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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 7 @ 6:08 PM ET
They'll want to keep him for the playoffs.
- Marwood

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 7 @ 6:10 PM ET
A minor concern I have for the expansion draft is if Gilman is selected as the new GM of Vegas that he will have better insight on the Canuck players/prospects. Though there has been considerable turnover, he was still around for some of JB's time and has good insight on the player's relationship with the team from his days negotiating contracts for Gillis. I would be surprised if he was GM that he takes Sbisa or any other poor contract JB handed out
- WhiteLie

Damn, so they wont take Sbisa.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:13 PM ET
Also Rodin could turn out to be a bust so that's a potential 3rd spot
- NorthNuck

After next season you will have erikson, sedin, sven, jv, boeser and rodin as your top wingers.. so why not deal hansen at the deadline for assets instead of getting nothing for him then it also frees up a spot to protect someone during expansion(rodin/sutter)
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:14 PM ET
Damn, so they wont take Sbisa.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I hope he is gone sooner than that
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:18 PM ET
A minor concern I have for the expansion draft is if Gilman is selected as the new GM of Vegas that he will have better insight on the Canuck players/prospects. Though there has been considerable turnover, he was still around for some of JB's time and has good insight on the player's relationship with the team from his days negotiating contracts for Gillis. I would be surprised if he was GM that he takes Sbisa or any other poor contract JB handed out
- WhiteLie



Maybe so but LV has to take someone from us, so who?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 7 @ 6:19 PM ET
Maybe so but LV has to take someone from us, so who?
- Nighthawk

Sbisa
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:21 PM ET
After next season you will have erikson, sedin, sven, jv, boeser and rodin as your top wingers.. so why not deal hansen at the deadline for assets instead of getting nothing for him then it also frees up a spot to protect someone during expansion(rodin/sutter)
- mauryballstein


JV & Boesser r not available for the expansion draft.
Get up to speed broski lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:21 PM ET
Sbisa
- A_SteamingLombardi


Nearly a foregone conclusion if not dealt IMO
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 6:27 PM ET
Maybe so but LV has to take someone from us, so who?
- Nighthawk


For me its tough to guess because a lot can happen over the year, but at the moment I think the Canucks are a team that wont be an attractive option to poach from and that Vegas's top 6 D will be pillaged from better options elsewhere. I think depending on who's left to expose, they will lose someone like a Granlund, Etem, Gaunce, that will be depth for the new franchise

EDIT: Someone mentioned it earlier, these guys have a tool for it: http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/expansion
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 7 @ 6:31 PM ET
After next season you will have erikson, sedin, sven, jv, boeser and rodin as your top wingers.. so why not deal hansen at the deadline for assets instead of getting nothing for him then it also frees up a spot to protect someone during expansion(rodin/sutter)
- mauryballstein

I think if Rodin turns out to have the upside we are hoping, moving Hansen could be a viable move at the TDL but it would be tough to see him go.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 7 @ 6:31 PM ET
looks like a very reasonable signing - glad to get that out of the way so we can concentrate on improving areas of weakness.

On a separate note, any chance Stetcher makes the team this year?

- Zogg


I think he could challenge Hutton
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:32 PM ET
For me its tough to guess because a lot can happen over the year, but at the moment I think the Canucks are a team that wont be an attractive option to poach from and that Vegas's top 6 D will be pillaged from better options elsewhere. I think depending on who's left to expose, they will lose someone like a Granlund, Etem, Gaunce, that will be depth for the new franchise

EDIT: Someone mentioned it earlier, these guys have a tool for it: http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/expansion

- WhiteLie


Off the top of my head there r not many D available where as Sbisa will be passed on. I could be wrong but atm i believe not.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 7 @ 6:32 PM ET
For me its tough to guess because a lot can happen over the year, but at the moment I think the Canucks are a team that wont be an attractive option to poach from and that Vegas's top 6 D will be pillaged from better options elsewhere. I think depending on who's left to expose, they will lose someone like a Granlund, Etem, Gaunce, that will be depth for the new franchise

EDIT: Someone mentioned it earlier, these guys have a tool for it: http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/expansion

- WhiteLie

Good to know Tryamkin will be exempt. Would've been rough to have him play well this year only to lose him because of Edlers NTC
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 7 @ 6:34 PM ET
A minor concern I have for the expansion draft is if Gilman is selected as the new GM of Vegas that he will have better insight on the Canuck players/prospects. Though there has been considerable turnover, he was still around for some of JB's time and has good insight on the player's relationship with the team from his days negotiating contracts for Gillis. I would be surprised if he was GM that he takes Sbisa or any other poor contract JB handed out
- WhiteLie


