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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:03 PM ET
Yeah, but his team traded him. These other guys were just handed UFA status.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm getting a shot at UFA status 2-3 years early, I'm going to test the waters.

- Jsaquella

You sure as hell are...
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:12 PM ET
... but ya gotta love a Yamamoto my friend.

I hope he goes to Pittsburgh so their guy can slaughter his goal announcement so racially bad that they have to fire him.

or Boston.

- mayorofangrytown


Yamamoto was so damn impressive during the U18s...Logan Brown got too much credit imo during that tourney. Yamamoto and Mittlestat were equally terrific on that line.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
... but ya gotta love a Yamamoto my friend.

I hope he goes to Pittsburgh so their guy can slaughter his goal announcement so racially bad that they have to fire him.

or Boston.

- mayorofangrytown


I do?
PepinoPamplemousse
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 01.18.2009

Jun 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
I did not ask why Detroit made the move.
- MJL



There's no way you're a literal wall, but you may be a very close cousin.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:16 PM ET
lol
- PhillySportsGuy

which was promptly used to draft a defenseman who scored maybe 14 points in his junior career.

lol as well i guess
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:18 PM ET
Yeah, but his team traded him. These other guys were just handed UFA status.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm getting a shot at UFA status 2-3 years early, I'm going to test the waters.

- Jsaquella


if beau tested waters of any sort he'd break both ankles and promptly drown.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 6:20 PM ET
Per flyers Twitter, we have made qualifying offers to RFAs Cousins, Manning, Schenn, Straka and...AND...Jordan Weal!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
No matter what, there are mechanisms in place to ensure the 50/50 split, it's just a question of how the money is divided among the players. The reason for the cap floor is to ensure that each team spends a certain amount. Just as the league had a problem with salary paid out, exceeding cap hits paid out, so should the players for cap hits paid out, exceeding salary paid out. No matter what Detroit spends, there is still going to be 11M in cap hits paid, that counts towards the players share, without the salary paid out behind it.
- MJL


Please explain how the cap hit affects that whether it's on Detroit or Arizonas books. It's either going to prevent Detroit from signing someone or let's Arizona pay someone less. Makes perfect sense to let the team that can/wants to pay for it, pay for it
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
Per flyers Twitter, we have made qualifying offers to RFAs Cousins, Manning, Schenn, Straka and...AND...Jordan Weal!
- arichardson22


When do the cup final tickets go on presale?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
Per flyers Twitter, we have made qualifying offers to RFAs Cousins, Manning, Schenn, Straka and...AND...Jordan Weal!
- arichardson22


Weal is gonna be so good for the Wild this year
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:30 PM ET
I realize I'm waaaay l8 on this, but about franking time Lindros was elected to the HHOF.

For a few years, he was the best AND most exciting player to watch.

I'll take that any day over 20 years of reliable 2nd line service, aka HHOFer Mike Gartner.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:31 PM ET
Please explain how the cap hit affects that whether it's on Detroit or Arizonas books. It's either going to prevent Detroit from signing someone or let's Arizona pay someone less. Makes perfect sense to let the team that can/wants to pay for it, pay for it
- YuenglingJagr


Either way, it's going to be 7.5M in cap hit paid out, without the salary behind it. For Arizona, with the point you brought up before, it let's them possibly play younger players in the lineup, rather than having to sign veterans to contracts to meet the cap floor, if they didn't have the Datsyuk contract, which is better for player and team development for them, but player development is not a function or a mechanism of the salary cap. Just as player cap hits not equaling salaries paid out, is not what the league wants, the players want all teams legitimately hitting the cap floor, to get the maximum amount of salary paid out to players.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:41 PM ET
I do?
- ob18


What team did Sean Day go to? I forget.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:43 PM ET
What team did Sean Day go to? I forget.
- Mononoke


NY Rangers, 98th overall I believe.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:48 PM ET
NY Rangers, 98th overall I believe.
- ob18


I know. Just yanking your chain. 81 actually.

It's actually good that he went to the Rangers. I look forward to a Day-Girardi pairing.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:50 PM ET
I know. Just yanking your chain. 81 actually.

It's actually good that he went to the Rangers. I look forward to a Day-Girardi pairing.

- Mononoke


I wouldn't have had a problem if the Flyers picked him.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
I wouldn't have had a problem if the Flyers picked him.
- ob18


I am well aware
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:56 PM ET
Doesn't the period of when teams can talk to other teams UFA's open about now?
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 7:00 PM ET
Doesn't the period of when teams can talk to other teams UFA's open about now?
- MJL

It opened on Saturday, I think at noon? But definitely started Saturday.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:01 PM ET
It opened on Saturday, I think at noon? But definitely started Saturday.
- five4fighting10


Usually generates some good rumors. Probably ramp up as teams were busy with draft and traveling.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:19 PM ET
Per flyers Twitter, we have made qualifying offers to RFAs Cousins, Manning, Schenn, Straka and...AND...Jordan Weal!
- arichardson22

What does this mean for Schenn? He obviously won't be signing a qualifying offer.

Weal? Can he be demoted to the AHL or is it like last year where he needs to be on the Flyers or have a chance of being claimed?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 7:22 PM ET
What does this mean for Schenn? He obviously won't be signing a qualifying offer.

Weal? Can he be demoted to the AHL or is it like last year where he needs to be on the Flyers or have a chance of being claimed?

- coffee junkie


I think this means Hexy views Weal as Schenn's replacement.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 7:23 PM ET
I wouldn't have had a problem if the Flyers picked him.
- ob18


Ew
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:30 PM ET
I think this means Hexy views Weal as Schenn's replacement.
- Mononoke


In order to retain the rights to an RFA, he has to be given a qualifying offer, if not, he becomes a UFA. It's just a formality with Schenn.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 27 @ 7:33 PM ET
Ew
- Tomahawk


He has everything you could want in a prospect though. 3 years ago he was can't miss. Skating. Size. Smarts...errr, maybe not, but he has a brain anyway. Good enough for me!

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