Schenn brings the grit that JV brings , out scores him by a mile, and can be a top 6 center. I am sure while you are saying this is too much , fans from other fan bases are saying it is not enough.

Kane is better than Sven . Period. If you get Kane you do not need Sven . If you could replace Hutton with Sbisa sure , I was just building off the suggested trade proposal from earlier about Hutton for Kane.
- VANTEL

Two top 10 pics and a high second is too much....draft and develop

Two top 10 pics and a high second is too much....draft and develop
- CanuckDon

Schenn was a fifth overall. Same as a player like Drouin the cost will be high.

Unlike most here I doubt Canucks are getting a top 10 pick next year.

Schenn brings the grit that JV brings , out scores him by a mile, and can be a top 6 center. I am sure while you are saying this is too much , fans from other fan bases are saying it is not enough.

Kane is better than Sven . Period. If you get Kane you do not need Sven . If you could replace Hutton with Sbisa sure , I was just building off the suggested trade proposal from earlier about Hutton for Kane.
- VANTEL

I'm no saying it's too much in terms of the trade value. I'm coming back to why would we think that's a better plan? I understand what they bring but if it didn't pan out then we are in a worse spot then now. Virtanen and Hutton have only played 1 season.

Schenn was a fifth overall. Same as a player like Drouin the cost will be high.

Unlike most here I doubt Canucks are getting a top 10 pick next year.
- VANTEL

I would trade Hutton, as PART of a deal, for Schenn in a heartbeat before I'd trade him for Kane.

I'd love to have Kane, but only at a severe discount because of the issues he's had in TWO places now.

I would trade Hutton, as PART of a deal, for Schenn in a heartbeat before I'd trade him for Kane.

I'd love to have Kane, but only at a severe discount because of the issues he's had in TWO places now.
- LeftCoaster

Third times a charm


Flyers have a good supply of young D already

Schenn was a fifth overall. Same as a player like Drouin the cost will be high.

Unlike most here I doubt Canucks are getting a top 10 pick next year.
- VANTEL

barring significant injuries which unfortunately seem to be a staple of Canuck seasons to date. It would be curious to see just how many more man games the Canucks have lost to injury as compared to other teams. If anything, I'm sure the differences between the East and West teams are significant.

Just curious and thus throwing this out there - what if Kane didn't have any off-ice issues, what would his value be worth then? and what sort of package would need to be put together in order to snag him? you would think that, at some point, he will mature and outgrow the negative behaviour that he's been involved with to date. Hence, why wouldn't Buffalo try and wait things out a little further before making any move, so any deal would at least somewhat reflect his talent level? at this point in time, you have to believe his value is so low that there is no where to go but up? is more patience justified? or is it a pipe dream to think he will change his ways (note that he is still a kid for all intents and purposes and with the right situation would surely be worth bringing in as a reclamation project -especially given his ties to Vancouver, his parents, and idolatry of Linden in providing a stable and positive environment)
- Zogg

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The only way you entertain a Kane trade, is if you get him at a serious discount. They want to move him, they accept the discounted price!

Just curious and thus throwing this out there - what if Kane didn't have any off-ice issues, what would his value be worth then? and what sort of package would need to be put together in order to snag him? you would think that, at some point, he will mature and outgrow the negative behaviour that he's been involved with to date. Hence, why wouldn't Buffalo try and wait things out a little further before making any move, so any deal would at least somewhat reflect his talent level? at this point in time, you have to believe his value is so low that there is no where to go but up? is more patience justified? or is it a pipe dream to think he will change his ways (note that he is still a kid for all intents and purposes and with the right situation would surely be worth bringing in as a reclamation project -especially given his ties to Vancouver, his parents, and idolatry of Linden in providing a stable and positive environment)
- Zogg

I agree they could hold onto him in hopes of him getting better and increasing his value. However, Buffalo is getting close to starting to make some noise. Kane didn't play all that spectacular last year and it could also go the other way entirely with him walking away in 2 years. I'm sure they explore options to see if they can improve now and make the playoffs. Buffalo could also use an upgrade on defense.

Third times a charm


Flyers have a good supply of young D already
- VANTEL

one could only hope…I guess?

one could only hope…I guess?
- LeftCoaster

The Canucks badly need to win a trade in the next year. The only piece I see they do that with is Tanev. It would leave a hole for sure and I don't even know how they fill it but he is the on guy worth something wih a reasonable cap hit that has modified NTC kicking in on July 1st 2017.

I could see him being traded if we aren't a playoff team by TDL as most advocate we won't be.

one could only hope…I guess?
- LeftCoaster

The funny thing is what I am suggesting is very similar to what the Kings did to obtain Richards and Carter.

