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mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:26 PM ET
The context that started this was why is everyone pitching a tent over possibly trading for Lande when Okposo only costs cap for the same or more output....

I agree with you though if any of those guys can be grabbed for a good price, do it.

- Phatjohnsn


I would love Landeskog here but I think the Colorado rumors are bogus.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:26 PM ET
Who is passing to him .. I'm sorry I had too
- GERBE!!!75PTS


I only saw Tavares once and it was on a PP. a lot of Nielson and I believe Strome.
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 30 @ 8:26 PM ET
Numbers always lie. Well, numbers don't but the people using them do, or at least use them to fit their narrative.
- Wetbandit1


Pts/60 for one player vs pts/60 for another player. Can't get much more straightforward than that. Lol
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:27 PM ET
The context that started this was why is everyone pitching a tent over possibly trading for Lande when Okposo only costs cap for the same or more output....

I agree with you though if any of those guys can be grabbed for a good price, do it.

- Phatjohnsn

I think the consistency of Landy would make me more comfortable than Okposo
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:29 PM ET
He was playing top 6 minutes with that team and shouldn't have been. Also goal scoring was up in the few years he scored 20 compared to now. Not saying he was awful but I just don't think we need to get another 3rd liner
- Phatjohnsn



I have to disagree hecht was awesome he did the little things that mattered and very consistent .. Why shouldn't he have been playing top six minutes ?

The lines we had back in the day were just perfect..

Danny , Pominville , Hecht line
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 30 @ 8:29 PM ET
I think the consistency of Landy would make me more comfortable than Okposo
- sbroads24


Fair enough. I get the age thing too. But I still don't see why Colorado would deal Lande. I almost feel like he's an untouchable there.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:30 PM ET
I think the consistency of Landy would make me more comfortable than Okposo
- sbroads24


The price could set us back a bunch too
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:31 PM ET
Fair enough. I get the age thing too. But I still don't see why Colorado would deal Lande. I almost feel like he's an untouchable there.
- Phatjohnsn


I would normally agree but it was TSN that tweeted he was going on their rumor board that sparked the wildfire today.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:31 PM ET
I only saw Tavares once and it was on a PP. a lot of Nielson and I believe Strome.
- JVince11


Why is it the Islanders let there wingers slip away and they don't try to re-sign them .. Can someone give me the reason for that ?
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:31 PM ET
I have to disagree hecht was awesome he did the little things that mattered and very consistent .. Why shouldn't he have been playing top six minutes ?

The lines we had back in the day were just perfect..

Danny , Pominville , Hecht line

- GERBE!!!75PTS



I was a big Hecht fan, myself.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:32 PM ET
The price could set us back a bunch too
- cabin



True but having him and Ryan O'Reilly those two would be the hardest workers to play against On one line
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 30 @ 8:32 PM ET
Numbers always lie. Well, numbers don't but the people using them do, or at least use them to fit their narrative.
- Wetbandit1


I was curious so I checked out some numbers, I don't love the idea of Okposo, just threw out some numbers
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:33 PM ET
I was a big Hecht fan, myself.
- rmiethaner


Some people just like to complain( I do too) they just forget how solid he was back in the day
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:33 PM ET
True but having him and Ryan O'Reilly those two would be the hardest workers to play against On one line
- GERBE!!!75PTS


And we would be building the other lines for another 3 yrs
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:33 PM ET
Landeskog is signed for 5 more years at a cap hit of $5.5 per.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:34 PM ET
Why is it the Islanders let there wingers slip away and they don't try to re-signs them .. Can someone give me the reason for that ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS


I cannot

Grabner and Moulson were both traded weren't they? Okposo walked. Who else am I missing?

They also know they have one of the deepest prospect pools for wingers in the NHL so maybe they know they don't need to overpay wingers?
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:34 PM ET
Landeskog is signed for 5 more years at a cap hit of $5.5 per.
- mhp

mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 30 @ 8:35 PM ET
Why is it the Islanders let there wingers slip away and they don't try to re-sign them .. Can someone give me the reason for that ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS


If they bring in Ladd to replace Okposo that's probably not a great idea
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:35 PM ET
And we would be building the other lines for another 3 yrs
- cabin



They would probably want Marcus ,Gus 1st ,2nd, A + prospect , Kane if I could lol
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:36 PM ET
They would probably want Marcus ,Gus 1st ,2nd, A + prospect , Kane if I could lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS


That's a lot . Depends on the prospect I guess.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:36 PM ET
I'd rather sign Ladd than Okposo
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:37 PM ET
I'd rather sign Ladd than Okposo
- chilliard77


Ladd and Kane together?

No thanks
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:37 PM ET
Pts/60 for one player vs pts/60 for another player. Can't get much more straightforward than that. Lol
- Phatjohnsn


It can if one player plays heavy minutes and the other doesn't. We all know Risto is knocking on the door of being an elite level offensive defenseman. He was 24th in defensemen scoring last year, but his hero chart sucks. They have him at a low 2nd pairing. How does 24th in scoring jive with low 2nd pairing scoring wise? Because they're all per 60.

http://public.tableau.com...X5F53K?:display_count=yes

It doesn't take into effect when the ice time occurs, PP, PK. Offensive zone starts defensive zone starts, ice time when ahead, behind, tied. All that poop affects a players stats, and when you boil it all down to well this guy has more points per 60 minutes of ice time. It cheapens the whole thing.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:38 PM ET
I can't even answer this I don't know if you're trolling or you don't watch the NHL outside of the Sabres
- GERBE!!!75PTS



I couldnt believe he compared the two.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:38 PM ET
Ladd and Kane together?

No thanks

- JVince11

I'm not worried about that. They are professionals.
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