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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
41.1 K followers host of some radios show in Edmonton and also writes for the Edmonton Journal. I just saw him today but he seems like he knows the landscape of the NHL. Hope he's wrong but more and more legit journalists are saying 8 for Fowler with other pieces involved for both is very realistic and plausible...
- bluengold12


AS long as one of those other pieces is Brandon Montour I'd be ok with that. 57 points with SD last year.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:16 AM ET
The other trade,murray wants hoffman,the sabres would love to trade ennis straight up,ottawa not biting
- Buffalo39

....its almost like you read the message board, saw what we were talking about, and are spinning it as a rumor. Its almost like that.
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:16 AM ET
I can't sleep and am 50/50 to call off and just stare at my laptop/phone all day
- sbroads24[/
If the Lightning fail to re-sign Stamkos, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman speculates they could trade him before July 1. A club acquiring his rights can re-sign him to an eight-year deal before his UFA eligibility, rather than the maximum seven-years if they sign him as a free agent. That extra year
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
No you have to have the player for so long in order to do that. That is why O'Reilly deal was only 7 years.
- Mentalorgasm5


Thanks
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
The sabres are not trading the 8th for fowler. They want him bad. I heard earlier it is girgensons and pysyk or a 3rd for fowler
- Buffalo39

I never said the 8th pick, deal I heard was Girgensons for Fowler, I'm sure there is more to it but that's what I was told
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
AS long as one of those other pieces is Brandon Montour I'd be ok with that. 57 points with SD last year.
- Wetbandit1

That is funny,a guy i was with said ennis and 8th for montour and fowler.i laughed and he said watch
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
The other trade,murray wants hoffman,the sabres would love to trade ennis straight up,ottawa not biting
- Buffalo39


Now you're just screwing with me aren't you?
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
He cannot sign an 8 year deal if we trade for him
- Mentalorgasm5


Then there goes that theory.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
[quote=sbroads24]I can't sleep and am 50/50 to call off and just stare at my laptop/phone all day
- Buffalo39[/
If the Lightning fail to re-sign Stamkos, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman speculates they could trade him before July 1. A club acquiring his rights can re-sign him to an eight-year deal before his UFA eligibility, rather than the maximum seven-years if they sign him as a free agent. That extra year

Once again, only Tampa can sign him to an 8 year deal.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
Gives him 12M more on the contract is my guess. 8x12 is better than 7x12, as I don't think he will be getting a 12M/yr deal 7 years from now.
- BigStew


No, no one can sign Stamkos to 8 years other than TB even if they trade his rights. Player has to play a certain number of games with a team to get the 8th year.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
What happens when they miss out? And who's the other d-man?
- Sabresfan-365


Severe disappointment for 90% of this board. The other 10% will be pleased.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
Those were all great trades for the team. Wouldn't take back ANY of them. So what's the issue with Murray again?
- fastek


Wait... I don't have an issue with Murray, and I agree with the trades and even still it is too early to properly judge those trades. My point was that there are some people who think he gave up a lot of assets to make those trades happen, and because of that, Murray may be more than willing to trade #8 for Fowler which most people here (including myself) don't want to see happen.
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
No, no one can sign Stamkos to 8 years other than TB even if they trade his rights. Player has to play a certain number of games with a team to get the 8th year.
- Wetbandit1


If the Lightning fail to re-sign Stamkos, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman speculates they could trade him before July 1. A club acquiring his rights can re-sign him to an eight-year deal before his UFA eligibility, rather than the maximum seven-years if they sign him as a free agent. That extra year
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
I never said the 8th pick, deal I heard was Girgensons for Fowler, I'm sure there is more to it but that's what I was told
- SABRES 89


Do you know who the other d-man is?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:19 AM ET
How many years can we sign LeBron for?
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jun 24 @ 12:20 AM ET
I am not blowing smoke. Barring a big trade they want to keep the 8th pick and it is between nylander and brown. They want to get rid of girgensons,ennis and pysyk. They bring in stamkos,fowler still leaves them with some money
- Buffalo39


This sounds like a poll taken in a crowded drunken late night watering hole.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:20 AM ET
What happens when they miss out? And who's the other d-man?
- Sabresfan-365

You being Canadian is why you think they will miss out, for some reason Murray still likes Barrie and I don't know why
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:20 AM ET
Now you're just screwing with me aren't you?
- Sabresfan-365

Murray loves hoffman,ottawa doesnt want ennis .thats what the sabres offered. Ok mentalmidgetorgasm i am reading what people write. Maybe one day i will invite you over and see the stanley cup locker rooms i have been in. Or the hall of fame private parties i have been to.thats if you ever leave your moms basement and put down the atari
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:20 AM ET
Wait... I don't have an issue with Murray, and I agree with the trades and even still it is too early to properly judge those trades. My point was that there are some people who think he gave up a lot of assets to make those trades happen, and because of that, Murray may be more than willing to trade #8 for Fowler which most people here (including myself) don't want to see happen.
- sskkoo1

He did give up a lot of assets. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Whether they pan out or not is another story.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:21 AM ET
Murray loves hoffman,ottawa doesnt want ennis .thats what the sabres offered. Ok mentalmidgetorgasm i am reading what people write. Maybe one day i will invite you over and see the stanley cup locker rooms i have been in. Or the hall of fame private parties i have been to
- Buffalo39

Dude I am not going to your basement, no matter how nicely you ask me.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:21 AM ET
That's great... I would love for them to keep the pick because there's just something about not having a pick when you're hosting the party that just feels wrong. If we traded it for a true #2 that would be totally understandable, but I want to see us selecting somewhere in round 1 tomorrow. But, I do like Nylander, first I've heard of interest in Brown though.
- sskkoo1


I would be happy with one of the Finn, Russian or Nylander. Not sure about Brown. Don;t we have like 9 centers already?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:22 AM ET
You being Canadian is why you think they will miss out, for some reason Murray still likes Barrie and I don't know why
- SABRES 89



Thats what they tell me this side of the bridge. "He's coming home" from downtown folk. Any word on the ask? it gives you a lot of guys needing protection from expansion, have to think a roster player would be going the other way.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:22 AM ET
Murray loves hoffman,ottawa doesnt want ennis .thats what the sabres offered. Ok mentalmidgetorgasm i am reading what people write. Maybe one day i will invite you over and see the stanley cup locker rooms i have been in. Or the hall of fame private parties i have been to.thats if you ever leave your moms basement and put down the atari
- Buffalo39


Any chance we can force them to do it? ...Please?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:23 AM ET
I would be happy with one of the Finn, Russian or Nylander. Not sure about Brown. Don;t we have like 9 centers already?
- SabreWest

Ott
Eichel
O'Reilly
Ott
Girgensons
Ott
Larsson
Schaller
Reinhart

Yup 9
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:23 AM ET
Murray loves hoffman,ottawa doesnt want ennis .thats what the sabres offered. Ok mentalmidgetorgasm i am reading what people write. Maybe one day i will invite you over and see the stanley cup locker rooms i have been in. Or the hall of fame private parties i have been to.thats if you ever leave your moms basement and put down the atari
- Buffalo39

I mentioned that he likes Hoffman a while back but that was before uncle Brian stepped down and they switched coaches, haven't heard much since.
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