I agree the media loves to stroked the leafs and deflate the Canucks because weve been so solid for so long in comparison, but I kinda agree with them here. Erikkson and Guddy make us a bubble team, not a legit threat. Barring a big leap season from Bo or JV, I don't see this team making it to the dance.

This being said, we are a better team and teams should be trying to get better and younger. I kinda wanted to see one more tank before this, but am happy to see a better quality roster this year cause it will make the games better to watch.
I expect more growing pains as the roster figures out its chemistry with so many changes in two years.
This Kane/Landeskog rumor is kind of fun, I feel like we just don't have the parts to make theat kind of deal work, but would love that kkind of grit in the top-6
- neem55

Has anyone seen a projection of goals scored with our present lineup for next season?

I am referring to the eastern media views on a rebuild not saying the Leafs are doing anything unique. Lets see if Toronto can accomplish what Edmonton couldn't
- CanuckDon

Hopefully they'll follow the Lightning, Blackhawks, Islanders, Panthers model more closer

Easy for you and the eastern media to say that we should gut the team and do a long rebuild. Aqulini is running a business and won't sign up for continual losing and empty seats. This isn't Toronto who have the benefit of a large population base and limitless corporate support. The Leafs decided a full tear down was the way to go and now the Eastern media has determined that's the only course of action for all teams that are near the bottom of the standings. Since when did emulating the Leafs become the popular/ right thing to do? Let's see them make the playoffs before we anoint Lou and Shanny geniuses
- CanuckDon

rebuild wouldnt have been so long as we have had many 1st round picks in the last 3-4 years plus if we traded our assets before they hit rock bottom we would be even further along.

FA will loose much more money on a team that wont be in the playoffs and strives to mediocre than young cheap team with a lower salary where fans get to watch high end prospects start to advance.

Easy for you and the eastern media to say that we should gut the team and do a long rebuild. Aqulini is running a business and won't sign up for continual losing and empty seats. This isn't Toronto who have the benefit of a large population base and limitless corporate support. The Leafs decided a full tear down was the way to go and now the Eastern media has determined that's the only course of action for all teams that are near the bottom of the standings. Since when did emulating the Leafs become the popular/ right thing to do? Let's see them make the playoffs before we anoint Lou and Shanny geniuses
- CanuckDon

I am referring to the eastern media views on a rebuild not saying the Leafs are doing anything unique. Lets see if Toronto can accomplish what Edmonton couldn't
- CanuckDon

I think Toronto will turn it around much quicker now that they have gone full rebuild. The oilers had just a terrible management group who did almost nothing correct.

Scott Cullen is a moron
- walshyleafsfan

Hopefully they'll follow the Lightning, Blackhawks, Islanders, Panthers model more closer
- walshyleafsfan

You guys have a great young dman, added ziatsev and have some okay dmen prospects coming. I think you guys should have used all over additional picks after mathews on Dmen and goalies though.

EDIT; unlike anything the oilers ever had until now

I think Toronto will turn it around much quicker now that they have gone full rebuild. The oilers had just a terrible management group who did almost nothing correct.
- mauryballstein

Chiarelli is not any better in my opinion.

He still sucks at drafting

I think the Canucks have a serious chance on the play offs next season. Beating the Wild and Flames (and should I add Edmonton?) for a Wild Card spot is very possible.

So the lines will be something like this?

Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Baertschi - Horvat - Burrows
Granlund - Sutter - Hansen
Etem - Gaunce - Virtanen
Dorsett
+ some random D combinations, which will be slightly better than last year.

Maybe another decent LW is missing here but I like Baertschi, maybe he can get towards 40 points this year

Hopefully they'll follow the Lightning, Blackhawks, Islanders, Panthers model more closer
- walshyleafsfan

I would say the Blackhawks are pretty unique..sure, Kane and Toews obviously help. I am not sure the Islanders or Panthers rebuilds are something to emulate. They SUCKED for a long time. If we miss the playoffs for 10 years the Canucks may be moved to Seattle or Quebec

I think the Canucks have a serious chance on the play offs next season. Beating the Wild and Flames (and should I add Edmonton?) for a Wild Card spot is very possible.

