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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 11 @ 10:47 AM ET
I would chalk it down to maturity issues not commitment issues, he's still a teenager. I don't know many teenagers who've got their collective poop together. This is why having the veterans around helps them tremendously.
- LeftCoaster

Bingo!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:54 AM ET
Yup I would agree with that. Just read an article on the province making a pitch for Horvat to get the A now that Hamhuis is gone. I think it would probably be a good thing considering everybody already wants him to be our next captain, but is it too early?
- NorthNuck


Premature for an A yes
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:01 AM ET
Premature for an A yes
- Nighthawk


Yes, I'd wait another year at least (since it'll be the last year of the Sedins current contract) and find out the Sedins plans whether they want to retire at the end of the year or sign an extension for another couple of years. That's the time to put the "A" on Horvat, when you know if you need to transition quickly from the Sedins or if you have a few years still for everyone to gain experience/maturity.

Horvat doesn't need the responsibility right now, let him work himself into being a capable 2C by the end of the year with a full year of Sutter to take the pressure off of him and then he should be ready to take the next step, including being part of a new leadership group.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 11 @ 11:11 AM ET
Premature for an A yes
- Nighthawk

I don't think so.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
Premature for an A yes
- Nighthawk


I dont think its too premature for an A. He has already shown dedication and maturity in his demeanor and play. Letter or not, he is already the leader of the youth, of which there are more coming each season, its a good time to get him used to and embracing it while the Sedin's are around to support him IMO
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 11 @ 11:21 AM ET
Burrows wiLl get the A
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 11 @ 11:34 AM ET
I dont think its too premature for an A. He has already shown dedication and maturity in his demeanor and play. Letter or not, he is already the leader of the youth, of which there are more coming each season, its a good time to get him used to and embracing it while the Sedin's are around to support him IMO
- WhiteLie

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 11 @ 11:35 AM ET
Burrows wiLl get the A
- The_Kuze

The A in Utica?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 11 @ 11:35 AM ET
Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing Burrows get it, there's also a chance it goes to Edler or Tanev as there is no Dman represented in leadership.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 11 @ 11:36 AM ET
Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing Burrows get it, there's also a chance it goes to Edler or Tanev as there is no Dman represented in leadership.
- NorthNuck

If it goes to a Dman it will be Gubrannson.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 11 @ 11:43 AM ET
If it goes to a Dman it will be Gubrannson.
- Marwood
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 11 @ 11:48 AM ET
If it goes to a Dman it will be Gubrannson.
- Marwood

In his first year?
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 11 @ 12:02 PM ET
In his first year?
- NorthNuck


I think he will get it. He was known for his leadership qualities and they talked about him being a future captain. I think if all that's true it won't take long for the guys to see it. Totally possible.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 11 @ 12:03 PM ET
Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing Burrows get it, there's also a chance it goes to Edler or Tanev as there is no Dman represented in leadership.
- NorthNuck


The problem with Tanev or Edler is that they are both quiet. That doesn't bother me per se, but you want the letters to be more than token gestures, you want them to mean something. Hamhuis was quiet as well, but every time a new player joined the team you'd hear about Hamhius inviting him to dinner with his family. That's leadership. I can't really see Tanev or Edler doing that.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:07 PM ET
Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing Burrows get it, there's also a chance it goes to Edler or Tanev as there is no Dman represented in leadership.
- NorthNuck


Apparently he had one last year with Hamhuis and Daniel, which shows how glued to Canucks games we all were last year

As for the Edler/Tanev, we are not privy to the inner dynamics of the team, they could be excellent leaders and mentors in the room/meetings/road trips so I would be fine with them, except I just dont see them handling the interview portions very well (particularly Edler). Also my personal preference is to not have the majority of your leadership group on the first line/unit, just is weird to me
WhiteLie
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Jul 11 @ 12:08 PM ET
The problem with Tanev or Edler is that they are both quiet. That doesn't bother me per se, but you want the letters to be more than token gestures, you want them to mean something. Hamhuis was quiet as well, but every time a new player joined the team you'd hear about Hamhius inviting him to dinner with his family. That's leadership. I can't really see Tanev or Edler doing that.
- CubanBuffet


My same thoughts, though Tanev was pretty good about spending time with Virtanen and Hutton this past year so I give him the darkhorse shot at an A

I would not be the least bit surprised of Dorsett gets one, or if he gets Burrows' once he moves on
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:24 PM ET
ROR charges for his Drunk In Donuts Drive Though dropped

Patty ( Cake) Kane charges for sexual assault and beating a taxi driver dropped.

I don't know why Evander ( Mo Money ) Kane should be worried, if you play hockey, in Buffalo you can do anything.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 11 @ 12:30 PM ET
Yup I would agree with that. Just read an article on the province making a pitch for Horvat to get the A now that Hamhuis is gone. I think it would probably be a good thing considering everybody already wants him to be our next captain, but is it too early?
- NorthNuck

Horvat is ready for the A.
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 11 @ 12:36 PM ET
Burrows wiLl get the A
- The_Kuze

He should have one of them
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:39 PM ET
Anyone saying give Burrows the A , give your head a shake. Two weeks ago we thought he was going to be bought out. He is part of every other trade proposal . He will probably spend most nights in the press box.

Alex we are giving you the A , by the way you are a healthy scratch tonight.

Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
ROR charges for his Drunk In Donuts Drive Though dropped

Patty ( Cake) Kane charges for sexual assault and beating a taxi driver dropped.

I don't know why Evander ( Mo Money ) Kane should be worried, if you play hockey, in Buffalo you can do anything.

- VANTEL



ROR's charges were in Ontario. I think this is more Eastern Judicial Bias
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
Anyone saying give Burrows the A , give your head a shake. Two weeks ago we thought he was going to be bought out. He is part of every other trade proposal . He will probably spend most nights in the press box.

Alex we are giving you the A , by the way you are a healthy scratch tonight.

- VANTEL


Agreed, I am still hoping he is moved somehow. He is the last member of the old core that can't produce anymore.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 11 @ 12:45 PM ET
Anyone saying give Burrows the A , give your head a shake. Two weeks ago we thought he was going to be bought out. He is part of every other trade proposal . He will probably spend most nights in the press box.

Alex we are giving you the A , by the way you are a healthy scratch tonight.

- VANTEL

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 11 @ 12:45 PM ET
On another more important note, does anyone know what Austin Matthew's had for breakfast?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 11 @ 12:47 PM ET
Anyone saying give Burrows the A , give your head a shake. Two weeks ago we thought he was going to be bought out. He is part of every other trade proposal . He will probably spend most nights in the press box.

Alex we are giving you the A , by the way you are a healthy scratch tonight.

- VANTEL

I never once thought he would be bought out. It never made logical sense for management to do that. Also, he is still serviceable as an NHL player, I think he will have a better year this year than last. Hopefully ready to retire at the end of it.
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