Glak18
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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He's an ECHL goalie. - Mononoke
Make sure you quote that so we can come back to it in 2-3 years. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Methinks you need to look at his actual stats and not his reputation. - Mononoke
Trading for a player you flat out won't protect is kind of weird. Even if the chances he gets plucked are slim. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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I'm just...I'm surprised sometimes at how much these picks are valued.
They have value, of course -- I'm not saying it's good to just burn picks on whatever.
But the Flyers had 11 picks even before they traded down. That is a metric (frank)-ton of picks. You're telling me there's no way to move a pick for a player ANYWHERE?
That's what baffles me about this sport now. Teams hold onto picks like they are the last bit of drinking water on Earth, when the math shows that after the first few picks, then a cut of the first round, you are basically throwing darts at a board
It's good to have more darts than the guy next to you; basic math tells you that. But at the same time, better odds of basically nothing is still basically nothing, you know? - AllInForFlyers
I really thought we would've seen some mid round picks moved to get rid of Read. Seems like Hextall is completely retooling the system tbh. |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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I'm just...I'm surprised sometimes at how much these picks are valued.
They have value, of course -- I'm not saying it's good to just burn picks on whatever.
But the Flyers had 11 picks even before they traded down. That is a metric (frank)-ton of picks. You're telling me there's no way to move a pick for a player ANYWHERE?
That's what baffles me about this sport now. Teams hold onto picks like they are the last bit of drinking water on Earth, when the math shows that after the first few picks, then a cut of the first round, you are basically throwing darts at a board
It's good to have more darts than the guy next to you; basic math tells you that. But at the same time, better odds of basically nothing is still basically nothing, you know? - AllInForFlyers
maybe hexy didn't have much faith in our current prospect pool outside of the obvious and gearing up for the expansion draft |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Devils took Bratt. Had him on my list. |
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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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Why Joe? - coffee junkie
Big physical player who plays all three zones... My kinda player |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Kuznetsov who some people wanted with our 2nd hasn't even been taken yet. Neither has Sokolov fwiw. |
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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: this space for rent, PA Joined: 09.19.2006
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I really thought we would've seen some mid round picks moved to get rid of Read. Seems like Hextall is completely retooling the system tbh. - hereticpride
gotta say if I am another NHL team a mid round pick isn't going to make me take what Read has been over the last few seasons at that salary. my hope to get rid of AMAC or Read is expansion. fingers crossed |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Kuznetsov who some people wanted with our 2nd hasn't even been taken yet. Neither has Sokolov fwiw. - Mononoke
Outside of this thread Kuznetsov is ranked way lower than what most of us have him as. I expected him to be gone by round 4 while some had him going early in round two. |
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penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater Joined: 09.01.2008
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how is the auction so far? |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Flames take 5'7" Phillips. For all their Burke posturing, somehow they still take guys like him and Gaudreau. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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He's an ECHL goalie. They traded Nick Ebert for him. - Mononoke
You are what you are traded for...solid logic.
What was Hasek traded for? |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Outside of this thread Kuznetsov is ranked way lower than what most of us have him as. I expected him to be gone by round 4 while some had him going early in round two. - hereticpride
His average draft ranking based on every major source was like 85 |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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You are what you are traded for...solid logic.
What was Hasek traded for? - Glak18
An ECHL goalie traded for Nick Ebert. Whatever. I hope he's a success for his sake. |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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I had Laczynski on my list of faves as a potential 5th rounder. 62 points in 52 games as a young 19 year old in the USHL. |
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I'm just...I'm surprised sometimes at how much these picks are valued.
They have value, of course -- I'm not saying it's good to just burn picks on whatever.
But the Flyers had 11 picks even before they traded down. That is a metric (frank)-ton of picks. You're telling me there's no way to move a pick for a player ANYWHERE?
That's what baffles me about this sport now. Teams hold onto picks like they are the last bit of drinking water on Earth, when the math shows that after the first few picks, then a cut of the first round, you are basically throwing darts at a board
It's good to have more darts than the guy next to you; basic math tells you that. But at the same time, better odds of basically nothing is still basically nothing, you know? - AllInForFlyers
For reference, can anyone tell me what the equivalent of the package that BUF gave up for Kulikov would look like from the Flyers standpoint?
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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Good call on Laberge, Billy. What do we (you) know about Allison? - Boyer83
He was mentioned in today's blog too. Power forward, heavy shot, rose in rankings in 2nd half. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Wow Flyers are loading up with centers with decent size. |
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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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I really thought we would've seen some mid round picks moved to get rid of Read. Seems like Hextall is completely retooling the system tbh. - hereticpride
Exactly -- something like that. As 2Real just noted, perhaps Hextall thinks that the system needs every single one of those picks, and it's his job to know that. I'm not necessarily praising or criticizing him.
I'm just...man. I like a good fourth-round success story as much as anybody. I love a good Patrick Sharp pick, a Jamie Benn pick, like everybody else.
But the reason those guys are good stories is because they are freaking rare -- who was picked one spot before Jamie Benn? Five? Ten? Who was picked right after? Five spots? Ten?
What makes Jamie Benn special isn't just that he's a great player drafted in the fourth round. It's how many fourth-rounders there are every single season before a Jamie Benn pops up |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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God, do I hate this draft coverage. You have no clue where they are or who was picked while they prattle on. Then an American player gets selected and they stop and devote half an hour to him. |
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Wow Flyers are loading up with centers with decent size. - Glak18
Hexy definitely has a type today. I'm liking it. I imagine if even some of these guys pan out, it will make for a big tough fast team that plays from the back end out.
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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I don't want to go crazy, but Joe Pavelski was drafted in the 7th round as a 19 year old in the USHL coming off a 69 points in 60 games season.
We just drafted Lacyznski in the 6th as a 19 year old in the USHL coming off a 63 points in 52 games season.
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I don't want to go crazy, but Joe Pavelski was drafted in the 7th round as a 19 year old in the USHL coming off a 69 points in 60 games season.
We just drafted Lacyznski in the 6th as a 19 year old in the USHL coming off a 63 points in 52 games season.
- Mononoke
Here's what Future Considerations has to say about him:
Laczynski is a power forward with a heavy scoring mentality. He has good touch with the puck and is comfortable making plays with the puck on his stick. He shows good vision setting up his teammates on the ice and uses his body to bash through checks down low. Laczynski works the cycle well and is capable of grinding out consecutive shifts without showing much wear. He is a smooth skater with a long stride, and decent speed and agility. He shows good hustle and is tenacious on the puck. Laczynski plays the body and supports the puck. He does all the little things well and is smart enough to know how he can contribute each shift. He protects the puck using his frame and strength. Defensively, he has solid awareness and gets into lanes aggres- sively. The Ohio State recruit was a ranked skater last year, but he went untouched in the draft and now takes a crack as a second-time eligible. He gained an inch and nearly 20 pounds last summer, enabling him to play stronger this season. He's not the ashiest guy on the ice, but he plays a heads-up game and gets to the areas of the ice that lead to success. Laczynski shows some positive upside, but would bene t from consistent effort in the defensive zone and gaining even more muscle to allow for better dominance along the wall and in the corners. |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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I don't want to go crazy, but Joe Pavelski was drafted in the 7th round as a 19 year old in the USHL coming off a 69 points in 60 games season.
We just drafted Lacyznski in the 6th as a 19 year old in the USHL coming off a 63 points in 52 games season.
- Mononoke
He'll come up small in big games though |
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