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willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 14 @ 1:08 PM ET
I'd pass on that. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have JVR, but trading Zacha, our best offensive prospect that is just 19yr old, for a 27yr old would be a step in the wrong direction. We aren't contenders just yet; at most we are now a bubble team. Stick to the plan and give the kids a chance to grow.
- IrischesGlueck

There's an early worry about Zacha's injuries. That may bring his value down to the level.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 1:08 PM ET
Rumors of a deal with the framework of Zacha + Kinkaid for JVR. I do it but only if we can extend him come the contract expiration in 2 years.
- willschulme

I'd be surprised, but not to say it won't happen.

Where's the guy getting the info from? Is this a Zajac to the Leafs type situation?

I don't know your management team to well, but I'd be surprised if any of this was actually leaked.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
[quote=willschulme]http://thehockeypress.ca/posts/21659939/nhl-trade-rumors--trade-market---destinations---james-van-riemsdyk-to-nj-devils--h3----cam-fowler-to-habs-bruins--russell--sens--blue-jackets---and-more.html

Well it might explain why he is sitting out if he is on the trade market. I hope not though. I like JVR, but I like Zacha more in the future. Not that I want to trade Q either, but Q/Kincaid would be more palatable, and Q is a LL draft pick...
I said it before, Vessey would be a great get, but no way it happens.
bballboy514
Joined: 07.18.2013

Jul 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
Rumors of a deal with the framework of Zacha + Kinkaid for JVR. I do it but only if we can extend him come the contract expiration in 2 years.
- willschulme


Hell no. Rather have Zacha. Kinkaid can go as far I care, nothing special IMO. Wedgewood is just fine as a backup. Plus Cory plays every game basically.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
[quote=willschulme]http://thehockeypress.ca/posts/21659939/nhl-trade-rumors--trade-market---destinations---james-van-riemsdyk-to-nj-devils--h3----cam-fowler-to-habs-bruins--russell--sens--blue-jackets---and-more.html

Well it might explain why he is sitting out if he is on the trade market. I hope not though. I like JVR, but I like Zacha more in the future. Not that I want to trade Q either, but Q/Kincaid would be more palatable, and Q is a LL draft pick...
I said it before, Vessey would be a great get, but no way it happens.

- redmonsters


NOOO. I hope that poop aint true. throw in blandisi or boucher but not Zacha. But we should all know how Lou works. The players that are in the news are never the ones to be involved.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 14 @ 1:28 PM ET
NOOO. I hope that poop aint true. throw in blandisi or boucher but not Zacha. But we should all know how Lou works. The players that are in the news are never the ones to be involved.
- Leniwm1

Imagine if it's actually his boy, Travis Zajac
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 14 @ 1:29 PM ET
If we're trading Zacha, we need to get a D back.
IrischesGlueck
New Jersey Devils
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 08.12.2013

Jul 14 @ 1:30 PM ET
Imagine if it's actually his boy, Travis Zajac
- willschulme


THAT, I would be ok with
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 14 @ 1:34 PM ET
Imagine if it's actually his boy, Travis Zajac
- willschulme


I like Travis, our best defensive forward =)

But he built a house in NJ i think last year and got a no trade I believe. If i had the option to not uproot my family I for sure wouldnt.
redmonsters
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 14 @ 2:13 PM ET
Imagine if it's actually his boy, Travis Zajac
- willschulme

So in this thread we get Vessey, JVR and get rid of Zajac, I have not a had a dream this good since early puberty....which is why this is fun, but just a dream.
devfan30
New Jersey Devils
Location: totowa, NJ
Joined: 12.18.2007

Jul 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
Rumors of a deal with the framework of Zacha + Kinkaid for JVR. I do it but only if we can extend him come the contract expiration in 2 years.
- willschulme

I take this deal if its true. Devils are getting an established 27 year old forward for a guy with one NHL game and a possible injury concern, and a career backup goaltender at best?
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jul 14 @ 2:48 PM ET
If we're trading Zacha, we need to get a D back.
- rmdevil313


Zacha for Ference.

Restore some balance to the world.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jul 14 @ 2:56 PM ET
There's an early worry about Zacha's injuries. That may bring his value down to the level.
- willschulme


Crosby had concussions for like 2 years, but they never considered trading him. Zacha's had a few injuries, but that doesn't mean you just trade over a few injuries. Trading for JVR would be completely stupid, he's 27 already and has ONE 60 point season. Pass on him.