So the lines will be something like this?

Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen
Granlund - Sutter - Hansen
Etem - Gaunce - Burrows
Dorsett
+ some random D combinations, which will be slightly better than last year.

Maybe another decent LW is missing here but I like Baertschi, maybe he can get towards 40 points this year
- DutchSenators

I think Toronto will turn it around much quicker now that they have gone full rebuild. The oilers had just a terrible management group who did almost nothing correct.
- mauryballstein

The Canucks won't do a full rebuild as long as the Sedin's are here. It's fine to debate the merits between a full tear down/ rebuild on the fly but it's just never going to happen. In 2 years if we are still awful and the Sedin's decide to retire then perhaps they will be more aggressive in selling off veterans. The club has decided to take one more run at a championship while we still have the Sedin's. As long as we continue to accumulate more prospects I have no issues with the plan.

The Canucks won't do a full rebuild as long as the Sedin's are here. It's fine to debate the merits between a full tear down/ rebuild on the fly but it's just never going to happen. In 2 years if we are still awful and the Sedin's decide to retire then perhaps they will be more aggressive in selling off veterans. The club has decided to take one more run at a championship while we still have the Sedin's. As long as we continue to accumulate more prospects I have no issues with the plan.
- CanuckDon

exactly.

The Canucks won't do a full rebuild as long as the Sedin's are here. It's fine to debate the merits between a full tear down/ rebuild on the fly but it's just never going to happen. In 2 years if we are still awful and the Sedin's decide to retire then perhaps they will be more aggressive in selling off veterans. The club has decided to take one more run at a championship while we still have the Sedin's. As long as we continue to accumulate more prospects I have no issues with the plan.
- CanuckDon

Yup.

The Canucks won't do a full rebuild as long as the Sedin's are here. It's fine to debate the merits between a full tear down/ rebuild on the fly but it's just never going to happen. In 2 years if we are still awful and the Sedin's decide to retire then perhaps they will be more aggressive in selling off veterans. The club has decided to take one more run at a championship while we still have the Sedin's. As long as we continue to accumulate more prospects I have no issues with the plan.
- CanuckDon

Yes. High end prospects, top six draft.

The Canucks won't do a full rebuild as long as the Sedin's are here. It's fine to debate the merits between a full tear down/ rebuild on the fly but it's just never going to happen. In 2 years if we are still awful and the Sedin's decide to retire then perhaps they will be more aggressive in selling off veterans. The club has decided to take one more run at a championship while we still have the Sedin's. As long as we continue to accumulate more prospects I have no issues with the plan.
- CanuckDon

Has anyone seen a projection of goals scored with our present lineup for next season?
- hillbillydeluxe

No, It would be interesting to see though. It's pretty hard imagine us scoring less given the injuries and younger guys getting better. Like I said, I see a bubble team. The west is a little easier to sneak in at the bottom given that there are less teams, as we learned 2 years ago, so you never know! Maybe Juolevi makes the lineup and has 30 points as a rookie.

How is Jarvis' swordmanship?

I think the Canucks have a serious chance on the play offs next season. Beating the Wild and Flames (and should I add Edmonton?) for a Wild Card spot is very possible.

So the lines will be something like this?

Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Baertschi - Horvat - Burrows
Granlund - Sutter - Hansen
Etem - Gaunce - Virtanen
Dorsett
+ some random D combinations, which will be slightly better than last year.

Maybe another decent LW is missing here but I like Baertschi, maybe he can get towards 40 points this year
- DutchSenators

Fartski is more than capable of 40 pts. Anything less would be disappointing!
Still wish we had kept that whinny puss! But I think Anderson will more than make up for the loss!

Fartski is more than capable of 40 pts. Anything less would be disappointing!
Still wish we had kept that whinny puss! But I think Anderson will more than make up for the loss!
- K-man25

Super.

