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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
I get the let down of missing out on a forward , but the truth is it takes longer for a Dman to develop so we had to address that first.
- VANTEL


Definitely, I have no doubts Juolevi is worthy of the pick as well, I just got used to the idea of adding a dynamic young forward.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
I get the let down of missing out on a forward , but the truth is it takes longer for a Dman to develop so we had to address that first.
- VANTEL


After we missed on PLD, I was all for Juolevi
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
After we missed on PLD, I was all for Juolevi
- VanHockeyGuy

Ditto.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 2:49 PM ET
After we missed on PLD, I was all for Juolevi
- VanHockeyGuy

I wasn't .

Before the draft I had him ranked Tanev 2.0

After Canucks took him I rank him Doughty 2.0
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
I wasn't .

Before the draft I had him ranked Tanev 2.0

After Canucks took him I rank him Doughty 2.0

- VANTEL

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 2:55 PM ET
I still think Horvat could be their plan. Not impossible for him to succeed the role in a couple years.
- WhatTheNuck

For sure he is, but, as of today, he hasn't show #1 center potential, although it's really early to say. Sean Monahan, on the other hand, has.

And you're 100% correct, it's not impossible for him to succeed in the role of a #1 center.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 10 @ 2:56 PM ET
Hutton is going nowhere
- The_Kuze


I agree. No way they move him. Gudbranson and Hutton will be a great pairing. I could see them considering options with Tanev if they can't move Sbisa. I see Larsen on the roster after reading an article speculating him on the 1st line PP. While he's unproven, he is really good at getting the puck through to the net. He will be given the chance I'm sure. If that's they case you have Tanev and Sbisa on the PK while 5 on 5 be mixed and matched depending on opposition. Although, that kind of limits Tryamkin play time unless they move Sbisa. I can't see them just waiving Sbisa but it's possible they do and hope he gets picked up if a trade can't be made between now and September. I honestly think they are in a good spot but it could go either way in terms of who they keep on the roster. As it stands Pedan would have to have a pretty amazing camp to make a case for any NHL time this year. I see Pedan in Utica this year.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 10 @ 2:58 PM ET
I wasn't .

Before the draft I had him ranked Tanev 2.0

After Canucks took him I rank him Doughty 2.0

- VANTEL


At 6'3 and able to skate at top speed, whatever he is-it isn't Tanev
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 10 @ 2:58 PM ET
I wasn't .

Before the draft I had him ranked Tanev 2.0

After Canucks took him I rank him Doughty 2.0

- VANTEL


At 6'3 and able to skate at top speed, whatever he is-it isn't Tanev
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 10 @ 2:58 PM ET
For sure he is, but, as of today, he hasn't show #1 center potential, although it's really early to say. Sean Monahan, on the other hand, has.

And you're 100% correct, it's not impossible for him to succeed in the role of a #1 center.

- LeftCoaster

He has surpassed a few past #1 centers point productions during their first 2 seasons in the league. If he can continue his rise he for sure be a #1 in the league.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 10 @ 3:01 PM ET
One that has a possible first line center in the system.
- VanHockeyGuy


I agree and that's why the Schenn idea is a good one if it doesn't cost us a 1st round pick as that's where it's likely where we would be able to develop one if we finish higher up that standings. You have Bo as a strong #2 in a couple of years and with D you've OJ in hopefully a few years with still a strong back end and Boeser as a first line wing with Erikson? 2nd line Bo, Virtanen, looking for a scoring winger by then to go along with them.

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:02 PM ET
I agree. No way they move him. Gudbranson and Hutton will be a great pairing. I could see them considering options with Tanev if they can't move Sbisa. I see Larsen on the roster after reading an article speculating him on the 1st line PP. While he's unproven, he is really good at getting the puck through to the net. He will be given the chance I'm sure. If that's they case you have Tanev and Sbisa on the PK while 5 on 5 be mixed and matched depending on opposition. Although, that kind of limits Tryamkin play time unless they move Sbisa. I can't see them just waiving Sbisa but it's possible they do and hope he gets picked up if a trade can't be made between now and September. I honestly think they are in a good spot but it could go either way in terms of who they keep on the roster. As it stands Pedan would have to have a pretty amazing camp to make a case for any NHL time this year. I see Pedan in Utica this year.
- WhatTheNuck


Larsen does have 125 nhl games under his belt, somewhat proven.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 10 @ 3:03 PM ET
After we missed on PLD, I was all for Juolevi
- VanHockeyGuy

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 3:04 PM ET
I wouldn't mind seeing this for 2016

Kane Bo Rodin
JV Sutter Hansen

2017

Kane Bo Boeser
JV Sutter Rodin ( Hansen trade)

- VANTEL



This is why I bust your balls all the time

You've got three left shot guys on one line and three right shot guys on the other, plus, Virtanen, Sutter and Hansen are all shooters, who's gonna pass on that line?

We don't even know if Rodin can play in the NHL, at best he's a third line guy until he proves otherwise, much like Baertschi was last year.

Sutter needs a passer on his line, the only way he can pass the puck is if he hands it to you in a pail. Put Baertschi with him and Kane, Baertschi can play the off wing. Keep Bo and Virtanen together on that third line so you can control their minutes, put Rodin on the left side with them.

Dany Hank Eriksson
Kane Sutter Baertschi
Rodin Horvat Virtanen
Gaunce Granlund Dorsett

Damn it where's Hansen?
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 10 @ 3:05 PM ET
For sure he is, but, as of today, he hasn't show #1 center potential, although it's really early to say. Sean Monahan, on the other hand, has.

And you're 100% correct, it's not impossible for him to succeed in the role of a #1 center.

