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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:47 PM ET
I thought MacDonald played well when he was recalled. Not worth his contract but a steadier minute eater who played well with ghost. At the moment I consider him a bad contract on an average player. With Umberger, Vinnie, and Schenn & Grossman of the cap, we can afford one of those. At least until the expansion draft.
- flyler

The problem I have is that he is not one of the top 6 best d-men right now, IMO.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
Yes really. Hakstol seemed to agree as well once he was back in the lineup.

I think he is a solid 4-5.

- MBFlyerfan


Hakstol wasn't exactly overwhelmed with options, especially once MDZ went down. Who did that leave, Alchy McRussian as the odd man out? This season, with the increased competition from free agent signings and franchise prospects, will better gauge where AMac is with Hak and Hexy. IMO.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
The problem I have is that he is not one of the top 6 best d-men right now, IMO.
- jak521


Fully healthy, which 6 are better (keeping in mind that Ivan Provorov, if he makes the team, has yet to play 1 game of professional hockey) than AMac?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:02 PM ET
The problem I have is that he is not one of the top 6 best d-men right now, IMO.
- jak521



Who are the 6 that are better?
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:04 PM ET
The problem I have is that he is not one of the top 6 best d-men right now, IMO.
- jak521


Won't know that until training camp. I agreed with his demotion to start last season but he finished the season as a top 4 defenseman down the stretch.

There are 4 locks:

MDZ
Gudas
Ghost
Streit(unless he's surprisingly moved)

And 4 in tight competition:

Macdonald
Schultz
Manning
Provorov

Other's that could surprise:

Hagg
Brennan
Morin
Sanheim
Alt
Myers
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
Hakstol wasn't exactly overwhelmed with options, especially once MDZ went down. Who did that leave, Alchy McRussian as the odd man out? This season, with the increased competition from free agent signings and franchise prospects, will better gauge where AMac is with Hak and Hexy. IMO.
- wolfhounds



Seriously I get that. But why didn't he have the least amount of ice time out of the 6 that were playing? He had 5 other options that were better according to the posters in here.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:36 PM ET
Won't know that until training camp. I agreed with his demotion to start last season but he finished the season as a top 4 defenseman down the stretch.

There are 4 locks:

MDZ
Gudas
Ghost
Streit(unless he's surprisingly moved)

And 4 in tight competition:

Macdonald
Schultz
Manning *
Provorov

Other's that could surprise:

Hagg
Brennan
Morin
Sanheim
Alt
Myers

- Baxter27


*pending contract
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
Hexy vs baby Schenn 2016

Let's get it on
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 20 @ 2:43 PM ET
Going to listen to the new Red Hot Chili Peppers album in hopes that maybe 1-2 songs sound like their older stuff as opposed to radio-friendly pop hits. I am fully expecting to be let down by them for a 4th straight album.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 20 @ 2:45 PM ET
Hexy vs baby Schenn 2016

Let's get it on

- Just5


He isn't good enough to break the bank on him.

To pay him 65% (estimate) or more of what Giroux and Voracek are getting is insane.
Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
Going to listen to the new Red Hot Chili Peppers album in hopes that maybe 1-2 songs sound like their older stuff as opposed to radio-friendly pop hits. I am fully expecting to be let down by them for a 4th straight album.
- jmatchett383


(Frank) Josh. Johnny F for life. How's the album? I haven't listened yet.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
(Frank) Josh. Johnny F for life. How's the album? I haven't listened yet.
- Tomfan365


It depends. If you like the Uplift Mofo Party Plan/Mother's Milk/Blood Sex Sugar Magic and maybe even One Hot Minute version, you will want to put your fist through whatever listening device you use. However, if you're more of a fan of the Californication/Stadium Arcadium style, maybe it's okay.

Honestly, much like Metallica, that band went straight to poop as soon as their singer cut his long hair...and when they stopped wearing nothing but underwear on stage (Metallica did not do this).

