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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 13 @ 3:39 PM ET
Want to bet next years pick is a center?
- VANTEL

You're a glutton for punishment
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 13 @ 3:39 PM ET
the 2014 draft may go down as the Canucks best draft ever.

Virtanen
MaCann = Gudbranson
Demko
Tryamkin

a top six forward PF, two potential top 4 d-men and a goalie who looks like he has a chance to be a solid #1.... that's pretty spectacular if you ask me.

- Mungo

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 13 @ 3:40 PM ET
Want to bet next years pick is a center?
- VANTEL

I hope so....the organization really needs one.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 13 @ 3:42 PM ET
The damned eastern media has taken over The Province!!
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 13 @ 3:46 PM ET
dp
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 3:47 PM ET
You're a glutton for punishment
- A_SteamingLombardi

I knew you were out there

My bets have made 90 dollars to charity. I paid 30 and won 60 . That's a good cause
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 3:49 PM ET
I hope so....the organization really needs one.
- LeftCoaster

We seem to be set in D now and Goalies are good for a few years . Now work on the front end
whales
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 05.27.2008

Jul 13 @ 3:51 PM ET
Giving them a low ranking for Vision I think is also unfair.

Benning has stated his vision:

1. restock the prospect pipeline
2. fill the 24 year old (ish) player gap
3. add overall depth
4. build from the back and up the middle
5. aim to make the playoffs every year

Considering where he started ... I'm happy.

I don't get the whole "tear it down - tank" idea. Who has that worked for?

Chicago is always held up as an example. But I don't think they ever "tanked" on purpose. They just sucked for a while and got some exceptional picks.



A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 13 @ 3:53 PM ET
We seem to be set in D now and Goalies are good for a few years . Now work on the front end
- VANTEL

We still need an offensive D-man or 2, someone to QB the PP.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 4:00 PM ET
We still need an offensive D-man or 2, someone to QB the PP.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Brisebois reminds me of Hamhuis style. Stetcher I think is going to surprise , I think he will be called up on injury and could win a spot. He has some decent skills.

Juolevi I thought looked like Tanev but many here say he has a very good offensive game. I still think we need a trigger man on D
VIRTBOHUT
Location: kelowna, BC
Joined: 12.02.2015

Jul 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
We still need an offensive D-man or 2, someone to QB the PP.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I think it's fair to give Larson a shot at that, and if it fails miserably we'll be looking at making some moves. Problem there is that any defensive trades are probably lopsided as h*ll. I could see a poor powerplay affecting the outcomes of the season pretty heavily. Hoping the Eriksson Sedin connection is strong, and maybe Louie will help Edler with some more options for passing, puck retrieval and exposing defensive breakdowns.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 13 @ 4:03 PM ET
We still need an offensive D-man or 2, someone to QB the PP.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I want to say we are set in goal, but still need to address top line forwards and top pairing dmen in future drafts. and every team is looking to make these picks.

I think our d is much improved from last year at this time. just want to see what they look like in the fall.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 13 @ 4:04 PM ET
I think it's fair to give Larson a shot at that, and if it fails miserably we'll be looking at making some moves. Problem there is that any defensive trades are probably lopsided as h*ll. I could see a poor powerplay affecting the outcomes of the season pretty heavily. Hoping the Eriksson Sedin connection is strong, and maybe Louie will help Edler with some more options for passing, puck retrieval and exposing defensive breakdowns.
- VIRTBOHUT

Please keep Edler off the PP . He is stuck in 1967
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 13 @ 4:07 PM ET
Brisebois reminds me of Hamhuis style. Stetcher I think is going to surprise , I think he will be called up on injury and could win a spot. He has some decent skills.

Juolevi I thought looked like Tanev but many here say he has a very good offensive game. I still think we need a trigger man on D

- VANTEL

I have high hopes for Larsen, training camp will be interesting.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
I think it's fair to give Larson a shot at that, and if it fails miserably we'll be looking at making some moves. Problem there is that any defensive trades are probably lopsided as h*ll. I could see a poor powerplay affecting the outcomes of the season pretty heavily. Hoping the Eriksson Sedin connection is strong, and maybe Louie will help Edler with some more options for passing, puck retrieval and exposing defensive breakdowns.
- VIRTBOHUT

I think Larson should be show cased and sold at TDL. He has pro exp, which means we could lose him at expansion draft. If he puts up good PP numbers he would get taken.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jul 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
Please keep Edler off the PP . He is stuck in 1967
- VANTEL



i think it's before then.... like when you could only pass backwards in hockey
VIRTBOHUT
Location: kelowna, BC
Joined: 12.02.2015