- LeftCoaster


I think he has shown great leadership qualities with that glimmer of flash worthy of a first line guy. It's limited for sure but if he could bag 50+ points next year I'd advocate for him to be a successor. Do you know who Monahan had on his wings compared to Horvat? How much has his defense played a role on his point production? I'm willing to bet Horvat has a good 3rd year if we can find some chemistry with Rodin and Baertschi. This is where I think WD will be pressured to give him more opportunities to score instead of having him in tough matchups all year.

Baertschi-Horvat-Rodin is a 3rd line I'd like to see.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:05 PM ET
I agree and that's why the Schenn idea is a good one if it doesn't cost us a 1st round pick as that's where it's likely where we would be able to develop one if we finish higher up that standings. You have Bo as a strong #2 in a couple of years and with D you've OJ in hopefully a few years with still a strong back end and Boeser as a first line wing with Erikson? 2nd line Bo, Virtanen, looking for a scoring winger by then to go along with them.
- allsports


JB would have to listen if he was being shopped, for sure.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 10 @ 3:07 PM ET


This is why I bust your balls all the time

You've got three left shot guys on one line and three right shot guys on the other, plus, Virtanen, Sutter and Hansen are all shooters, who's gonna pass on that line?

We don't even know if Rodin can play in the NHL, at best he's a third line guy until he proves otherwise, much like Baertschi was last year.

Sutter needs a passer on his line, the only way he can pass the puck us if he hands it to you in a pail. Put Baertschi with him and Kane, Baertschi can play the off wing. Keep Bo and Virtanen together on that third line so you can control their minutes, put Rodin on the left side with them.

Dany Hank Eriksson
Kane Sutter Baertschi
Rodin Horvat Virtanen
Gaunce Granlund Dorsett

Damn it where's Hansen?

- LeftCoaster


I'll will almost bet money JV starts in Utica. He won't be gifted a roster spot like last year.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 3:07 PM ET
He has surpassed a few past #1 centers point productions during their first 2 seasons in the league. If he can continue his rise he for sure be a #1 in the league.
- thundachunk

To me, it's irrelevant, he could continue to progress, slide, or remain where he's at. Until he proves it, he remains a question mark. As a manager you've gotta plan for the worst and hope for the best. Which means you continue to search for someone to play above him.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:09 PM ET
As much as Bo is called an "untouchable", one would have to think he's available in the right deal.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 10 @ 3:09 PM ET


This is why I bust your balls all the time

You've got three left shot guys on one line and three right shot guys on the other, plus, Virtanen, Sutter and Hansen are all shooters, who's gonna pass on that line?

We don't even know if Rodin can play in the NHL, at best he's a third line guy until he proves otherwise, much like Baertschi was last year.

Sutter needs a passer on his line, the only way he can pass the puck us if he hands it to you in a pail. Put Baertschi with him and Kane, Baertschi can play the off wing. Keep Bo and Virtanen together on that third line so you can control their minutes, put Rodin on the left side with them.

Dany Hank Eriksson
Kane Sutter Baertschi
Rodin Horvat Virtanen
Gaunce Granlund Dorsett

Damn it where's Hansen?

- LeftCoaster


Rotating in with Gaunce and Gran under but thinking he really takes Gaunce spot
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:09 PM ET
To me, it's irrelevant, he could continue to progress, slide, or remain where he's at. Until he proves it, he remains a question mark. As a manager you've gotta plan for the worst and hope for the best. Which means you continue to search for someone to play above him.
- LeftCoaster


Nailed it Lefty.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 3:10 PM ET
I think he has shown great leadership qualities with that glimmer of flash worthy of a first line guy. It's limited for sure but if he could bag 50+ points next year I'd advocate for him to be a successor. Do you know who Monahan had on his wings compared to Horvat? How much has his defense played a role on his point production? I'm willing to bet Horvat has a good 3rd year if we can find some chemistry with Rodin and Baertschi. This is where I think WD will be pressured to give him more opportunities to score instead of having him in tough matchups all year.

Baertschi-Horvat-Rodin is a 3rd line I'd like to see.

- WhatTheNuck

I sincerely hope he gets better minutes and turns in a 50+ point season, trust me!
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 10 @ 3:11 PM ET
I'll will almost bet money JV starts in Utica. He won't be gifted a roster spot like last year.
- WhatTheNuck


This was my original thought as well and my preference but you never know with Linbenning
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 3:13 PM ET
I'll will almost bet money JV starts in Utica. He won't be gifted a roster spot like last year.
- WhatTheNuck

I would take that bet in a heartbeat!! Virtanen, drove possession last year, led the team. He plays a heavy game, something the Canucks don't have! He'd have to have an extremely poor camp for him to go down IMO.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 3:14 PM ET


This is why I bust your balls all the time

You've got three left shot guys on one line and three right shot guys on the other, plus, Virtanen, Sutter and Hansen are all shooters, who's gonna pass on that line?

We don't even know if Rodin can play in the NHL, at best he's a third line guy until he proves otherwise, much like Baertschi was last year.

Sutter needs a passer on his line, the only way he can pass the puck is if he hands it to you in a pail. Put Baertschi with him and Kane, Baertschi can play the off wing. Keep Bo and Virtanen together on that third line so you can control their minutes, put Rodin on the left side with them.

Dany Hank Eriksson
Kane Sutter Baertschi
Rodin Horvat Virtanen
Gaunce Granlund Dorsett

Damn it where's Hansen?

- LeftCoaster


http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=120281

Rodin is a lef hand shot that plays RW, just like Tryamkin.

JV plays both wings and if h wants to play top 6 he better learn LW because Eriksson is signed for 6 years and Boeser arrives next year. JV played both sides last year
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