I agree the media loves to stroked the leafs and deflate the Canucks because weve been so solid for so long in comparison, but I kinda agree with them here. Erikkson and Guddy make us a bubble team, not a legit threat. Barring a big leap season from Bo or JV, I don't see this team making it to the dance.

This being said, we are a better team and teams should be trying to get better and younger. I kinda wanted to see one more tank before this, but am happy to see a better quality roster this year cause it will make the games better to watch.
I expect more growing pains as the roster figures out its chemistry with so many changes in two years.
This Kane/Landeskog rumor is kind of fun, I feel like we just don't have the parts to make theat kind of deal work, but would love that kkind of grit in the top-6
- neem55

Oh I fully disagree. I bet you could you could get Kane 60 cents on the dollar right now.......in fact, I'd be so ballsy as to predict Kane for Baertschi straight up would do it...

As for Landeskog...fat (frank)in chance, although I heard JB is pushing hard for Barrie which says to me it'd be Tanev plus a 1st plus something else substantial, but I'd do it.....

The Canucks won't do a full rebuild as long as the Sedin's are here. It's fine to debate the merits between a full tear down/ rebuild on the fly but it's just never going to happen. In 2 years if we are still awful and the Sedin's decide to retire then perhaps they will be more aggressive in selling off veterans. The club has decided to take one more run at a championship while we still have the Sedin's. As long as we continue to accumulate more prospects I have no issues with the plan.
- CanuckDon

I dont think this team is that far off from the one that surprisingly made the post season 2 years ago, and they are considerably younger this time around. I am actually quite shocked at how ruthless media reports have been on the team's plan to remain competitive while accumulating prospects, but impressed with the patience from Aquillini, Trev and JB to continue doing it in the face of all this negativity. Like it was pointed out, why is adding Eriksson a bad thing? The media ripped it apart instantly calling it puzzling but everyone knew they couldnt enter the year without another top 6 forward (and for the record, I know they said he's with the twins but I see WD using him to shore up the 2nd line with Sven and Bo).
Yes, selling off vets gives you better chances to land high end prospects in the draft, but I am happy with the direction and the youth the team has, it should be a positive trend going forward as they develop

I see where they are coming from. I wanted the full rebuild and I think that is what they are referring to. Basically saying the team wont make the playoffs so why hand cuff yourself with eriksons contract. Instead they should have been signing the younger guys who didnt receive qualifying offers and signed them to cheap short term deals much like toronto did and then use those guys to acquire more picks.
- mauryballstein

Canucks currently have 8 first round picks on their roster 27 and under. Granlud and Markstrom were drafted 31 st. That is as close to a total rebuild as you will get with Aquilini

We have too many bottom 6 forwards. This team desperately needs some grit amongst the forwards. And a top 9 forward that can hit and chip in 15-20 goals, not a one-dimensional 4th liner
- CanuckDon

True, but isn't every team in the NHL looking for the same (frank)ing thing?

This is my problem with management relying on trading and UFAs to find these types of players. The canucks don't have the resources or savvy management to extract that talent (except using high draft picks and too much cap space on middling talent).

Christ, can we not just draft high, multiple times, and develop these types of players with the insurance of having them under cheap contracts for a good amount of time? This was a perfect draft to work some magic. The oilers were ripe for the picking. Puljujarvi sure would have been just what you’re looking for but just a few years away.

It makes me yearn for the days when burkie was wheeling and dealing in the top three… (frank).

No, It would be interesting to see though. It's pretty hard imagine us scoring less given the injuries and younger guys getting better. Like I said, I see a bubble team. The west is a little easier to sneak in at the bottom given that there are less teams, as we learned 2 years ago, so you never know! Maybe Juolevi makes the lineup and has 30 points as a rookie.
- neem55

you just have to wonder if Sven and Bo can have a better start if each could score say 5 more goals?

maybe get a few more goals on the pp

unsure what to expect from Rodin or if Etem can show a bit better after having a strong finish.?

what will Hansen do if not on the top line, expect him to score less, but has he found some more confidence?