Raymond to ANA ? They should change their name from Ducks to ExNux

No, It would be interesting to see though. It's pretty hard imagine us scoring less given the injuries and younger guys getting better. Like I said, I see a bubble team. The west is a little easier to sneak in at the bottom given that there are less teams, as we learned 2 years ago, so you never know! Maybe Juolevi makes the lineup and has 30 points as a rookie.
- neem55

Goal totals from 2015 versus my projection for 2016 (apologize for the poor layout):

Sedin 2015-2016 Henrk 2015-2016 Eriksson 2015-2016
28 - 25 ** 11 - 15 ** 13 - 30
Sven 2015-2016 Bo 2015-2016 Virt 2015-2016
15 - 18 ** 16 - 20 ** 7 - 15
Rodin 2015-2016 Sutter 2015-2016 Hansen 2015-2016
N/A - 10 ** 5 - 20 ** 22 - 18
Dorset 2015-2016 Gran2015-2016 Etem 2015-2016
5 - 5 ** 6 - 10 ** 7 - 10
Burrows/ Megna (press box)

The forwards scored 150 goals last year and based on my projections they will score 196. Note: Eriksson's 2015 goal total represents Vrbata's pathetic showing of 13 goals. Obviously we need to see growth from some of these kids to reach these projections and Rodin is a total wild card.

True, but isn't every team in the NHL looking for the same (frank)ing thing?

This is my problem with management relying on trading and UFAs to find these types of players. The canucks don't have the resources or savvy management to extract that talent (except using high draft picks and too much cap space on middling talent).

Christ, can we not just draft high, multiple times, and develop these types of players with the insurance of having them under cheap contracts for a good amount of time? This was a perfect draft to work some magic. The oilers were ripe for the picking. Puljujarvi sure would have been just what you’re looking for but just a few years away.

It makes me yearn for the days when burkie was wheeling and dealing in the top three… (frank).
- bloatedmosquito

We have drafted high multiple times Bo JV Juolevi . All top 10 picks

Oh I fully disagree. I bet you could you could get Kane 60 cents on the dollar right now.......in fact, I'd be so ballsy as to predict Kane for Baertschi straight up would do it...

As for Landeskog...fat (frank)in chance, although I heard JB is pushing hard for Barrie which says to me it'd be Tanev plus a 1st plus something else substantial, but I'd do it.....
- chompsey

Barrie is gaining steam on twitter

Barrie is gaining steam on twitter
- VANTEL

Really…Hansen + to get that done?

I'd hate to lose Tanev but a deal we would need to make IMO

The Canucks won't do a full rebuild as long as the Sedin's are here. It's fine to debate the merits between a full tear down/ rebuild on the fly but it's just never going to happen. In 2 years if we are still awful and the Sedin's decide to retire then perhaps they will be more aggressive in selling off veterans. The club has decided to take one more run at a championship while we still have the Sedin's. As long as we continue to accumulate more prospects I have no issues with the plan.
- CanuckDon

Again true, but why?

Why wait for 2 years until you start your true rebuild? Why take another run at a championship while the twins are in their declining years? That’s stupid.

I’m a big sedin fan. Off ice stuff just as much as on ice stuff. But there was no injustice done to them. They were not cheated out of anything.

I think people forget that they too played on some really great teams. From the west coast express days to just a few years ago. They were always put in a position to succeed, had multiple shots at the cup, and have been recognized for their efforts with NHL records, trophies, and money. More than the vast majority of NHLers will ever experience.

I think its time to transition and once again the twins can leave their fingerprints on the history of the canucks by molding the future of this club. Business first.

We have drafted high multiple times Bo JV Juolevi . All top 10 picks
- VANTEL

There is no shame in wanting more.

There is no shame in wanting more.
- bloatedmosquito

Like the Oilers?

MacIntyre said Invitee Alex D'Aoust was a standout today at camp

The Canucks won't do a full rebuild as long as the Sedin's are here. It's fine to debate the merits between a full tear down/ rebuild on the fly but it's just never going to happen. In 2 years if we are still awful and the Sedin's decide to retire then perhaps they will be more aggressive in selling off veterans. The club has decided to take one more run at a championship while we still have the Sedin's. As long as we continue to accumulate more prospects I have no issues with the plan.
- CanuckDon

I guess I just don't see how you get from where you are to a championship before the Sedin's retire. First of all there's quite a bit of ground to gain to become a championship level team. At some point your best players and a good chunk of your cap space are going to decline pretty quickly. That's a lot of Loui Erriksons to acquire and a lot of kids to get really good in a few years.

Like the Oilers?
- VANTEL

What do you think?

Of course! They are (were) sitting on a (frank)ing goldmine. They did it. They got an embarrassment of riches and they (frank)ed it up. Don't blame the drafting. Blame managements inability to manage assets and to build a serviceable team around their stars.

The ineptitude is staggering.

What do you think?

Of course! They are (were) sitting on a (frank)ing goldmine. They did it. They got an embarrassment of riches and they (frank)ed it up. Don't blame the drafting. Blame managements inability to manage assets and to build a serviceable team around their stars.

The ineptitude is staggering.
- bloatedmosquito

Aren't they one in the same? It's easy picking #1 but what happens after that they definitely screwed the pooch.

Again true, but why?