LA traded their fifth over all who hadn't yet play a full season for them for Carter( Schenn) and traded for troubled player Richards ( Kane)

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The only way you entertain a Kane trade, is if you get him at a serious discount. They want to move him, they accept the discounted price!
- LeftCoaster

That's why I'm saying that Buffalo may want to continue to remain patient (apparently Murray is in the process of having a one on one chat with Kane to see if there might be a way to overcome his off-ice behavioural problems). The point being, Kane is a legitimate thirty goal scorer with still untapped potential, as well as bringing in grit and toughness (all at a very young age). These types of players aren't just given away for free. You know Buffalo would be roasted if they simply traded him for a bag of pucks, as much as Vancouver fans would love that, it's just not being realistic.

P.s. don't be a @#$@# grammar/paragraph nazi, in the end it's all about disseminating information, for gawd sakes

The Canucks badly need to win a trade in the next year. The only piece I see they do that with is Tanev. It would leave a hole for sure and I don't even know how they fill it but he is the on guy worth something wih a reasonable cap hit that has modified NTC kicking in on July 1st 2017.

I could see him being traded if we aren't a playoff team by TDL as most advocate we won't be.
- WhatTheNuck

Tanev will be the defensive leader on this team once he forgets about grandmas cookies

I would trade Hutton, as PART of a deal, for Schenn in a heartbeat before I'd trade him for Kane.

I'd love to have Kane, but only at a severe discount because of the issues he's had in TWO places now.
- LeftCoaster

For sure, Schenn is a potential replacement for Henrik for which we don't have anyone in the system near term and if we try to draft one it'll take a few years at least to develop.

For sure, Schenn is a potential replacement for Henrik for which we don't have anyone in the system near term and if we try to draft one it'll take a few years at least to develop.
- allsports

Schenn Simmonds and Jack Johnson for Carter and Richards. That was before Kopitar was Kopitar .

Sometimes you need to crack a few eggs to make an omelet .

Schenn Simmonds and Jack Johnson for Carter and Richards. That was before Kopitar was Kopitar .

Sometimes you need to crack a few eggs to make an omelet .
- VANTEL

Couldn't we define that as a hockey trade though. Aren't they all happy?

Couldn't we define that as a hockey trade though. Aren't they all happy?
- allsports

That was a hockey trade . Both sides were happy.

Flyers won't trade us Schenn for Hansen and Sbisa so if we do want that type of player on our team we would need to dig a lot deeper

SChen for Edler 1 for 1 I'll do it right now

SChen for Edler 1 for 1 I'll do it right now
- The_Kuze

We aren't going to win with Edler here and he's what 29 30 move him now for a good young center. Kills our de thisbyear but best in the long run

That was a hockey trade . Both sides were happy.

Flyers won't trade us Schenn for Hansen and Sbisa so if we do want that type of player on our team we would need to dig a lot deeper
- VANTEL

I agree that's why I said for you to sign Shipachyov and include him in a package with Sven and get Schenn.

The funny thing is what I am suggesting is very similar to what the Kings did to obtain Richards and Carter.

LA traded their fifth over all who hadn't yet play a full season for them for Carter( Schenn) and traded for troubled player Richards ( Kane)
- VANTEL

Huge difference though, Brayden Schenn JUST put up a good offensive season with 59 points. When Richards went to LA he'd already put up 66, 62, 80 & 75 points in consecutive years. Same with Carter when he went to Columbus, he'd already scored 46 goals and had 23, 29, 33 & 36 goal seasons.

Brayden Schenn isn't in that league yet.

That's why I'm saying that Buffalo may want to continue to remain patient (apparently Murray is in the process of having a one on one chat with Kane to see if there might be a way to overcome his off-ice behavioural problems). The point being, Kane is a legitimate thirty goal scorer with still untapped potential, as well as bringing in grit and toughness (all at a very young age). These types of players aren't just given away for free. You know Buffalo would be roasted if they simply traded him for a bag of pucks, as much as Vancouver fans would love that, it's just not being realistic.

P.s. don't be a @#$@# grammar/paragraph nazi, in the end it's all about disseminating information, for gawd sakes
- Zogg

Ya I agree, he won't discount him but that's the ONLY way I'd proceed there. If not, I'm not interested.

LOL one big run-on paragraph is just hard to break down is all.

That was a hockey trade . Both sides were happy.

Flyers won't trade us Schenn for Hansen and Sbisa so if we do want that type of player on our team we would need to dig a lot deeper
- VANTEL

What am I missing? Why does Philly want to unload Schenn?

What am I missing? Why does Philly want to unload Schenn?
- CanuckDon

Because we want him

Huge difference though, Brayden Schenn JUST put up a good offensive season with 59 points. When Richards went to LA he'd already put up 66, 62, 80 & 75 points in consecutive years. Same with Carter when he went to Columbus, he'd already scored 46 goals and had 23, 29, 33 & 36 goal seasons.

Brayden Schenn isn't in that league yet.
- LeftCoaster

Yes too many ppl willing to upheave the roster over 1 season.
Schenn has not proven a 1C but 2C yes.