We should be building down the middle, not from the LW.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jul 14 @ 3:04 PM ET
Crosby had concussions for like 2 years, but they never considered trading him. Zacha's had a few injuries, but that doesn't mean you just trade over a few injuries. Trading for JVR would be completely stupid, he's 27 already and has ONE 60 point season. Pass on him.

We should be building down the middle, not from the LW.

- Devils9503


Well said.
Jamincito
Season Ticket Holder
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.12.2016

Jul 14 @ 3:04 PM ET
There's no way i trade a 19 yr old kid with a bunch of offensive upside for a 27 yr old guy who first is a LW (hall,camelleri,boucher), second, missed half the season last year, and third, paying a lot of cash too. Would be the first move i'd disagree with if shero makes it...
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jul 14 @ 3:10 PM ET
There's no way i trade a 19 yr old kid with a bunch of offensive upside for a 27 yr old guy who first is a LW (hall,camelleri,boucher), second, missed half the season last year, and third, paying a lot of cash too. Would be the first move i'd disagree with if shero makes it...
- Jamincito


Yeah, I looked up JVR and we'll be trading Zacha who had an injury for another guy who just had a big injury, who by the way, missed 42 games.

JVR has hit 50 points twice in his career, one being a 60 point year. I hope Shero doesn't trade Zacha makes no sense. Zacha could play this year, so it makes no sense all together.
PugsNotDrugs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timbuk2
Joined: 07.11.2016

Jul 14 @ 3:18 PM ET
This Vesey short list gets longer by the minute.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jul 14 @ 3:19 PM ET
Another year, another circus surrounding the decision of an over-hyped college free agent that spurned the team that drafted him and will become an average-or-worse NHL player.


- eichiefs9



Tyler Bozak is disappointed in your comment
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jul 14 @ 3:23 PM ET
Crosby had concussions for like 2 years but they never considered trading him. Zacha's had a few injuries, but that doesn't mean you just trade over a few injuries. Trading for JVR would be completely stupid, he's 27 already and has ONE 60 point season. Pass on him.

We should be building down the middle, not from the LW.

- Devils9503



Apples and oranges. More like a tree and a seed analogy
Crosby even with his concussions and leveled off-play is a league/franchise-changing player
Devils622
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jul 14 @ 3:25 PM ET
The site reporting Zacha and Kinkaid to Toronto quotes Eklund which shows it is unreliable at best. Also has disclaimer that they may misrepresent the original article. Don't buy it
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 14 @ 3:33 PM ET
didn't read the blog, apologies. just wanted to quick post some stuff that was shared on a fb group regarding Vesey.

Best college player last season. Preds drafted him 4 years ago. Per the CBA players who haven't signed their ELC's 4 years after being drafted and went to NCAA can become free agents.

Vesey has stated that it's his right to become a FA, it's in the CBA. He can do this because he's so good. Whatever team picks him up will still only be able to sign him to an ELC for 2 years (could be 1 year) however, so money isn't the motivating factor.

Buffalo traded a 3rd rounder to the Preds for his negotiation rights some time just before the draft. They have Eichel who Vesey played with and is good friends, so everyone figured that Vesey would sign there.

He still hasn't signed, and is still going to go to UFA.

The teams in the running apparently are;

Buffalo has room on the LW and can offer ice time and has Eichel.

He grew up a Bruins fan and is from Boston. However their future outlook is pure dogpoop. Why would a young player go to the team that's clearly on the down swing?

Toronto drafted his brother to try and lure him (he's poop) and hired his dad as a scout. Again, the chance to play on the wing with Marner or Matthews.

Devils are on it now because of our young forward core, and we can get him a ton of ice time. He also wants to stay in the northeast.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
Rumors of a deal with the framework of Zacha + Kinkaid for JVR. I do it but only if we can extend him come the contract expiration in 2 years.
- willschulme


no no no thank you no
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 14 @ 3:51 PM ET
(frank) this kid.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jul 14 @ 3:54 PM ET
Apples and oranges. More like a tree and a seed analogy
Crosby even with his concussions and leveled off-play is a league/franchise-changing player

- DeflatedPucks


The point was just because Zacha has had a few injuries, doesn't mean you just trade him. JVR honestly wouldn't help this team more compared to letting Zacha play.
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Offseason champs yet again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Jul 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
I'm all for adding any talented youth, but I don't foresee us being on his radar. I like our youthful trajectory and I want to think that is enough to lure a coveted UFA, but it seems unlikely that NJ would be on his radar considering he seems to have a hard on for the three teams within a stones throw of his elementary school.
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