The deal is perfect. When the deal expires, Nash's cap hit will be off the books one way or the other, He will have played out his contract or the Rangers trade him and retain some of his contract. If he produces he will be paid, if not, NEXT

I really think this is the key. In two years, this team will have the flexibility to make the moves we all wanted them to make this year. Until then, I think they should just weather the storm and hope for the best if it truly is a gridlock on the trade front.
- Bean_Dip

I agree that you agree w/ that quote. NYR CANT take any chances right now. If they are going to ride out current contracts, which it seems that they are (i.e. Girardi, Staal, Nash) then bridge deals are the way to go w/ our RFA's w/ Kreider as the possible exception. (Kreider already had bridge deal, so he might be more difficult). Lets see if Hayes and Miller can play w/ some consistency then sign them long term if they earn it when $$$$ are available

I thought everyone is comparing Miller to Reilly Smith and Vincent Trocheck
- rangerdanger94

Hell no, I don't want any of the rfa's signed for close to 5. Execpt maybe Hayes. I'm still on the fence.

For $4.7M per year for the next 6 years, then he should consistently score 25-35 goals a year.

Isn't that why you don't want to give Kreider that same extension? What changes for Miller? His effort? If we were willing to give that type of extension for effort, Hagelin would still be here.

Kreider and Miller scored almost identical stat lines this past season. The difference is that Kreider scored 21 goals the year before, and 17 goals the year before that. That's 3 years of pretty consistent production. Miller scored 10 the year before and 3 before that in his short seasons.

But Miller is the consistent one worthy of $4.7M per year but Kreider is not?
- rangerdanger94

Vince Trocheck, Mikhail Boedker, Nik Bugjstad, Justin Abdelkader all disagree.

I thought everyone is comparing Miller to Reilly Smith and Vincent Trocheck
- rangerdanger94

Vince Trocheck has one 20+ goal season. Just like Miller.

Where did you get that number from?? I never once even mentioned close to 4. I said if he was willing to take 3.25-3.5 for longer.

Your also leaving out Miller hasn't had a shot at top line minutes( his own doing with the attitude) and almost no PP time compared to Kreider.
- mdw7413

Yea but what does attitude really mean? Like do you think AV meant Miller gave him a sassy attitude? Or do you think it means his overall attitude towards hockey was bad (he wasn't putting the work in to be a professional, didn't take practice seriously, didn't think defense was important, etc)?

If it's the latter, then that only works against him. I really don't think it's because Miller was sassy to AV

Vince Trocheck has one 20+ goal season. Just like Miller.
- tomburton99

I had said 5-6 years at $4.25 mil per. Rask just got $4 mil for each of the next six years. I think Miller is between him and Trochek/Smith, so 4.25 mil seemed fair.

I had said 5-6 years at $4.25 mil per. Rask just got $4 mil for each of the next six years. I think Miller is between him and Trochek/Smith, so 4.25 mil seemed fair.
- airjan23

I'm fine with that. I just listed a bunch of guys that don't score 25-35 goals that are paid similar. RangerDanger wants a team full of Joe Pavelski's

Yea but what does attitude really mean? Like do you think AV meant Miller gave him a sassy attitude? Or do you think it means his overall attitude towards hockey was bad (he wasn't putting the work in to be a professional, didn't take practice seriously, didn't think defense was important, etc)?

If it's the latter, then that only works against him. I really don't think it's because Miller was sassy to AV
- rangerdanger94

Well yeah, I think it was his practices and how he was preparing for games that AV alluded to.

Kreider might do all the right things at practice but give me Millers effort game time over Kreiders any day.

Vince Trocheck has one 20+ goal season. Just like Miller.
- tomburton99

True, and that deal has a risk of being a mistake for Florida if he doesn't reproduce it.

Well yeah, I think it was his practices and how he was preparing for games that AV alluded to.

Kreider might do all the right things at practice but give me Millers effort game time over Kreiders any day.
- mdw7413

Give me Hagelin's effort over both

Give me Hagelin's effort over both
- rangerdanger94

If Miller can build on the season he just had and score lets say 27-30 gs, who do you keep in hind sight. Miller or Hags

If Miller can build on the season he just had and score lets say 27-30 gs, who do you keep in hind sight. Miller or Hags
- mdw7413

Miller obviously

If Miller can build on the season he just had and score lets say 27-30 gs, who do you keep in hind sight. Miller or Hags
- mdw7413

Carl Hagelin's career high of 17 goals, duh.

Carl Hagelin's career high of 17 goals, duh.
- tomburton99

I was just testing RD.

Vin you don't have to answer.

Thanks for making me wait this out Gorton....9 days to go

Thanks for making me wait this out Gorton....9 days to go
- TPC

Kreider's getting dealt yo.

I think Miller was really smart to go bridge deal, just like taking the 1 year qualifying offer last year. He is betting on himself. If he keeps getting better he is gonna cash in big.

Kreider's getting dealt yo.
- tomburton99

Kreider for Nichushkin and a 2nd.

Kreider's getting dealt yo.
- tomburton99

Stop coaching pat

Kreider for Nichushkin and a 2nd.
- mdw7413

As he bolts for Russia and that 2nd buys us a nice AHL player...cup here we come

Carl Hagelin's career high of 17 goals, duh.
- tomburton99

Miller's career high of 22 goals is sooooo much better

Kreider for Nichushkin and a 2nd.
- mdw7413

No. Nichuskin wants to go back to Russia.

As he bolts for Russia and that 2nd buys us a nice AHL player...cup here we come
- TPC

Drop him off in Brighton Beach he scores 30 for us

Miller's career high of 22 goals is sooooo much better
- rangerdanger94

5 goals better actually. Math.

5 goals better actually. Math.
- tomburton99

Yea soooooo much better

Stick to analyzing refs