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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
You don't trade him for Weber unless there is some truth to it.
- Homer

You don't trade for Shea Weber....period. He's declining and signed until he's 40.

That deal is bad.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
You don't trade him for Weber unless there is some truth to it.
- Homer


Yea you also dont trade Hall for Larsson, but that happened.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
You don't trade for Shea Weber....period. He's declining and signed until he's 40.

That deal is bad.

- sbroads24


Agreed.

I do that deal everyday if I am Nashville.
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
I would love to see a gif of Montreal fans making fun of EDM for how dumb their trade was and then see the Breaking News headline on Subban.

It would be the ultimate crying Jordan moment.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
Yea you also dont trade Hall for Larsson, but that happened.
- ImThatGuy



Now which trade is worse?

I still say Hall for Larsson is worse
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
Now which trade is worse?

I still say Hall for Larsson is worse

- Stripes77


Don't worry though, it will all make sense when we see what else the Oilers do, per EK.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
Am I the only one who thinks that Subban for Weber is relatively even ? Now the oilers are a joke but Weber is fantastic and better defensively then Subban
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
You don't trade for Shea Weber....period. He's declining and signed until he's 40.

That deal is bad.

- sbroads24


We all know there are ways to get out of 'bad" contracts...and Weber is still very good.

I'm not saying its a good deal for Montreal but its not like its nearly as one sided as Hall for Larsson
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
Now which trade is worse?

I still say Hall for Larsson is worse

- Stripes77

They are both close to historically bad.

Subban might have beef with teammates, but he just donated 10 mil to a hospital.

It's not like he's getting into bar fights or being accused of being abusive
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
You don't trade for Shea Weber....period. He's declining and signed until he's 40.

That deal is bad.

- sbroads24



Nashville could have cap recapture issues with that contract in the future.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
Am I the only one who thinks that Subban for Weber is relatively even ? Now the oilers are a joke but Weber is fantastic and better defensively then Subban
- Pegullaville


No you are not.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
We all know there are ways to get out of 'bad" contracts...and Weber is still very good.

I'm not saying its a good deal for Montreal but its not like its nearly as one sided as Hall for Larsson

- Homer

I don't know man. Montreal literally just downgraded at the same position.

EDM at least....got a top 4 RD they desperately need

Both are so bad though.....
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
They are both close to historically bad.

Subban might have beef with teammates, but he just donated 10 mil to a hospital.

It's not like he's getting into bar fights or being accused of being abusive

- sbroads24


You had to go there didn't you
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Who is this Stamkos guy? And what all the fuss about?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Now which trade is worse?

I still say Hall for Larsson is worse

- Stripes77


Much worse I agree, there I was expecting a couple firsts or at least a first and a second going back/players already drafted of that caliber...didn't happen.

Nashville should have had to swallow big time cap for making that trade and include more, but not nearly as egregious as EDM trading Hall away for Larsson.
gibby111
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Fort Erie , ON
Joined: 02.06.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Wouldn't Hall for Suban be the better deal?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Now which trade is worse?

I still say Hall for Larsson is worse

- Stripes77

+1
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
You had to go there didn't you
- Stripes77

chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
I wonder who Nashville will name captain now
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
Wouldn't Hall for Suban be the better deal?
- gibby111


Montreal wanted the same position back.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
I call "Collusion, Corruption, Old Boys Clubs"

You can't get away with this on NHL VideoGame!

1. Arizona "Gifts" Detroit 6.5 Million
2. Taylor Hall for F?cking Random NHL Dman
3. P. K. Subban for a 4-5 yr OLDER Shea Weber????

Somethings not smelling right in the kitchen!
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
Now which trade is worse?

I still say Hall for Larsson is worse

- Stripes77

Will someone please walk to bottoms up and drag tim murray out of there. Is he still partying with kane. How do you not get taylor hall. Adam larsson,really
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
I don't know man. Montreal literally just downgraded at the same position.

EDM at least....got a top 4 RD they desperately need

Both are so bad though.....

- sbroads24



Nashville might be paying 10.8 mil for subban

They possiblily have a 1.825 recapture penalty for moving Weber.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
So if the Sabres would have won 6 more games last year they make the playoffs...

With Detroit not getting better, Boston and Montreal not getting better even if Price carrys them I see a way where Buffalo makes the playoffs with their roster as is right now...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:45 PM ET
Nashville might be paying 10.8 mil for subban

They possiblily have a 1.825 recapture penalty for moving Weber.

- dadeadhead

I just can't get over the age. Weber is declining and signed longer.

Makes no sense to me.

If they did Hall for Subban I could see it
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