But I thought only Benning made mistakes as a GM?

* Disclaimer: not directed at you Lefty *
- Marwood

the only GM that's mistake free is James Tanner.

Every GM makes mistakes. You can really only judge a GM after they have had 4 or 5 yrs to mold their vision of a team, to be fair. I like to rag on Benning and Chia but its like blaming a PM or President in their first term for lingering messes from prior administrations. Critiquing specific transactions, however, should be fair game.
- FLflames34

GM's really need five years to be judged properly on their construction of a team. Doesn't mean they can't be ragged on for stupid poop along the way though.

Every GM makes mistakes. You can really only judge a GM after they have had 4 or 5 yrs to mold their vision of a team, to be fair. I like to rag on Benning and Chia but its like blaming a PM or President in their first term for lingering messes from prior administrations. Critiquing specific transactions, however, should be fair game.
- FLflames34

Then maybe, in the future, you should shut the f*ck up.

Then maybe, in the future, you should shut the f*ck up.
- Marwood

Then maybe, in the future, you should shut the f*ck up.
- Marwood

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Don't think I was the one talking junk in this thread. Feel free to have a look. I was actually agreeing with what your general point was.

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Don't think I was the one talking junk in this thread. Feel free to have a look. I was actually agreeing with what your general point was.
- FLflames34

I think that's his general sarcasm, you're all good

George McPhee as GM in Vegas hey, good hire imho.

I think that's his general sarcasm, you're all good
- LeftCoaster

Whipper's father?

George McPhee as GM in Vegas hey, good hire imho.
- LeftCoaster

Humble? You?

How anyone can NOT think the Canucks are rebuilding, is beyond me?? They are rebuilding! And what's "the proper way"? Is there such a thing as the proper way? If there is, can someone please explain it to me.

In the past four years the Canucks have picked six times in the first round...six! Including a 5th, 6th and 9th overall. Those are excellent draft positions!

The asset management part I get, to me, it's been terrible. So is only picking ONCE in the second round in the previous four drafts. That's where Benning loses me, but I do understand trying to be competitive while the Sedins are here.

There's seven kids under the age of 25 on the team now, Gudbranson, Etem, Virtanen, Hutton, Horvat, Granlund, Baertschi and possibly Gaunce and Pedan. Are any of them stars, no, but that's a lot of youth he's brought in.

Next year if he doesn't draft in rounds 1-2-3 and acquire more picks....he's truly lost me.
- LeftCoaster

You shouldn't worry about it at all - in the last 4 years out of the 120+ players that have been chosen in the 2nd round - about 10 have played more than 10 games - like the band said "it makes no difference"

You shouldn't worry about it at all - in the last 4 years out of the 120+ players that have been chosen in the 2nd round - about 10 have played more than 10 games - like the band said "it makes no difference"
- Brooks_Light

Sometimes I feel like fans value mid round picks more than actual contributing NHL players

Yet the poll shows TML going from 30 to 13.
- docmorgan

In which year?😜

Edit

Which decade?

Humble? You?
- thundachunk

He makes mistakes too

You shouldn't worry about it at all - in the last 4 years out of the 120+ players that have been chosen in the 2nd round - about 10 have played more than 10 games - like the band said "it makes no difference"
- Brooks_Light

Well I do like second rounders and the more you pick the better your chances are of finding a great player, also, you can't use the last two years, kids are still too young.

Well I do like second rounders and the more you pick the better your chances are of finding a great player, also, you can't use the last two years, kids are still too young.
- LeftCoaster

What assets should they use to fill the 20-24 age gap? Our vets aren't worth anything. Better 2nds than 1sts

What assets should they use to fill the 20-24 age gap? Our vets aren't worth anything. Better 2nds than 1sts
- CanuckDon

Bang on. Fans need to realize this.

the only GM that's mistake free is James Tanner.
- LeftCoaster

What assets should they use to fill the 20-24 age gap? Our vets aren't worth anything. Better 2nds than 1sts
- CanuckDon

Yup I agree, I know why he was doing it. I just think when Benning got here he thought the team was better than it actually was. Thus he used a few more picks in trades than I'd have liked.

Look I bust Bennings balls on certain things but I also praise him for other things, his drafting in particular. Do I think he's a horrible GM, no, nor do I think he's one of the better GM's. For a relatively new General Manager his learning curve has been steep, but IMO he is learning.

I've said this many times, if he's given enough time, he'll draft a winner in Vancouver.

Yup I agree, I know why he was doing it. I just think when Benning got here he thought the team was better than it actually was. Thus he used a few more picks in trades than I'd have liked.

Look I bust Bennings balls on certain things but I also praise him for other things, his drafting in particular. Do I think he's a horrible GM, no, nor do I think he's one of the better GM's. For a relatively new General Manager his learning curve has been steep, but IMO he is learning.

I've said this many times, if he's given enough time, he'll draft a winner in Vancouver.
- LeftCoaster

It could have been worse, two 1sts and a 2nd for Kessel.

Well I do like second rounders and the more you pick the better your chances are of finding a great player, also, you can't use the last two years, kids are still too young.
- LeftCoaster

I didn't include them into my first comment bcus there's only been one in the last 2 years and he's played 18 games - Daniel Sprong....

Chris Tierney is the only players of any relevance in the past 4 years - and thats a stretch

from the 2011 class there are some beauties - Rask, Saad, Jenner, Nieto, Kucherov
so thats 6 out of 150 making an actual impact

My point is - a lot of the posters on here getting pretty bent out of shape about 2nd round picks and in reality the % of them actually becoming anything significant is very very low

It could have been worse, two 1sts and a 2nd for Kessel.
- A_SteamingLombardi

fair enough...

I didn't include them into my first comment bcus there's only been one in the last 2 years and he's played 18 games - Daniel Sprong....

Chris Tierney is the only players of any relevance in the past 4 years - and thats a stretch

from the 2011 class there are some beauties - Rask, Saad, Jenner, Nieto, Kucherov
so thats 6 out of 150 making an actual impact

My point is - a lot of the posters on here getting pretty bent out of shape about 2nd round picks and in reality the % of them actually becoming anything significant is very very low
- Brooks_Light

I think it's somewhere around 30%, which is not "very very low" but, as mentioned, he had a lot of work to do when he got here.

To me drafting is his thing, I just wish he'd do it more. But I understand we can't have it both ways.

I didn't include them into my first comment bcus there's only been one in the last 2 years and he's played 18 games - Daniel Sprong....

Chris Tierney is the only players of any relevance in the past 4 years - and thats a stretch

from the 2011 class there are some beauties - Rask, Saad, Jenner, Nieto, Kucherov
so thats 6 out of 150 making an actual impact

My point is - a lot of the posters on here getting pretty bent out of shape about 2nd round picks and in reality the % of them actually becoming anything significant is very very low
- Brooks_Light

True, but with Bennings skills, i'd bet he can find a Saad/Jenner in the 2nd

True, but with Bennings skills, i'd bet he can find a Saad/Jenner in the 2nd
- Retinalz

If he ever makes another 2nd round pick.

His only 2nd was Demko I think.

If he ever makes another 2nd round pick.

His only 2nd was Demko I think.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yup....and what a beauty pick it was. Picking up Baertschi looks to be a good gamble as well.