allsports
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.17.2015
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What am I missing? Why does Philly want to unload Schenn? - CanuckDon
Philly doesn't want to pay him. |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Because we want him - LeftCoaster
(frank) I'm glad I'm drinking... |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Hank will be around for 3-4 seasons so plenty of time to find/draft/develop a 1C.
Not saying its easy but no need to force a deal.
D has improved and with prospects also in the system.
Goal is well taken care of.
Need to draft more F's & fill up the cupboard more til the right deal presents itself. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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He struggles with not deviating from his plan during a game. - VanHockeyGuy
exactly.
and when you look at any cup winning team they always have a coach that knows how to swiftly change a game. You cant win without it. WD is probably the worst coach I have ever seen at that aspect.
As said by the poster you responded to the system needs to change. Actually its lack of a defensive system. We need 1.
Jarvis was a defensive guy as an assistant, lets hope he can add that to this team |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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allsports
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.17.2015
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Huge difference though, Brayden Schenn JUST put up a good offensive season with 59 points. When Richards went to LA he'd already put up 66, 62, 80 & 75 points in consecutive years. Same with Carter when he went to Columbus, he'd already scored 46 goals and had 23, 29, 33 & 36 goal seasons.
Brayden Schenn isn't in that league yet. - LeftCoaster
He may not be hard to tell because when Richards and Carter put up those numbers in Philly the league was also scoring more. Hate that the NHL is slow to try to get scoring back up.
Schenn put up good last half season numbers and has progressed though just behind Mackinnon and Scheiffle numbers. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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exactly.
and when you look at any cup winning team they always have a coach that knows how to swiftly change a game. You cant win without it. WD is probably the worst coach I have ever seen at that aspect.
As said by the poster you responded to the system needs to change. Actually its lack of a defensive system. We need 1.
Jarvis was a defensive guy as an assistant, lets hope he can add that to this team - SMBDragon
Adding EG & Loui will help a lot. |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Schenn was a fifth overall. Same as a player like Drouin the cost will be high.
Unlike most here I doubt Canucks are getting a top 10 pick next year. - VANTEL
agree I think we will be picking somewhere from 11-17 |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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SChen for Edler 1 for 1 I'll do it right now - The_Kuze
In a heartbeat. |
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Huge difference though, Brayden Schenn JUST put up a good offensive season with 59 points. When Richards went to LA he'd already put up 66, 62, 80 & 75 points in consecutive years. Same with Carter when he went to Columbus, he'd already scored 46 goals and had 23, 29, 33 & 36 goal seasons.
Brayden Schenn isn't in that league yet. - LeftCoaster
He is still young he can build on those numbers. |
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What am I missing? Why does Philly want to unload Schenn? - CanuckDon
They are nowhere near agreement in salary |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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They are nowhere near agreement in salary - VANTEL
Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in? |
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allsports
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.17.2015
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Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in? - LordHumungous
Above at least $5m, probably looking for more but if you look at how much Mackinnon and Scheiffle just got over $6m per year he's not there but not far behind either. |
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Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in? - LordHumungous
They have a lot of good young D so it would need to be a forward.
My two untouchables are Bo and Boeser on the forwards. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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agree I think we will be picking somewhere from 11-17 - LordHumungous
This is highly probable.
That said accumulating assets as we have can be in a deal to move up next draft or not. I see trades & UFA's being in the near future or next offseason. UFA market is slim atm but with expansion coming patience is best. JB will have cap space next year & what he does with it will be important. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in? - LordHumungous
5.5m max but assets going to Philly is a sticking point IMO
Also i am not on board that he is a 1C. |
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Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in? - LordHumungous
Personally I think he is only worth about 4.5 million per over the next 2- 3 years. I think we need to see more from him. If he is asking Mackinnon, Schielfie and Hall money he isn't there. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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He is still young he can build on those numbers. - VANTEL
For sure...but he's not worth what those guys were at the time. |
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They have a lot of good young D so it would need to be a forward.
My two untouchables are Bo and Boeser on the forwards. - VANTEL
No such thing in my vocabulary. |
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5.5m max but assets going to Philly is a sticking point IMO
Also i am not on board that he is a 1C. - Nighthawk
I am not either. |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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No such thing in my vocabulary. - thundachunk
silly to get attached to players, they are all a commodity. First round draft picks are another story though |
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No such thing in my vocabulary. - thundachunk
I think Bo is the new face of the franchise |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Personally I think he is only worth about 4.5 million per over the next 2- 3 years. I think we need to see more from him. If he is asking Mackinnon, Schielfie and Hall money he isn't there. - thundachunk
Strangely enough they paid Couturier 4.3 million per over the next six years. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I think Bo is the new face of the franchise - VANTEL
Loaded with character & a fixture here for us. |
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Zogg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.16.2005
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I think Bo is the new face of the franchise - VANTEL
He will be the next captain of the Canucks |
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