Jul 13 @ 4:12 PM ET
Please keep Edler off the PP . He is stuck in 1967
- VANTEL


It's painful to watch him man the point. No confidence, no flair for the unexpected... and block after block.. Someone show him some SUBBAN highlights. Or does Edler watch TV, he reminds of someone who would read chemistry texts for fun..

chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jul 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
Could someone Gillooly Dave Pratt in the throat so I dont have to listen to him anymore.....
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 13 @ 4:21 PM ET
Could someone Gillooly Dave Pratt in the throat so I dont have to listen to him anymore.....
- chompsey

It's your choice.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jul 13 @ 4:23 PM ET
It's your choice.
- A_SteamingLombardi



Thats way less interesting....
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Jul 13 @ 5:03 PM ET
I love the Canucks or did. Was a season ticket holder for almost 25 years. Bruins are my favorite team but I wanted Vancouver to win the cup regardless. Was heading to the Roxy that night to drink from the cup with my buddies that work & sing there but took in the riot instead. The entertainment district got shut down.

I even liked the hiring of Linden, Benning & Desjardins at the time but it has been an unmitigated disaster. Worst asset management I have ever seen. Having a meddlesome owner is at the route of it.

It’s unfortunate. They needed to start a proper rebuild 2 years ago & not give assets away or keep making trades trying to make the playoffs. Garrison & Bieksa if moved should have been traded at the deadline; if at all, when there values were the highest. Now we have zero to show for Hamhuis as well, another solid top 4 NHL Dman. 3 years ago the Canucks had 1 of the top 5 D’s for top 6 in the NHL. Their top 4 wasn’t as good as the really good teams but Tanev was young & our #5. Edler, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Garrison & Tanev. Solid.

Garrison was replaced with Sbisa, Bieksa with Bartowski & now Hamhuis with God knows who; I don’t like Gubranson, & Hamhuis wanted to stay. Gabranson is a hitter with a physical presence nothing else, Hamhuis is better suited to today’s faster game & still has years of service left as a top 4 as did Garrison, played as TB’s #3 last season & 4 the season prior, cup & conference appearances the last 2 years, Bieksa Anaheim’s #4 this season.

Brutal but it doesn’t just stop there.

This is not a playoff team. 1 of the worst defenses in all of hockey, scoring after the top line is virtually non existent. Good luck & good riddance. Gave up my season tickets even after the incredible enticements I was offered to keep them. Everyone I know but 1 other person has as well this summer. 3 years of dropping attendance. Curious to see how may people buy tickets & show up next season. Couldn’t give my tickets away to the 2 SJ games in March! & numerous other games last year, nor could my scalper buddy sell them. The majority of games I attended many were shown as 18K & change in paid attendance, couldn't have been more than 13K in the building if that.

I would suggest all Vancouver fans go to ESPN, highlight teams, choose Canucks, then click on transactions & few everything Benning has done since arriving. I should warn you it's not for the faint of heart.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 13 @ 5:06 PM ET
Any poll which consists of 200 people or less is a farce, not to mention the way some of the questions were presented. The only way in which the poll would have any sort of relevance or validity, is if those questions were posed to the actual fanbase (and even then you are dealing with fair weather fans and people who barely know the sport, let alone having the ability to make an informed opinion) and not the hockey world in general. You are obviously working with bias as well as lack of information and ignorance.
- Zogg


I couldn't care less about a poll. It doesn't mean a thing. Lets see how things look when the puck is dropped in October.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
Giving them a low ranking for Vision I think is also unfair.

Benning has stated his vision:

1. restock the prospect pipeline
2. fill the 24 year old (ish) player gap
3. add overall depth
4. build from the back and up the middle
5. aim to make the playoffs every year

Considering where he started ... I'm happy.

I don't get the whole "tear it down - tank" idea. Who has that worked for?

Chicago is always held up as an example. But I don't think they ever "tanked" on purpose. They just sucked for a while and got some exceptional picks.

- whales


I looked at the previous years before teams like Chicago and Los Angeles, they were drafting around middle of the pack previous years picking up pieces. Then we're real bad for a few to add high quality to the pieces that had been developing already. No team that I've looked at has straight up tanked on purpose one season and have gone on to being good.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 13 @ 5:13 PM ET
I looked at the previous years before teams like Chicago and Los Angeles, they were drafting around middle of the pack previous years picking up pieces. Then we're real bad for a few to add high quality to the pieces that had been developing already. No team that I've looked at has straight up tanked on purpose one season and have gone on to being good.
- manvanfan



There are a ton of different ways to construct a team and you can't do it by just tanking and drafting top picks every year(see Edmonton). The draft can be useful especially if you are drafting top 10, but you have to be able to have a good mix of players that can complement each other and play various rolls.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 13 @ 5:14 PM ET
Excellent blog Carol. There is a plan in place
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