And yes, John Frusciante was the best guitarist that band ever had, although Hillel Slovak is pretty good of Uplift Mofo Party Plan.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Jul 20 @ 3:01 PM ET
It depends. If you like the Uplift Mofo Party Plan/Mother's Milk/Blood Sex Sugar Magic and maybe even One Hot Minute version, you will want to put your fist through whatever listening device you use. However, if you're more of a fan of the Californication/Stadium Arcadium style, maybe it's okay.

Honestly, much like Metallica, that band went straight to poop as soon as their singer cut his long hair...and when they stopped wearing nothing but underwear on stage (Metallica did not do this).

And yes, John Frusciante was the best guitarist that band ever had, although Hillel Slovak is pretty good of Uplift Mofo Party Plan.

- jmatchett383


I'm only 27 so Californication was my first RHCP love, but I do enjoy some of the older crazier stuff. I got more into that after reading Scar Tissue, which I've now read at least 5 times, such a good book. Anthony Kiedis had a hell of a life. I'll give it a listen, like the last album I'm just hoping for a few songs I can get into to add to my "Best of" playlist on Spotify.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 20 @ 3:02 PM ET
He isn't good enough to break the bank on him.

To pay him 65% (estimate) or more of what Giroux and Voracek are getting is insane.

- MikesPillBottle



Paying Schenn fair market value is not breaking the bank on him.
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
Didn't backread, but wanted to put in my 2 cents...

Always was a big fan of Murray Craven!!!

Underrated is the perfect description for him. He was an integral part of that mid 80's team I grew up with. One of the few (or only, don't feel like looking it up) forwards from that team that wasn't drafted or signed as an undrafted free agent (Poulin, Kerr). Not that he was a household name in Detroit at all, but he certainly "made his bones" here
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
Didn't backread, but wanted to put in my 2 cents...

Always was a big fan of Murray Craven!!!

Underrated is the perfect description for him. He was an integral part of that mid 80's team I grew up with. One of the few (or only, don't feel like looking it up) forwards from that team that wasn't drafted or signed as an undrafted free agent (Poulin, Kerr). Not that he was a household name in Detroit at all, but he certainly "made his bones" here

- WhirlingDervish


Craven was the 17th overall pick in 1982. The Flyers got him in the Daryl Sittler deal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_NHL_Entry_Draft

Loved Craven when he was here. Will always remember the goal that led to this hockey hug:

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
MILKY WAY???


- johndewar


Mom was gonna abandon her child. He should be happy he even got a Milky Way. I'm surprised she didn't buy him a roll of Necco Wafers.
flyhoc
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.14.2009

Jul 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
Craven was the 17th overall pick in 1982. The Flyers got him in the Daryl Sittler deal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_NHL_Entry_Draft

Loved Craven when he was here. Will always remember the goal that led to this hockey hug:


- johndewar



Classic picture
whats he thinking though..."Rick you have really bad breath", "stop, everyone is watching"
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
Craven was the 17th overall pick in 1982. The Flyers got him in the Daryl Sittler deal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_NHL_Entry_Draft

Loved Craven when he was here. Will always remember the goal that led to this hockey hug:


- johndewar


Love that pic! Great to see it again. One of the best comebacks ever
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 20 @ 3:25 PM ET
He isn't good enough to break the bank on him.

To pay him 65% (estimate) or more of what Giroux and Voracek are getting is insane.

- MikesPillBottle


Everything is a bargain in a world where Andrew MacDonald makes 5 million a year
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 20 @ 3:28 PM ET


Fringe NHL'er my ass.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 20 @ 3:30 PM ET


Fringe NHL'er my ass.

- Mononoke


Literally fell out of my chair
flyhoc
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.14.2009

Jul 20 @ 3:30 PM ET


Fringe NHL'er my ass.

- Mononoke



Pretty good AHL move ...
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 20 @ 3:30 PM ET
Has it been mentioned that Kyle Palmieri took Callahan's spot on the USA roster? They had a chance to put Kessel on it and make things right, and they chose Palmieri. Lol. As a proud American, I hope the USA team loses every game this dumb World Cup. It will be better for their future.
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