Why wait for 2 years until you start your true rebuild? Why take another run at a championship while the twins are in their declining years? That’s stupid.

I’m a big sedin fan. Off ice stuff just as much as on ice stuff. But there was no injustice done to them. They were not cheated out of anything.

I think people forget that they too played on some really great teams. From the west coast express days to just a few years ago. They were always put in a position to succeed, had multiple shots at the cup, and have been recognized for their efforts with NHL records, trophies, and money. More than the vast majority of NHLers will ever experience.

I think its time to transition and once again the twins can leave their fingerprints on the history of the canucks by molding the future of this club. Business first.
- bloatedmosquito

Personally, I don't see the Sedin's retiring in 2 years. I think they will sign on for an additional 2 years. We aren't transitioning now? What do you call the dramatic drop in average age as well as an almost completely different roster? The rebuild has already started it's just not the way you want it.

Does anyone else notice that the talking heads at TSN (and around hockey in general) give no credence to the idea that team and player performances aren't static? Case in point, Scott Cullen says Eriksson isn't a good idea in Vancouver because the Canucks aren't good, so why sign a good player?

http://www.tsn.ca/statist...fit-in-vancouver-1.519309

It's like the fact that they are not trying to just get run over for a bunch of years is apparently beyond consideration.

And then in this clip, they say signing Eriksson is a sign that Benning doesn't know what he's doing. I find it very fatalistic of them to assume teams are just going to fail year after year.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vid...ds-nhl-free-agency~903905
- micah555

I pointed out after their idiotic comments that those ficktards have no idea what goes on in vancity. In fact, it's been pointed out too many times to count that all those ass munchers know is what the consensus is in Toronto regarding vancity. They have no clue, especially that pos Dreger.

The only guy with some credibility is Mackenzie and he doesn't often comment on the Nux...

MacIntyre said Invitee Alex D'Aoust was a standout today at camp
- VANTEL

A few notes on him in Canucks Army..he sounds intriguing

http://canucksarmy.com/20...ent-camp-invites-forwards

Aren't they one in the same? It's easy picking #1 but what happens after that they definitely screwed the pooch.
- allsports

I don't think they are one in the same. Under a more typical management approach that's been demonstrated by many other team in the past, you might assume that they could have built a cup challenging team with the exact same draft picks they made.

Instead, they went through management changes, coaching changes, owner problems getting a stadium built. On top of that they made weird choices in positioning players. Dog house stuff. Wierd signings. They should have been focused on the goal of winning the cup.

And in the end they traded a huge talent. The wrong guy. Kind of starting all over again. Unbelievable.

I would be shocked to see JT leave for Toronto.

NYI not only have a very solid team but have a very good prospect base with some being very close to NHL ready. To bad they lost a couple guys through free agency though.
- mauryballstein

The Islanders have has a "solid team" for a few years now, and then guys leave and they start over

I'm thinking JT is as good as gone when his contract is up

He'll be the 10 million $$$ guy that goes to Toronto

Not to mention the Blue Jackets. They have been at this for a long time. They get good prospects and trade them before they amount to anything. I feel sorry for this franchise.

We have drafted high multiple times Bo JV Juolevi . All top 10 picks
- VANTEL

So was Virtanen. You can't expect prospects to break in to the NHL within a year. Some take 2-3 years to really blossom. This lack of patience for some is incredibly mind boggling. Fickle fan base indeed.

So was Virtanen. You can't expect prospects to break in to the NHL within a year. Some take 2-3 years to really blossom. This lack of patience for some is incredibly mind boggling. Fickle fan base indeed.
- WhatTheNuck

JV is Virtanen

I don't think they are one in the same. Under a more typical management approach that's been demonstrated by many other team in the past, you might assume that they could have built a cup challenging team with the exact same draft picks they made.

Instead, they went through management changes, coaching changes, owner problems getting a stadium built. On top of that they made weird choices in positioning players. Dog house stuff. Wierd signings. They should have been focused on the goal of winning the cup.

And in the end they traded a huge talent. The wrong guy. Kind of starting all over again. Unbelievable.
- bloatedmosquito

I think you're expecting a lot and you seem to expect everything to happen overnight. We were literally left with nothing after Gillis' era. We have maybe just begun to be on the average side of prospect depth. A few more years and it'll be flourishing with a solid in and out system where new prospects break out every 2 years. Hutton and Horvat are the only things Gillis was able to draft for us. Don't forget we lost Luc Bourdon too soon and could've been a great D man in this league. It's ok to be pessimistic but sometimes it sounds like you're gonna jump of the nearest bridge. Time is all Benning needs and we have zero control over what happens. Can't we just give him his 5 years and see what he creates?

And it took Schneider to get us Horvat too. Gillis is a complete (frank)ing tool. Blame him.

Raymond to ANA ? They should change their name from Ducks to ExNux
- VANTEL

Kinda makes you wonder what ANA would have gave us for Raymond-Ballard and a 1st?

JV is Virtanen
- A_SteamingLombardi

My mistake. Caught in the moment.

Kinda makes you wonder what ANA would have gave us for Raymond-Ballard and a 1st?


- LordHumungous

Perry 4 sure

Kinda makes you wonder what ANA would have gave us for Raymond-Ballard and a 1st?


- LordHumungous