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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 5:10 PM ET
I actually like the idea of a line of Kane/Girgs/Bailey

That's a fast line that can wear teams out and also has some semblance of skill

- sbroads24



IF we sign Vesey, next season...

Vesey-Eichel-Okposo
Nylander-O'Reilly-Ennis
Kane-Reinhart-Bailey
*maybe switch around the top9 guys to see how chemistry develops
Foligno-Larsson-Girgensons
*this could be a female dog of a 4th line to play against that could really hassle other teams' scoring lines

I really like that forward group

Without Vesey, or another legit top6 type guy...
I'd put Girgs with O'Reilly & move Nylander up on the Eichel line

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 5:12 PM ET
This is Carrier's year if he can continue with where he left off last year


Edit: Dark horse call up-Dupuy

- MCGUIZZY




Carrier is probably the 2nd call up after Bailey
Dupuy might see some time up here if there's enough injuries
Catenacci is a very fast, pesky kind of player tht could get called up again
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 20 @ 5:12 PM ET
I will guarantee he has an ELC by the time the preseason starts. This is a non-story.
- Zschalberg



I don't think it's quite a non-story, it is July after all, but I think it's absurd to think he won't sign before the season starts.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 5:14 PM ET
I don't think it's quite a non-story, it is July after all, but I think it's absurd to think he won't sign before the season starts.
- Wetbandit1



It's curious to see what the holdup is
How hard is it to give this guy the max rookie deal?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 20 @ 5:17 PM ET
It's curious to see what the holdup is
How hard is it to give this guy the max rookie deal?

- jdfitz77



Uncle Lou doesn't like to give them out
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 20 @ 5:17 PM ET
Carrier is probably the 2nd call up after Bailey
Dupuy might see some time up here if there's enough injuries
Catenacci is a very fast, pesky kind of player tht could get called up again

- jdfitz77



We have alot of options in Rochester that will be waiting for their time. I think in another season we can replace pretty much our entire bottom 6 with the guys we drafted/in Rochester.

Girgensons, Foligno, Larsson, Gionta, Moulson, Deslauriers.....all replaceable


Question is when will their replacements be ready
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 20 @ 5:22 PM ET
The log jam has begun. Welcome to Too-Many-Forwards-Land, you can check out, never leave and all that...

Absolute Locks to make team if healthy (10)
RoR Jack Samson Okposo Kane Girgs Ennis Larsson Foligno Gio

Most probable given current roster, Day 1 Starters/Scratch (3)
Moulson D-Lo CoR (last center if girgs/ennis are wing)

Prospects ready by 2017-18 season(4)
Nylander, Bailey, Fasching, Carrier

Prospects possibly ready by 2018-19 (3)
Asplund Baptiste E-Rod

Most likely never make it but wild cards nonetheless
Cornel, Estephan, Catenacci, E-Rod (Put in both spots because he is a tweener. I liked what I saw in the couple games he played last year with the big club)

Without accounting for any draft picks at all, we are going to have a lotttt of competition at forward. Gio goes after this season, but that's the only one that is most likely leaving. Only other departures would have to be trades.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 20 @ 5:29 PM ET
What if Ennis or Reinhart centered those 2?
I think Reinhart can make ppl around him better
With him at center, those wingers likely score more than if it's Girgs setting them up

- jdfitz77

you guys see a lot of Reinhart jersey's around town and at games? I'd like to get one, but no way I could choose Reinhart over Eichel. My 3 year old daughter cheers for one athlete in the world and it's "Jack Michael, Woo!"
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 20 @ 5:31 PM ET
you guys see a lot of Reinhart jersey's around town and at games? I'd like to get one, but no way I could choose Reinhart over Eichel. My 3 year old daughter cheers for one athlete in the world and it's "Jack Michael, Woo!"
- Hatboro_Swords


Haha that's cute
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:05 PM ET
2018

Nylander-Eichel-Okposo
Kane-Oreilly-Reinhart
Ennis-Girgensons-Bailey
Carrier-Asplund-Fasching

trade-Ristolainen
Mccabe-Bogosian
Guhle-Nelson

Lehner
Ullmark
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:07 PM ET
Uncle Lou doesn't like to give them out
- Stripes77



He's never picked 1st overall though to my knowledge either
I get his old school thinking, and there's something to be said for it...
Just not in this instance

I really hope Matthews just gets pissed & demands a trade
That would be awesome
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:09 PM ET
you guys see a lot of Reinhart jersey's around town and at games? I'd like to get one, but no way I could choose Reinhart over Eichel. My 3 year old daughter cheers for one athlete in the world and it's "Jack Michael, Woo!"
- Hatboro_Swords



Yeah, definitely a few
Not as many as Eichel though
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:23 PM ET
The log jam has begun. Welcome to Too-Many-Forwards-Land, you can check out, never leave and all that...

Absolute Locks to make team if healthy (10)
RoR Jack Samson Okposo Kane Girgs Ennis Larsson Foligno Gio

Most probable given current roster, Day 1 Starters/Scratch (3)
Moulson D-Lo CoR (last center if girgs/ennis are wing)

Prospects ready by 2017-18 season(4)
Nylander, Bailey, Fasching, Carrier

Prospects possibly ready by 2018-19 (3)
Asplund Baptiste E-Rod

Most likely never make it but wild cards nonetheless
Cornel, Estephan, Catenacci, E-Rod (Put in both spots because he is a tweener. I liked what I saw in the couple games he played last year with the big club)

Without accounting for any draft picks at all, we are going to have a lotttt of competition at forward. Gio goes after this season, but that's the only one that is most likely leaving. Only other departures would have to be trades.

