They do?
- Sabresfan-365

Career wise PPG is pretty close i think is what he meant

Do we want Rick Nash?
- bobmack13

For a 2nd or 3rd with the Rangers eating half of his celery

To be fair, it was to hot to be in shorts and a polo as well
- markyjoe

And I work out in this crap all day, I know the feeling. Traffic sucked also, Harmon and Paradise is to crowded.

Career wise PPG is pretty close i think is what he meant
- Havic3814

Yeah, I was referring to PPG. Didn't do much more in-depth analysis. Did I overlook something?

He could come back and have a career year or could come back and never be the same because of the concussion. Do you get something for him now not knowing which Ennis is coming back or roll the dice and hope he hasn't lost a step?

I see it this way, he is not a TM pick or style of player (smaller in size) and Hoffman is a TM pick and (a little bit) larger than Ennis.
- adambuffalo

I never said I wouldn't do the trade, just that I don't think Ennis was as bad as has been said. I doubt you even get Hoffman for Ennis just because his value is so low for the reasons you just stated. He can come back and be great or be Connolly all over again.

For a 2nd or 3rd with the Rangers eating half of his celery
- Stripes77

Fasching and a 2nd for Nash and a 5th ( a rumor I saw, don't come down on me).

Oh yea, Erik Karlsson is a really snappy dresser.

Fasching and a 2nd for Nash and a 5th ( a rumor I saw, don't come down on me).
- bobmack13

Please no.

Please no.
- ImThatGuy

I'm thinking that Murray wouldn't bail on Fasching already, but who knows.

Fasching and a 2nd for Nash and a 5th ( a rumor I saw, don't come down on me).
- bobmack13

Nope. Expansion draft coming that doesn't make sense.

I never said I wouldn't do the trade, just that I don't think Ennis was as bad as has been said. I doubt you even get Hoffman for Ennis just because his value is so low for the reasons you just stated. He can come back and be great or be Connolly all over again.
- Zschalberg

I agree, I would do the trade but I also think Ennis is better than what he showed last year ex: the previous 5 years.

Fasching and a 2nd for Nash and a 5th ( a rumor I saw, don't come down on me).
- bobmack13

I'd honestly rip my Sabres tattoo off. Trade one of our best forward prospects AND a quality pick for a washed up has been who has mailed it in completely and makes 8 Million for only 2 years. I'd throw myself off the harborcenter in hopes of landing on TM.

And I work out in this crap all day, I know the feeling. Traffic sucked also, Harmon and Paradise is to crowded.
- SABRES 89

I work outside now too. I pack 6-8 bottles of water and 1-2 gatorades with my lunch cooler.

I don't have to work until 10, so traffic usually clears up before I go, plus I don't work near the strip, unless I have a delivery there.

Yeah, I was referring to PPG. Didn't do much more in-depth analysis. Did I overlook something?
- Phatjohnsn

No unless people were just basing stats on last year. Hoffman was only in his 2nd full year last season. So i guess maybe people might think he could still raise his game a little bit more.

And while i agree with you that Ennis doesn't have to play Center i think his preferred wing is on the right... we really do need a LW

Fasching and a 2nd for Nash and a 5th ( a rumor I saw, don't come down on me).
- bobmack13

Guy had 36 points last year. Tied for 191st in the league. I would give just the 5th for him. Highest I'd go is a 3rd and I don't want to do that until Stamkos has already signed somewhere. I don't need to help them clear cap for him.

I work outside now too. I pack 6-8 bottles of water and 1-2 gatorades with my lunch cooler.

I don't have to work until 10, so traffic usually clears up before I go, plus I don't work near the strip, unless I have a delivery there.
- markyjoe

I start at 5 in the morning but i'm on the strip, airport tunnel traffic sucks.

I work outside now too. I pack 6-8 bottles of water and 1-2 gatorades with my lunch cooler.

I don't have to work until 10, so traffic usually clears up before I go, plus I don't work near the strip, unless I have a delivery there.
- markyjoe

I was stationed at Nellis and worked on the flight line for 4 years before moving back to Buffalo. I loved it. The hotter the better. Phoenix for 4 years before Vegas too.

Guy had 36 points last year. Tied for 191st in the league. I would give just the 5th for him. Highest I'd go is a 3rd and I don't want to do that until Stamkos has already signed somewhere. I don't need to help them clear cap for him.
- Zschalberg

Goes against everything Murray believes in. Won't happen.

Completely unrelated, they think that they caught the "Disney Alligator", really???
He's green, 4 legs, long snout, lots of teeth, between 4-10 feet long. Yeah, we think we got the guy!!!!

No unless people were just basing stats on last year. Hoffman was only in his 2nd full year last season. So i guess maybe people might think he could still raise his game a little bit more.

And while i agree with you that Ennis doesn't have to play Center i think his preferred wing is on the right... we really do need a LW
- Havic3814

Yes, I also agree on that. I was more reacting to a few people who seemed really excited and was curious if I was left out on some huge piece of info about Hoffman that makes him special.

Personally, doubt he raises his game much if at all. He is 26 already. Doesn't mean he isn't good but I'm not sure if I'm willing to go more than Ennis + conditional (or something like that) just to change wing and have a different name in the lineup.

Yes, I also agree on that. I was more reacting to a few people who seemed really excited and was curious if I was left out on some huge piece of info about Hoffman that makes him special.

Personally, doubt he raises his game much if at all. He is 26 already. Doesn't mean he isn't good but I'm not sure if I'm willing to go more than Ennis + conditional (or something like that) just to change wing and have a different name in the lineup.
- Phatjohnsn

Too old. I don't want ANYONE that old

I was stationed at Nellis and worked on the flight line for 4 years before moving back to Buffalo. I loved it. The hotter the better. Phoenix for 4 years before Vegas too.
- adambuffalo

I prefer this over WNY weather, for sure. I've worked outside back east as well, and working outside in 115 degrees is still better than outside with a negative windchill.

But hot is still hot.

P.s thank you for your service as well

What would it take to pull Lindholm out of Anaheim???

For a 2nd or 3rd with the Rangers eating half of his celery
- Stripes77

NYR aren't allowed to eat half his salary - these damn rules. You obviously don't trade for Nash now because:

1. It takes BUF out of the Stamkos games
2. It puts NYR in the Stamkos games

Too old. I don't want ANYONE that old
- Zschalberg

LOL ... I actually can't believe I just did that given I'm about to hit the big 3-0