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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Are Jiri Hudler, Vadim Shipachyov Free Agent Targets?
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Vanoxy
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!!!!
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jul 9 @ 12:54 PM ET
Probably because they will only have one line that can score with consistency.
- fiveandagame


If Willie continues to roll 4 lines, that's true.

I hope he will smarten up, and build a defensive zone faceoff line of Burrows/Etem - Sutter - Hansen. To take the tough assignments.

That would allow a Baer - Horvat -Rodin/Virtanen line to play sheltered minutes with easier assignments, which could evolve into a solid secondary scoring unit.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
60 pts in 54 KHL games. KHL is second only to NHL in terms of talent. If he could put up around 60pts in 82 games in the NHL, i'd say that solved our problem of 2c.
- Retinalz


I get where you're coming from but you're reaching pretty early. The way I see it is, if they sign him then they have an even bigger issue with forwards.

I love what Benning is doing though. Trying to find a needle in a haystack. JB is building his very own haystack.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
Wille Desjardins needs to be a better coach and employ a much different system is they hope to improve defensively. Lets hope he does.
- LeftCoaster


I hope he does too. I think he is a decent coach but I haven't seen anything from him in the last 2 years that's makes me think he really dynamic. With that said this years roster will be the best one he has had to work with yet so here's to hoping.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Penticton/Mexico
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
Wille Desjardins needs to be a better coach and employ a much different system is they hope to improve defensively. Lets hope he does.
- LeftCoaster


He struggles with not deviating from his plan during a game.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 9 @ 12:56 PM ET
If Willie continues to roll 4 lines, that's true.

I hope he will smarten up, and build a defensive zone faceoff line of Burrows/Etem - Sutter - Hansen. To take the tough assignments.

That would allow a Baer - Horvat -Rodin/Virtanen line to play sheltered minutes with easier assignments, which could evolve into a solid secondary scoring unit.

- Vanoxy


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:01 PM ET
Shippy is a long shot.

Hudler is a dumb shot.

Canucks playing a more defensive type game is a no shot.

Boeser is a hot shot.

Gudbrandson and Tryamkin are big shots.

Tanev still has no shot.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
Shippy is a long shot.

Hudler is a dumb shot.

Canucks playing a more defensive type game is a no shot.

Boeser is a hot shot.

Gudbrandson and Tryamkin are big shots.

- VANTEL

....... Well done!!
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
He struggles with not deviating from his plan during a game.
- VanHockeyGuy


I'd be interested to compare the two years he has been here and try and find differences in what he tried to do. I think last year was pretty obvious tanking and because WD had all these new faces he just rolled through the lines to get most guys some ice time and experiences.

I can't fault WD for last year and he will definitely be under more scrutiny this year then ever before. Is it his fault? Definitely has to take some of the blame but I'll wait until next year before I judge any more.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'd be interested to compare the two years he has been here and try and find differences in what he tried to do. I think last year was pretty obvious tanking and because WD had all these new faces he just rolled through the lines to get most guys some ice time and experiences.

I can't fault WD for last year and he will definitely be under more scrutiny this year then ever before. Is it his fault? Definitely has to take some of the blame but I'll wait until next year before I judge any more.

- WhatTheNuck

Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET

The Sedins w Hudler could be pretty dangerous. Hope they sign him.

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
The Sedins w Hudler could be pretty dangerous. Hope they sign him.
- Razzdazzle1

WTF?
They just signed Erikkson for that reason. Why would a Flames fan care?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 9 @ 1:26 PM ET
WTF?
They just signed Erikkson for that reason. Why would a Flames fan care?

- Marwood

He wants us to suck next year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
He struggles with not deviating from his plan during a game.
- VanHockeyGuy

He struggles asserting his own teams game plan even.
Thunder_daddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Van isle ferda, BC
Joined: 09.06.2015

Jul 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
Hopefully both rumours continue to stay as rumours because both are not good ideas.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
Daniel Henrik Eriksson
Shipachyov Sutter Virtanen
Baertschi Horvat Hansen
Burrows Granlund Dorsett

Yes I know that Vadim is a center but I'm willing to bet that Sutter is probably better on the face-offs and better defensive.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
Daniel Henrik Eriksson
Shipachyov Sutter Virtanen
Baertschi Horvat Hansen
Burrows Granlund Dorsett

Yes I know that Vadim is a center but I'm willing to bet that Sutter is probably better on the face-offs and better defensive.

- manvanfan

I just went through a team by team trade scenario, looked at at all UFAs and I think the best target is Landeskog.

It would be costly , but I would entertain proposals.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
I'd be interested to compare the two years he has been here and try and find differences in what he tried to do. I think last year was pretty obvious tanking and because WD had all these new faces he just rolled through the lines to get most guys some ice time and experiences.

I can't fault WD for last year and he will definitely be under more scrutiny this year then ever before. Is it his fault? Definitely has to take some of the blame but I'll wait until next year before I judge any more.

- WhatTheNuck


I'll agree that WD deserves more time but no way was he or the team tanking last season, every move they made during the season was pretty clearly an attempt to stay in the playoff race.

WD didn't change his systems or personnel deployment at all between the two seasons and don't expect it to change much this year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
I'll agree that WD deserves more time but no way was he or the team tanking last season, every move they made during the season was pretty clearly an attempt to stay in the playoff race.

WD didn't change his systems or personnel deployment at all between the two seasons and don't expect it to change much this year.

- belcherbd

Benning tanked the line up
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
I just went through a team by team trade scenario, looked at at all UFAs and I think the best target is Landeskog.

It would be costly , but I would entertain proposals.

- VANTEL

So what would a trade look like to get landeskog? As previous recent trades show Tanev for Landeskog straight up is not far off?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Penticton/Mexico
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
WTF?
They just signed Erikkson for that reason. Why would a Flames fan care?

- Marwood


Trolling.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Penticton/Mexico
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
So what would a trade look like to get landeskog? As previous recent trades show Tanev for Landeskog straight up is not far off?
- manvanfan


in a minute
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:16 PM ET
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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
So what would a trade look like to get landeskog? As previous recent trades show Tanev for Landeskog straight up is not far off?
- manvanfan

I would try Hutton ( Stetcher replaces) Sven , Canucks second and if I had to CBJs second .


Or if Edler waived one for one
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
in a minute
- VanHockeyGuy

Brayden Schenn is someone who I think could fill in nicely on the second line LW and since he's a C also fill in when Sutter gets hurt.
Him and Philly nowhere near close on a deal. Cost for him probably a bit less then Landeskog. Relatively close in similar playing styles but Schenn took longer to develop.

I just watched the Stecher and Boeser Mic'd up. Those 2 are definitely heads above a lot of the other prospects. Stecher can really walk the line. The next Tyson Barrie or Ryan Ellis or Torey Krug!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:24 PM ET
I would try Hutton ( Stetcher replaces) Sven , Canucks second and if I had to CBJs second .


Or if Edler waived one for one

- VANTEL

Would need to give up a salary in return. Hutton's contract is still tiny. Edler, Tanev would have to go back. Stecher is a R so Tanev could be replaced and everyone moves up. Tree also has said he can play the right.
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