- RhinoFan



That's all just about right on IMO
There's a few guys u forgot though:

-Olofsson-
has been getting better & better. I wish he was coming to Rochester this season, but we'll have to wait till next. Could end up being a top9 guy at some point.
-Possler-
another potential sleeper. Was awesome after he got drafted until he got hurt. Got back on track last year though. Also likely to be in Rochester next year & could eventually play for us in a top9 role.
-Karabacek-
idk why Murray was thinking here. Horrible pick IMO. Had a really nice playoffs, but not good enough to reach like he did. As a former 2nd round pick, maybe he still us some trade value. Ugh
-Dupuy-
haven't watched him all that much. Baker seems to like him, but this year in Rochester should give us an indication as to whether or not he can ever make the NHL
-Malone-
if the guy can just stop getting injured, could be another Gaustad. I thought the same of Schaller though (don't know why we didn't re-sign him?)
-Hurley-
another pick I hated. Wanted Santini (NJ) at the time, who looks to be a solid defensive defenseman. Hurley has been getting better, but unless he makes a significant leap, I doubt he'll ever be an NHLer

Those are my takes anyways
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:23 PM ET
Ted's hotdogs $1.25 all day today. No limit.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:26 PM ET
That's all just about right on IMO
There's a few guys u forgot though:

-Olofsson-
has been getting better & better. I wish he was coming to Rochester this season, but we'll have to wait till next. Could end up being a top9 guy at some point.
-Possler-
another potential sleeper. Was awesome after he got drafted until he got hurt. Got back on track last year though. Also likely to be in Rochester next year & could eventually play for us in a top9 role.

-Karabacek-
idk why Murray was thinking here. Horrible pick IMO. Had a really nice playoffs, but not good enough to reach like he did. As a former 2nd round pick, maybe he still us some trade value. Ugh
-Dupuy-
haven't watched him all that much. Baker seems to like him, but this year in Rochester should give us an indication as to whether or not he can ever make the NHL
-Malone-
if the guy can just stop getting injured, could be another Gaustad. I thought the same of Schaller though
-Hurley-
another pick I hated. Wanted Santini (NJ) at the time. Looks to be a solid defensive defenseman. Hurley has been getting better, but unless he makes a significant leap, I doubt he'll ever be an NHLer

Those are my takes anyways

- jdfitz77



Possler has shown absolutely no interest in coming overseas to play for us. I dont consider him part of the future.

Agree on Hurley and Karabacek. Also wanted Santini
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:29 PM ET
2018

Nylander-Eichel-Okposo
Kane-Oreilly-Reinhart
Ennis-Girgensons-Bailey
Carrier-Asplund-Fasching

trade-Ristolainen
Mccabe-Bogosian
Guhle-Nelson

Lehner
Ullmark

- MCGUIZZY



No Larsson?

And I think Asplund will be the top center in Rochester that year, or the 3rd line center here. Wouldn't make much sense for him to center the 4th line.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:32 PM ET
No Larsson?

And I think Asplund will be the top center in Rochester that year, or the 3rd line center here. Wouldn't make much sense for him to center the 4th line.

- jdfitz77



Contract up after this season. Very replaceable just like most of our bottom six
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 20 @ 6:32 PM ET
FYI...NHL 16 is 10 bucks on Xbox live
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 20 @ 6:37 PM ET
I will guarantee he has an ELC by the time the preseason starts. This is a non-story.
- Zschalberg



It would be a nonstory if he was signed already
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 20 @ 6:38 PM ET
Ted's hotdogs $1.25 all day today. No limit.
- sippyd

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:41 PM ET
Possler has shown absolutely no interest in coming overseas to play for us. I dont consider him part of the future.

Agree on Hurley and Karabacek. Also wanted Santini

- MCGUIZZY



Idk why u say that about Possler?
Many Europeans stay overseas for the first few year after they get drafted. NHL teams are ok with it bc we don't have to pay him, meanwhile we keep his rights while he's still developing against pretty good competition.

I wanted McKeown or Dougherty instead of Karabacek. Both good defenseman prospects that dropped in the draft.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 20 @ 6:42 PM ET
I see the bills made more news for ESPN what a shock
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Jul 20 @ 6:44 PM ET
Idk why u say that about Possler?
Many Europeans stay overseas for the first few year after they get drafted. NHL teams are ok with it bc we don't have to pay him, meanwhile we keep his rights while he's still developing against pretty good competition.

I wanted McKeown or Dougherty instead of Karabacek. Both good defenseman prospects that dropped in the draft.

- jdfitz77



Possler he did not come over for development camp he basically just skipped it
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:44 PM ET
Anybody watch that new show called Vice Principals on HBO ? funny a$$ show
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:49 PM ET
Idk why u say that about Possler?
Many Europeans stay overseas for the first few year after they get drafted. NHL teams are ok with it bc we don't have to pay him, meanwhile we keep his rights while he's still developing against pretty good competition.

I wanted McKeown or Dougherty instead of Karabacek. Both good defenseman prospects that dropped in the draft.

- jdfitz77



He has not come over for any of the dev camps (was eligible for at least two so far). Oloffson on the other hand has. There has been speculation that he doesnt have any desire to come over. Kris baker has hinted that he thinks hes very comfortable in Sweden and just may simply want to stay there


Dvorak was a notable player that we could have drafted over Karabacek as well
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