I think we'd have to do more
- sbroads24

Foligno/Larsson?

the only way pick 8 is in play is part of a package of hall


Looks like pk may go there so hall would not be moved
- homiedclown

The faulk one would've been good.

Another source said Tim Murray and Anaheim GM Bob Murray are expected to talk again here Friday morning.

In other news from Tim Murray:

---The GM met with Jimmy Vesey's agents Friday morning and will return to speak to their client about negotiating with the Sabres after Buffalo acquired the rights to the Hobey Baker winner on Monday. "They are going to relay the message we gave them to Jimmy," Tim Murray said. "I think we'll go there or try to get Jimmy in here and see exactly where they are."

---The Sabres will start the process of interviewing free agents and speaking to their agents here Saturday when NHL rules permit the discussions. And that will almost certainly include representatives for Tampa Bay captain Steven Stamkos.

"The agents are in the building. Between picks I can take a stroll over to a potential free agent's agent and say, 'Is there any reason for us to talk or not talk?''' Murray said. "If they don't want to come to Buffalo they're not going to say, 'Yeah, let's have a talk.' We don't want our time wasted and they don't want to waste theirs. If a guy legitimately want to come here, I think we'll hear and we'll get an interview."

---Murray said coaches and GMs met on challenges and some confusion continues on goalie interference. But the process on offsides may be streamlined next season.

"It's going to the league," he said. "By the time the play stops, they'll bring the linesmen to the bench and say offside or not offside. The linesmen aren't going to have to review it. Ninety percent of the time it will be done by the time the linesmen go over to the bench."

this is from mike harrington, of the buffalo news

the only way pick 8 is in play is part of a package of hall


Looks like pk may go there so hall would not be moved
- homiedclown

They want Risto + for Hall and that is a non starting point

if you draft a d man at 8 it'll be a few years before you see him but if you traded it for Hoff, he'll be in the top 6 immediately.
- mhp

Absolutely not forr a the dimensional player. Why not just sign Stamkos and Vesey for free and there's your top 6. And serg at #8 may not be that far away

Cam Fowler is not a huge upgrade over what we have, Shattenkirk is.
- SABRES 89

Absolutely correct 89

If we land Stammer and Hoffman, Vesey is a Leaf or Bruin, and we lose a third and nobody in Buffalo cares.
- LandlordTom

I care, Vesey will be a better all around player than Hoffman

They want Risto + for Hall and that is a non starting point
- SABRES 89

Good

Absolutely correct 89
- turbo044

I don't know why he's so locked onto Fowler, the object is to get better and Shattenkirk does that.

I don't know why he's so locked onto Fowler, the object is to get better and Shattenkirk does that.
- SABRES 89

I do. It's Tim Murray. He's probably been obsessed over him

You're not even the one I was having this discussion with but since you butted in. Fowler is an above average player and considering we had Josh (frank)ing Gorges playing with Risto last year Cam Fowler is a huge improvement
- bluengold12

yes Fowler is better than Gorges, sorry for responding to your post

If we do get Fowler and not give up 8 for it... I can't wait till everyone realizes they were wrong about Fowler...

Will be just as sweet as when people were wrong about O'Riley on here and Reinhart.

I don't know why he's so locked onto Fowler, the object is to get better and Shattenkirk does that.
- SABRES 89

Correct again. I'd have no problem sending #8+ for Shattenkirk. If #8 goes for Fowler I'll be pissed

you have a problem with Bogo and i'm not going to get into that with another 15 pages of that crap. both last season

Bogo 64 games 7 goals 17 assists

Fowler 69 games 5 goals 23 assists.

I'll hang up and listen as to how much better Fowler is then Bogo.
- SABRES 89

Relative Corsi
Bogo -1.7
Fowler -4.6

I'm betting... and( I'm not going to like it) but I bet it's

8th overall for Fowler plus pick 30. I'm not going to like it even though I do want Fowler. Because I don't think that's a fair deal for Buffalo. But it's the deal I see happening based off what I'm reading from Harrington etc.

Hope I'm wrong on the parts but not the player.

Relative Corsi
Bogo -1.7
Fowler -4.6
- mattmoulson

Corsi is like the kid who puts a gold star on top of his crappy project. It doesn't mean anything

If we do get Fowler and not give up 8 for it... I can't wait till everyone realizes they were wrong about Fowler...

Will be just as sweet as when people were wrong about O'Riley on here and Reinhart.
- bluengold12

O'Reilly came with a reputation of being a great two way forward who does all the little things well but as east coast fans we never really got a chance to see. Fowler does not carry that same reputation. If anything it sounds like the opposite. A few flashy plays covering up for a plethora of defensive errors and mental mistakes.

Corsi is like the kid who puts a gold star on top of his crappy project. It doesn't mean anything
- bluengold12

Agreed, but the rest of his advanced stats dont look great either, that means something.

The talk about pornhub earlier got me thinking. So I looked it up. An estimated 1.156% of the entire global internet user base visits pornhub. It's the 55th largest site in the US and 63rd globally. CNN.com only gets .972% of global users, but is ranked 24th in the US. That's a lot of porn.

Relative Corsi
Bogo -1.7
Fowler -4.6
- mattmoulson

Call me stupid or whatever you want. But what do these numbers mean? Is it like golf. The lower number is better?

Call me stupid or whatever you want. But what do these numbers mean? Is it like golf. The lower number is better?
- SabresFaninIndiana

Lower is bad. Bogo's number is better. But relative Corsi is based off your teammates. Anaheim has a lot of very good defensemen, Buffalo does not, so it makes sense that Bogo's relative Corsi is higher.

I'm betting... and( I'm not going to like it) but I bet it's

8th overall for Fowler plus pick 30. I'm not going to like it even though I do want Fowler. Because I don't think that's a fair deal for Buffalo. But it's the deal I see happening based off what I'm reading from Harrington etc.

Hope I'm wrong on the parts but not the player.
- bluengold12

I could live with #8 for Fowler and #24, anything else makes me want to puke.

Pickles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Welcome back
- cabin

Hey Cab!

I'm on Central time now... we shall see if I can get on more regularly again. Tomorrow should be fun.

8 and Girgensons for Fowler and What....

Just tool a look at the Laffs thread. They seem to hate the idea of getting Subban if it were possible. One guy said he hopes if he were moved it was to a team he hated, like us.

I used to at least respect the views of Canadian folks but this is just and

F the Laffs