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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Yak seems like the exact opposite of what Hexy would want - PhillySportsGuy
Charlie from BSH was tweeting that Bunnaman has more primary ES points/60 than McLeod. Just under Nylander. Maybe there's a bit more to him than his profile indicates.....silver linings ? |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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We have enough 200 ft grit though this draft, can we mix it up? Maybe 100 ft grit? |
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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: A medical emergency involving you. Joined: 08.05.2013
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Charlie from BSH was tweeting that Bunnaman has more primary ES points/60 than McLeod. Just under Nylander. Maybe there's a bit more to him than his profile indicates.....silver linings ? - Mononoke
plus his name is fun to say |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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Charlie from BSH was tweeting that Bunnaman has more primary ES points/60 than McLeod. Just under Nylander. Maybe there's a bit more to him than his profile indicates.....silver linings ? - Mononoke
Actually a pretty good indicator |
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Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Kind of confused why we traded a 4th this year for a 4th next year....is that good value? It may or may not be a better draft, but by the 4th round, it's a crapshoot. Feel like we could've gotten a 6th this year or something too. |
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Charlie from BSH was tweeting that Bunnaman has more primary ES points/60 than McLeod. Just under Nylander. Maybe there's a bit more to him than his profile indicates.....silver linings ? - Mononoke
That makes me feel better. |
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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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Meh. I can just as easily ask how many 5'7" players manage to get projected as high as he did? Two way street. Flyers had three picks and they choose to take the big gamble on a goalie instead of a skill forward. I don't think goalie was that huge of a need for us right now to burn a 2nd on. - hereticpride
Either you trust your board, or you don't
I don't know enough to agree or disagree on these players, but for the most part, these are the same people who picked Ghost and Lindberg
Stolarz is developing, but it sounds like they could lose him via expansion draft. Taking a gamble on a projectable goalie...we can disagree. But at some point, we have to acknowledge that second-rounders have about a 1 in 3 chance of making it anyway, and if the Flyers thought the goalie was the right call, have some faith that it works the way it could
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hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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I would rather dive into UFA. - roenick97
Fair enough. I don't want Yak either but I could sort of see them justifying the move if they made it.
This is a weird draft. Seems like they have system depth more in mind than anything. Nothing wrong with that. I just think we're all used to seeing forwards picked with the immediate future in mind. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Kind of confused why we traded a 4th this year for a 4th next year....is that good value? It may or may not be a better draft, but by the 4th round, it's a crapshoot. Feel like we could've gotten a 6th this year or something too. - Mononoke
I am wondering if there is something else involved. Otherwise is just seems like, meh we couldn't be bothered with this years 4th because we want to go get some Starbucks..... |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Back to back Sambrook and Clarke -- d I liked late |
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What grade does everyone give them for the draft this year? |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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What grade does everyone give them for the draft this year? - coffee junkie
so far a B/B-
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hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Kind of confused why we traded a 4th this year for a 4th next year....is that good value? It may or may not be a better draft, but by the 4th round, it's a crapshoot. Feel like we could've gotten a 6th this year or something too. - Mononoke
What team was the trade with? Maybe they're banking on that team sucking next year? Even then, yeah gotta get a 6th or something. Strange move. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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What team was the trade with? Maybe they're banking on that team sucking next year? Even then, yeah gotta get a 6th or something. Strange move. - hereticpride
It was the Islanders I think....not like it'll be a high pick. |
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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What grade does everyone give them for the draft this year? - coffee junkie
Don't know enough about them to grade them |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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It was the Islanders I think....not like it'll be a high pick. - Mononoke
Oh Snow was probably phoning in a favor Hexy owed him from 1993 or some poop. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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eliteprospects says the 139 was Florida's pick. |
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Don't know enough about them to grade them - AllInForFlyers
Not the prospects, team. Trades, type of selections, got 'your guy' etc. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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I love the Hextall draft so far, getting BAP and filling needs for the future at the same time. I love the consistent theme with players with decent size and skating.
Mostly happy no picks were given away for Yakapoo. |
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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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I agree, but ultimately, it's a results oriented business. Hextall is building a good staple of prospects, but if they don't turn out, or the team doesn't rise to one of the top teams in the league, it's simply not going to matter. - MJL
This is why i'm not overly gushy... We need to see results. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Hogberg is not on Black Book and not ranked on Central Scouting, but we took a 5th on him. I was confused and searched for anything resembling a scouting report. This is the definition of boom potential in the 5th.
Hogberg is very young for this draft class, being born 11 days before the cutoff -- which helps his cause. As discussed many times, the difference of 6-8 months is huge in the development of 17 and 18-year-olds.
As we can see from his numbers in U20 SuperElit league, Hogberg is an offensive defenceman who isn't afraid to jump in the rush. He finished the season with the 11th most points amongst defenceman in the SuperElit with all the players around him being ranked by NHL CSS. He also saw two regular season games and one playoff game in the SHL.
He has the size and skating abilities to be worth the risk.
When we use pGPS to look at Hogberg, he is the highest rated of this grouping with 18.9% going on to become NHL regulars. Obviously, we don't if a team has their eye on him, but it's entirely possible that he will be available in the 6th or 7th round, and an almost 20% success rate will be very good odds at that point.
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Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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At the same age (both are late summer b-days), Hogberg outperformed Klingberg. Obviously Klingberg took giant steps the next couple years, but this is an interesting one. So so young. Great point production, under the radar, skills and skating on the back end. |
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