 is the new 60.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:52 PM ET
Perry NMC
Nash NTC can provide a list of 12 teams he'd ok a trade to

- dadeadhead


I think at this point they'd both welcome a change of scenery. And TM has a relationship with Perry.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:53 PM ET
Who has the cap space to get those guys? Most teams are either pretty tight or not ready to bring on vets.
- Slump Buster

3/4 of the league has 10+MM in cap space. So 22 teams.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 12:54 PM ET
I think at this point they'd both welcome a change of scenery. And TM has a relationship with Perry.
- Slump Buster


Why is Anaheim trading Perry again? They have $15MM+ in cap space.

I'm curious to what you think it would take to trade for Perry.
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