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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
I like how you're polite when you lie......
- Havic3814


I speak in a language they understand
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
Why worry about Toronto? we have first pick...You really think Anyone in Toronto cares about what you guys do?

ALSO Stampkos Will never sign in buffalo..could be 24 MIL a year, Nobody wants to live there..including peope who live there

- SteelmanTO



Love that age old quote. Even though it couldn't be further from the truth
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
Nothing to worry about here he will be signed


all we have to worry about is stamkos

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Agreed. I just don't see the point of Toronto fans coming on here to chit talk. They're getting Matthews today, can't they just be happy about their team for one friggin day without having to go on other people's boards and acting smug.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
Source?
- 1979AD


An easy google/twitter search will produce this fact
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
Source?
- 1979AD



The GM of the Sabres said it in his presser
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
Don't you already have his rights, and thus are able to sign him BEFORE July 1st? Or is July 1st irrelevant, and Aug 15th when he becomes a free agent.
I must have read 6 different contradicting versions of this by now, and I still have no clue which explanation to believe.

- oldstyle

From the GM's mouth we cannot sign him until the 1st. I don't know the CBA enough to explain it to you but that's as good of a source as I can get for you. Secondly, Vesey has just come to town today or yesterday I believe. He said he would talk to the Sabres on draft weekend. So we have until August 15th. We'll know in a week or two if we've got him or not.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
I forgot he's Russian so that deal is not gonna happen good thing
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
Love that age old quote. Even though it couldn't be further from the truth
- Stripes77



You couldn't pay me enough to live in or around Toronto... regardless of canadian tax rate. frank that noise twice where you should and thrice where you shouldn't
ChicmjBuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
Vesey is no Sabres property, his RIGHTS are. The trade allowed the Sabres to talk with him from the day of the trade. The Sabres and Vesey can come to an agreement in principal, but cannot announce the deal until July 1, the first day of free agency. The Sabres, by having his rights, the ability to have exclusive talks with him until August 15th. At that point, he still becomes a free agent. He will be able to talk to the other 29 teams, but he could still sign with Buffalo, he could even still sign with Nashville (completely unlikely, but not impossible).

Oh, and don't forget, if GMTM doesn't feel the discussions are going well, he can still trade the rights again to another team any time between now and August 15th.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
Source?
- 1979AD

http://media.wgr550.com/t...raft-press-conference.htm


I think it's this one
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
The local justice system is also excited for the all the overtime that Toronto brings them. Canadians love our jails.
- Khmylev



It doesn't seem to take much to get thrown into an American jail.

Officer: "what's your name"
Me: " um why"

Immediately cuffed, and transported to jail.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
Why ? I'm not liking these names Murray's after tbh he's a very inconsistent d
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Could just be posturing to show ANA that we can go elsewhere so they drive down their price a little bit.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:59 AM ET
Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva 13m13 minutes ago
The NHL is looking at a complain of tampering after what #canucks Jim Benning said yesterday regarding Steven Stamkos and PK Subban.

This is exactly why everyone from the Sabres shut their (frank)ing mouth

- TheSabresTaco



What did he say exactly?
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
Source?
- 1979AD


Tim Murray stated so in his presser with WGR soon after acquiring Vesey's rights, so I'll take our GM's word for it over people who have no connection to the hockey world. As for the true source, I'm sure it's in the CBA somewhere as to why he can't be signed until July 1st, I'm not about to spend half the day looking it up though.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
Source?
- 1979AD


Our GM said it LIVE in a teleconference. July 1st to Aug 15th is when we can START the recruiting process with him personally. His agent can talk to us now.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
Agreed. I just don't see the point of Toronto fans coming on here to chit talk. They're getting Matthews today, can't they just be happy about their team for one friggin day without having to go on other people's boards and acting smug.
- sskkoo1



I think Buff has a good team, can't see them not making the playoffs this year.

IMO



Is that better
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
It doesn't seem to take much to get thrown into an American jail.

Officer: "what's your name"
Me: " um why"

Immediately cuffed, and transported to jail.

- Garnie


h
Having an Ontario license plate is reason enough. they are here to protect and serve, us.
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jun 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
Craig Morgan ‏@craigsmorgan 6m6 minutes ago
Hearing that St. Louis Blues defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk is no longer a primary target for the Coyotes. They've turned attention elsewhere.

Sounds like the price is pretty high.

I'd do #8 for Shats straight up though.

- JVince11


If you can you should. Makes more sense him going to Buff than TO... you guys are at least a year or two closer to being competitive.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
Why worry about Toronto? we have first pick...You really think Anyone in Toronto cares about what you guys do?

ALSO Stampkos Will never sign in buffalo..could be 24 MIL a year, Nobody wants to live there..including peope who live there


- SteelmanTO


I think it's nice here, Toronto is little too big for a simpleton like myself.

And to answer your first question, I bet no one in Toronto cares about what happens here. But I guarantee that if Toronto pops up in a Sabres blog SteelmanTO cares enough to post
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
Are a big part of the reason the Buffalo Bills still exist.
- 1979AD


so Buffalo "sucks' yet you guys still flock down here in droves to spend money on our teams and in our malls? Seems like a legit arguement.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
Source?
- 1979AD

Under NHL rules, the Sabres are allowed to open contract negotiations, but can’t sign Vesey until July 1.


https://www.washingtonpos...2-1df55f0c77ff_story.html
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:01 PM ET
You couldn't pay me enough to live in or around Toronto... regardless of canadian tax rate. frank that noise twice where you should and thrice where you shouldn't
- Havic3814


Why is that?

Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:02 PM ET
Why worry about Toronto? we have first pick...You really think Anyone in Toronto cares about what you guys do?

ALSO Stampkos Will never sign in buffalo..could be 24 MIL a year, Nobody wants to live there..including peope who live there


- SteelmanTO

Toronto,yes i want to live there. Keep letting all the rift raft from all those muslim countries in. Canada what a great place to live 50% tax,you wait months to see a doctor and the leafs are a joke
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:02 PM ET
Vesey is no Sabres property, his RIGHTS are. The trade allowed the Sabres to talk with him from the day of the trade. The Sabres and Vesey can come to an agreement in principal, but cannot announce the deal until July 1, the first day of free agency. The Sabres, by having his rights, the ability to have exclusive talks with him until August 15th. At that point, he still becomes a free agent. He will be able to talk to the other 29 teams, but he could still sign with Buffalo, he could even still sign with Nashville (completely unlikely, but not impossible).

Oh, and don't forget, if GMTM doesn't feel the discussions are going well, he can still trade the rights again to another team any time between now and August 15th.

- ChicmjBuffalo


Good explanation
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:02 PM ET
Why worry about Toronto? we have first pick...You really think Anyone in Toronto cares about what you guys do?

ALSO Stampkos Will never sign in buffalo..could be 24 MIL a year, Nobody wants to live there..including peope who live there


- SteelmanTO


Wanna bet? Got big pockets much???
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