The Canucks are in great shape for the expansion draft...the worst player they will lose is Hansen and that is assuming Granlund and Etem become worth protecting. Either way, we aren't losing anybody that important. Teams over loaded with NMC'c and vets will pay the price.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 7 @ 6:35 PM ET
Wasn't it nice of me to make a comment about TO media this morning and leave you guys to answer the Leaf fans


Sorry
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:42 PM ET
Wasn't it nice of me to make a comment about TO media this morning and leave you guys to answer the Leaf fans


Sorry

- VANTEL



My answer is simple.....

Relocate a team to the centre of the universe.
The huge fan base deserves an option other than a moneymaking failure.
IDC about territorial rights nor think the Sabres would be hurt much at all.
If LA & NY can have 2 teams its a no brainer Southern cannot do great with 3.

Healthy rivalry would be a boon instead of this strange & moronic stance the GTA or southern Ontario only 1 team is based there. Best case scenario for owners is relocate say the Canes or FLA to the west & get a huge expansion fee in the GTA region.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 7 @ 6:43 PM ET
Wasn't it nice of me to make a comment about TO media this morning and leave you guys to answer the Leaf fans


Sorry

- VANTEL

We're not talking to you.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 6:44 PM ET
Off the top of my head there r not many D available where as Sbisa will be passed on. I could be wrong but atm i believe not.
- Nighthawk


http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...s-vegas-roster-look-like/

Those guys have a few here.

I think teams like ANA, BUF, CGY, DAL, NSH, SJ and a few others have the potential to provide better value defenseman than Sbisa in age/performance/contract (depending on how many they can protect and who they protect obviously)
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 6:46 PM ET
The Canucks are in great shape for the expansion draft...the worst player they will lose is Hansen and that is assuming Granlund and Etem become worth protecting. Either way, we aren't losing anybody that important. Teams over loaded with NMC'c and vets will pay the price.
- CanuckDon


Oh totally, I like Granlund and Etem so I hope they become worth protecting, but neither them nor any other player eligible to be selected would be franchise altering losses
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:49 PM ET
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...s-vegas-roster-look-like/

Those guys have a few here.

I think teams like ANA, BUF, CGY, DAL, NSH, SJ and a few others have the potential to provide better value defenseman than Sbisa in age/performance/contract (depending on how many they can protect and who they protect obviously)

- WhiteLie



The Ducks R in a bind yes & I see them forced to trade sooner or later.
The JB reference to cap crunch team also applies to the expansion draft next.
Flames R no better off than us.
Dallas to will deal to not lose significant D assets.
Preds have Poile & I always liked him & see him juggling the roster up in advance.
SJ a budget team idk what they will do.

FLA made their D moves earlier but face a problem at F as do TBL
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 6:56 PM ET
The Ducks R in a bind yes & I see them force to trade.
Flames R no better off than us.
Dallas to will deal to not lose significant D assets.
Press have Poole & I always liked him & see him juggling the roster up in advance.
SJ a budget team idk what they will do.

- Nighthawk


Obviously trades will make the difference over the course of the year, but hard to say they can make it all work without the risk of acquiring and exposing something equally valuable to Vegas.

CGY has Gio/Brodie/Wideman/Hamilton all better than Sbisa, plus prospects jokipakka and wotherspoon, if I'm building a team, I would take any over Sbisa either for short term performance or the prospect development

Minnesota is another to watch with Suter, Spurgeon, Brodin, Scandella and Dumba all needing protection. Also Islanders have Boychuk, Leddy, Hamonic, de Hann, and Hickey to protect
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:02 PM ET
Sportsnet says we lose Miller

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...s-vegas-roster-look-like/

- A_SteamingLombardi

Cool then that is all we can lose but I have a feeling Vegas may take Crawford
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:04 PM ET
Cool then that is all we can lose but I have a feeling Vegas may take Crawford
- VANTEL


Jimmy Howard is another potential target I would think. Big sell to have an American olympian backstop America's new team
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
Jimmy Howard is another potential target I would think. Big sell to have an American olympian backstop America's new team
- WhiteLie


Mark Spitz would be a better draw lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:08 PM ET
We're not talking to you.
- Marwood

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