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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 30 @ 11:37 PM ET
Oh plus the wife giving BJ's during the 2nd intermission.
- thundachunk

thats mighty kind of you...where's the line form?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:40 PM ET
Disagree.... He's gotta' be first call when you need a 2nd round pick.
- rugdnit


To be fair, the EG deal looks much better after seeing Hall traded straight up for Larsson.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:46 PM ET
To be fair, the EG deal looks much better after seeing Hall traded straight up for Larsson.
- golfingsince


yup. Benning would be crucified if he made the Hall or Subban trades.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 30 @ 11:47 PM ET
He's drunk
- VANTEL


Who isn't?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 11:48 PM ET
Disagree.... He's gotta' be first call when you need a 2nd round pick.
- rugdnit


http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=176005

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=171592

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=176326

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=187555

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=177582

These are the top 5 second rounders it gets worse after this.




Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 30 @ 11:51 PM ET
To be fair, the EG deal looks much better after seeing Hall traded straight up for Larsson.
- golfingsince


I don't agree with that rationalization.
The deal was done and may have caused Edmonton to overpay. If it was done in reverse order would you feel the same? Or if the oilers deal never happened?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:55 PM ET
I don't agree with that rationalization.
The deal was done and may have caused Edmonton to overpay. If it was done in reverse order would you feel the same? Or if the oilers deal never happened?

- Scooby_Doo


I was ok with the deal when it happened, and understood the need.
It feels better knowing that Edmonton overpaid, but they're rich (in talent) and can afford to overpay, so...

when they sign Lucic and Demers it will help Oiler fans get over it.
Hall for Lucic, Demers and Larson is easier to swallow.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 30 @ 11:56 PM ET
I was ok with the deal when it happened, and understood the need.
It feels better knowing that Edmonton overpaid, but they're rich (in talent) and can afford to overpay, so...

when they sign Lucic and Demers it will help Oiler fans get over it.
Hall for Lucic, Demers and Larson is easier to swallow.

- dbot

It shouldn't mak by hem feel better
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 30 @ 11:57 PM ET
STAMKOS!!!!




That poop just keeps on giving.....
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 11:58 PM ET
It shouldn't mak by hem feel better
- VANTEL


if they get the players they're expected to, they make the playoffs this year (don't think i've ever predicted that before).
making the playoffs for the first time in a decade will make the fans happy.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 30 @ 11:58 PM ET
I was ok with the deal when it happened, and understood the need.
It feels better knowing that Edmonton overpaid, but they're rich (in talent) and can afford to overpay, so...

when they sign Lucic and Demers it will help Oiler fans get over it.
Hall for Lucic, Demers and Larson is easier to swallow.

- dbot


Larsson has way more upside than Gudbranson.
In fact, Gudbranson could be another Girardi type that fizzles away and becomes useless in todays NHL. I hope not, but there is a lot more downside risk to Gudbranson than there is for upside potential.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 30 @ 11:58 PM ET
I don't agree with that rationalization.
The deal was done and may have caused Edmonton to overpay. If it was done in reverse order would you feel the same? Or if the oilers deal never happened?

- Scooby_Doo




What difference does it make? The deals have been made so I thinks it's fair to compare and critique regardless order of consummation.......
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 30 @ 11:59 PM ET
I don't agree with that rationalization.
The deal was done and may have caused Edmonton to overpay. If it was done in reverse order would you feel the same? Or if the oilers deal never happened?

- Scooby_Doo


It seems to me that most of these deals would be interwoven. It just shows how high the market is on D. Amazing that Nashville seemed to get the best deal.

I much prefer drafting Juolevi than the EG deal, but to me at least the Hall trade made it more palatable.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:00 AM ET
Larsson has way more upside than Gudbranson.
In fact, Gudbranson could be another Girardi type that fizzles away and becomes useless in todays NHL. I hope not, but there is a lot more downside risk to Gudbranson than there is for upside potential.

- Scooby_Doo


I agree for sure, but Hall is a bonafide top line winger. We gave up a prospect and a 2nd.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jul 1 @ 12:00 AM ET
Larsson has way more upside than Gudbranson.
In fact, Gudbranson could be another Girardi type that fizzles away and becomes useless in todays NHL. I hope not, but there is a lot more downside risk to Gudbranson than there is for upside potential.

- Scooby_Doo




And Larsson may never achieve his upside.....lots of speculation there scoob.....
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:01 AM ET
What difference does it make? The deals have been made so I thinks it's fair to compare and critique regardless order of consummation.......
- chompsey


I don't agree with that. Just because someone comes along and makes a more stupid trade, that doesn't make our trade seem less stupid.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:01 AM ET
Larsson has way more upside than Gudbranson.
In fact, Gudbranson could be another Girardi type that fizzles away and becomes useless in todays NHL. I hope not, but there is a lot more downside risk to Gudbranson than there is for upside potential.

- Scooby_Doo


yeah. i am ok with Gudbrason topping out as a 3-4 Dman.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:01 AM ET
It seems to me that most of these deals would be interwoven. It just shows how high the market is on D. Amazing that Nashville seemed to get the best deal.

I much prefer drafting Juolevi than the EG deal, but to me at least the Hall trade made it more palatable.

- golfingsince


Trollfest
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:03 AM ET
And Larsson may never achieve his upside.....lots of speculation there scoob.....
- chompsey


And McCann might win the Art Ross.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:03 AM ET
I don't agree with that. Just because someone comes along and makes a more stupid trade, that doesn't make our trade seem less stupid.
- Scooby_Doo


Doesn't that indicate market prices are high?
Larsen cost more (but the Oilers could afford it) and Gudbranson cost quite a bit (prospect and a 2nd)
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jul 1 @ 12:03 AM ET
I don't agree with that. Just because someone comes along and makes a more stupid trade, that doesn't make our trade seem less stupid.
- Scooby_Doo



You could use that rationale for every deal ever made then....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jul 1 @ 12:04 AM ET
And McCann might win the Art Ross.
- Scooby_Doo




The 5th rounder the Canucks got in the deal may win the Norris
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:04 AM ET
Trollfest
- VanHockeyGuy


These really are your finest moments on HB. It's more meaningful than anything else you contribute.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:04 AM ET
yeah. i am ok with Gudbrason topping out as a 3-4 Dman.
- dbot


Which would be a win if McCann doesn't have a long career in a top 6 roll. But if he becomes and 60-70 point guy, then we got bent over again by the cats.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:06 AM ET
Doesn't that indicate market prices are high?
Larsen cost more (but the Oilers could afford it) and Gudbranson cost quite a bit (prospect and a 2nd)

- dbot


It might just mean Benning and Chiarelli have no clue what they're doing.
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