so he regressed in 2014-15 and still managed a Norris nomination?

thank god he's gone!
- DoubleDown

yep good trade.

will retire as a Hab along with Therrien in 2022.
- AGalchenyuk27

What a miserable thing to say.

so he regressed in 2014-15 and still managed a Norris nomination?

thank god he's gone!
- DoubleDown

I think fans were giving him a lot of slack because of his talent/potential/superstar status even if he commited too much mistakes leading to goals against.

I think fans were giving him a lot of slack because of his talent/potential/superstar status even if he commited too much mistakes leading to goals against.
- BashCH

All offensive defensemen are risky. You have to live with that.

But one thing Subban never seemed to understand, and what probably irked management, is learning to play the clock.

EDIT: That, and always wearing his own brand stuff after practices and games

All offensive defensemen are risky. You have to live with that.

But one thing Subban never seemed to understand, and what probably irked management, is learning to play the clock.
- Euh_Michel

Didn't always play smart as well...

Agreed it might be because he was often the only good player on the ice and tried to do everything on his own...

I think fans were giving him a lot of slack because of his talent/potential/superstar status even if he commited too much mistakes leading to goals against.
- BashCH

he seemed more prone to unforced errors/bonehead plays last year yeah, still led the team in scoring and on many nights was one of the few guys who actually showed up to play. i prefer errors like he made last year to watching a guy like Plekanec just call it quits mid season.

so he regressed in 2014-15 and still managed a Norris nomination?

thank god he's gone!
- DoubleDown

All offensive defensemen are risky. You have to live with that.

But one thing Subban never seemed to understand, and what probably irked management, is learning to play the clock.

EDIT: That, and always wearing his own brand stuff after practices and games
- Euh_Michel

maybe but that's not what got him traded. i think it was 100% all off ice stuff. whatever his flaws on the ice, they could live with. and contrary to popular belief i don't think it was a case of picking Therrien over Subban. i think Therrien is actually on very thin ice.

maybe but that's not what got him traded. i think it was 100% all off ice stuff. whatever his flaws on the ice, they could live with. and contrary to popular belief i don't think it was a case of picking Therrien over Subban. i think Therrien is actually on very thin ice.
- DoubleDown

You're such a tease.

maybe but that's not what got him traded. i think it was 100% all off ice stuff. whatever his flaws on the ice, they could live with. and contrary to popular belief i don't think it was a case of picking Therrien over Subban. i think Therrien is actually on very thin ice.
- DoubleDown

PK was an ass. Hated by his coach and most teammates. Laughing after losses.Weber will straighten them out.

You're such a tease.
- habs12

Doubledown will defend his buddy Bergevin no matter what, he is blaming everything on Therrien now.

Doubledown will defend his buddy Bergevin no matter what, he is blaming everything on Therrien now.
- Symba007

Seems like a decent place to start.

Doubledown will defend his buddy Bergevin no matter what, he is blaming everything on Therrien now.
- Symba007

PK was an ass. Hated by his coach and most teammates. Laughing after losses.Weber will straighten them out.
- AGalchenyuk27

I dunno by "most", but pretty sure the ones that mattered.

Fact is, he wasn't worth 9m, 6ish and he'd still be a hab, imo

PK was an ass. Hated by his coach and most teammates. Laughing after losses.Weber will straighten them out.
- AGalchenyuk27

Don't know if you're joking or not

Don't know if you're joking or not
- _nay_

He's 100%

Still, trading Subban because of his character and signing Radulov is like poopting on Strombo because of his suits and still sucking on Cherry's old, smelly cock.

I dunno by "most", but pretty sure the ones that mattered.

Fact is, he wasn't worth 9m, 6ish and he'd still be a hab, imo
- pete26

my boy Patch

my boy Patch
- AGalchenyuk27

That video in the dressing room at the Winter Classic was all I needed to see.

Still, trading Subban because of his character and signing Radulov is like poopting on Strombo because of his suits and still sucking on Cherry's old, smelly cock.
- _nay_

i think that's an oversimplification. Subban was the team's highest profile, highest paid player and biggest personality who had tons of influence. assuming he won't be out having foursomes with fred the night before games, i imagine he'll want to be quite low profile.

That video in the dressing room at the Winter Classic was all I needed to see.
- pete26

was it worse than the time Gionta sobbed in Therrien's arms?

Honestly I still think the biggest problem Montreal has is coach and GM. Reactionary moves here,albeit some good ones to address issues, really this is the GM doing what he should have done before in shoring up holes on the team. I mean it doesn't take a genius to figure out to have a legit backup for Price! Good moves BUT have to see how it plays itself out but thinking they really need to start getting the upper part of the house in order and getting an actual plan on the form and shape of the team they want.

was it worse than the time Gionta sobbed in Therrien's arms?
- DoubleDown

Oh right, forgot about that one.

They're equally embarrassing.

Honestly I still think the biggest problem Montreal has is coach and GM. Reactionary moves here,albeit some good ones to address issues, really this is the GM doing what he should have done before in shoring up holes on the team. I mean it doesn't take a genius to figure out to have a legit backup for Price! Good moves BUT have to see how it plays itself out but thinking they really need to start getting the upper part of the house in order and getting an actual plan on the form and shape of the team they want.
- Roadrunner75

BEEP BEEP!!

Can't wait for the next mea culpa