so are we really just waiting for Money, JG and wotherspoon to sign? and then roster is basically set for core people?

I assume F.Hamilton will just sign and be a good AHL piece this year. Chiasson bumped him and hathaway down
- numbear

If we could trade Wideman and aquire Hayes or Kreider that would be neat.

Maybe this'll be the trade that rocks New York. Somehow I doubt it.

If we could trade Wideman and aquire Hayes or Kreider that would be neat.
- fry

would lose picks doing that

I think we need wideman this year to start. trade at deadline if needed. Or if the refs just hate him sooner

ease spoon and joki in taking on more minutes.

england and bolig I think will split sit in the bleachers this year

If we could trade Wideman and aquire Hayes or Kreider that would be neat.
- fry

I don't frequent this blog, but wanted some perspective on Jooris. So, while I'm here, allow me to say....I don't think so.
We have 3 good young D that should get a chance to crack the line up ahead of thinking there is a need for Wideman. Fully hoping and expecting Girardi and Staal to rebound at least somewhat after their longest offseason in 4 years.
And finally, while Hayes and Kreider still have yet to live up to their potential I would lose my sh!t if one of them went for Wideman.

Try not to let people affect your perspective so much. Some people on here have no concept for player development.

Technically Byron and Jooris were the heart player we loved seeing play in the same year. Then they both went to Therrien's and Hartley's doghouses the next year. Lol

I liked Hathaway in that role last year, but then Keith broke his wrist on an uncalled slash.


- fry

Gotta disagree with you on the high ceiling you had for Jooris. I watched him at games at the Dome & he didn't play with the same urgency that he did the year before. He was definitely getting leap frogged by at least 5 players this year.

would lose picks doing that

I think we need wideman this year to start. trade at deadline if needed. Or if the refs just hate him sooner

ease spoon and joki in taking on more minutes.

england and bolig I think will split sit in the bleachers this year
- numbear

More worried about this than any regression he's experienced..

Gotta disagree with you on the high ceiling you had for Jooris. I watched him at games at the Dome & he didn't play with the same urgency that he did the year before. He was definitely getting leap frogged by at least 5 players this year.
- Kevin R

Yeah he really didn't have that jump last year. I'm sure we all saw him play at the Dome lol. I have season tickets myself. Seems like we agree on everything except his ceiling.

I don't frequent this blog, but wanted some perspective on Jooris. So, while I'm here, allow me to say....I don't think so.
We have 3 good young D that should get a chance to crack the line up ahead of thinking there is a need for Wideman. Fully hoping and expecting Girardi and Staal to rebound at least somewhat after their longest offseason in 4 years.
And finally, while Hayes and Kreider still have yet to live up to their potential I would lose my sh!t if one of them went for Wideman.
- Tonybere

Hah yeah would have to be different trades. No way you guys can fit Wideman under the cap.

Hah yeah would have to be different trades. No way you guys can fit Wideman under the cap.
- fry

How much does he make? Kreider will be signing anyday now for around $4M per year.

How much does he make? Kreider will be signing anyday now for around $4M per year.
- Tonybere

too much

too much
- numbear

lol. You can't over-value someone who is willing to push around the officials for you!!

Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames: Josh Jooris A Bigger Loss Than Most Realize
- ToddCordellCGY

Josh Jooris is a poor mans Matt Hendricks.good guy to have but won't make or break you.

More worried about this than any regression he's experienced..
- fry

upside. gives a reason to reduce his minutes and give time to joki/spoon, run 7 D let those bottom 4 guys fight for minutes

gio 25min
brodie 25min
DH 22min
Wides 12min
Joki 12min
Spoon 12min
england 12min

Yeah he really didn't have that jump last year. I'm sure we all saw him play at the Dome lol. I have season tickets myself. Seems like we agree on everything except his ceiling.
- fry

You have seasons tickets and still know sweet (frank) all about hockey? Slow down on the booze, and pay more attention to the game and not whether or not the hot dog vendor is in your section.

Ahhh Whipper...wonder if he ever created an alt?
- geta02it

Probably about 10 of them.

upside. gives a reason to reduce his minutes and give time to joki/spoon, run 7 D let those bottom 4 guys fight for minutes

gio 25min
brodie 25min
DH 22min
Wides 12min
Joki 12min
Spoon 12min
england 12min
- numbear

You can't have 116 minutes in a regular season game.

Probably about 10 of them.
- TandA4Flames

He was a great poster. I really enjoyed the perspective from the trailer park trash demographic in Calgary.

Yeah he really didn't have that jump last year. I'm sure we all saw him play at the Dome lol. I have season tickets myself. Seems like we agree on everything except his ceiling.
- fry

Honestly, what makes you think that he is top 6 capable? Because he spent time there in his 1st year when we were suffering through injuries and no other choice? I like Jooris but for what he is and not what he isn't. Hartley didn't play him enough last year, this I will agree with. But it would have been in a 4th line, PK role or a 3rd line poop down role at best.

If he couldn't find a spot in the top 6 when we were looking very weak on the wings, what makes you think, at age 26, he will ever reach that level?

lol. You can't over-value someone who is willing to push around the officials for you!!
- Tonybere

You guys wouldn't do a straight across trade, Wideman for Kreider would you? I would think you would want more in return, even if CGY retained salary on him to give you guys some cap relief.

Honestly, what makes you think that he is top 6 capable? Because he spent time there in his 1st year when we were suffering through injuries and no other choice? I like Jooris but for what he is and not what he isn't. Hartley didn't play him enough last year, this I will agree with. But it would have been in a 4th line, PK role or a 3rd line poop down role at best.

If he couldn't find a spot in the top 6 when we were looking very weak on the wings, what makes you think, at age 26, he will ever reach that level?
- TandA4Flames

He should never be in the top 6. If he is you're in trouble.

He should never be in the top 6. If he is you're in trouble.
- Jeropotato

Fry thinks he should.

You guys wouldn't do a straight across trade, Wideman for Kreider would you? I would think you would want more in return, even if CGY retained salary on him to give you guys some cap relief.
- TandA4Flames

We're jammed on the back end. (Can't believe I just typed that). And need help in our top 6 forwards. I don't see how trading Kreider for a defensemen will help that. Cap help or no. Our cap should be manageable. Just not picking up any big names this year. Hopefully Nash has a decent year and can be moved for more help at the deadline.

We're jammed on the back end. (Can't believe I just typed that). And need help in our top 6 forwards. I don't see how trading Kreider for a defensemen will help that. Cap help or no. Our cap should be manageable. Just not picking up any big names this year. Hopefully Nash has a decent year and can be moved for more help at the deadline.
- Tonybere

Sounds like you have similar issues and needs to what we have.

You can't have 116 minutes in a regular season game.
- Jeropotato

theres 2 guys on at a time so make that 58min....im actually 2 minute short.

And cgy likes OT....so yes there is

Maybe this'll be the trade that rocks New York. Somehow I doubt it.
- itwasin

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