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Jul 26 @ 10:16 AM ET
I've tried to stay neutral on anything politics, as all it does is cause me to judge people on here when I read their views (no matter which side), but seeing this made me want to post - and it's to agree.
So many people complaining he got screwed, how they're not going to vote along the party lines because of it, then whatever "proof" comes out (I haven't read any of it) and THE MAN THESE PEOPLE PRAISE - a person who constantly talked about a "revolution" - isn't even putting up a big stink to contest anything!
I know it's futile to do so, but man, for someone saying revolution for months, this is his perfect chance to stir it up at the DNC. - stashu
The only issue is that Trump and Hilary are battling for Bernie's votes.
I've tried to stay neutral on anything politics, as all it does is cause me to judge people on here when I read their views (no matter which side), but seeing this made me want to post - and it's to agree.
So many people complaining he got screwed, how they're not going to vote along the party lines because of it, then whatever "proof" comes out (I haven't read any of it) and THE MAN THESE PEOPLE PRAISE - a person who constantly talked about a "revolution" - isn't even putting up a big stink to contest anything!
I know it's futile to do so, but man, for someone saying revolution for months, this is his perfect chance to stir it up at the DNC. - stashu
Clinton won the primaries by 3.7 million votes...she won virginia, florida, north Carolina, ohio, and Pennsylvania...in the final 12 contests she took eight of them...
sanders took Michigan, oregon and Wisconsin and a bunch of smaller states delegates
he ran a great race, but in the end it wasn't quite enough
There was zero payoff? The goal was to destroy the team and divide them
The first captain America what? It's not a bad movie but I didn't think it would be in anybody's top 10 around the world
how was Deadpool overrated do you know how much that money budget was imagine if they had money what they could've done he basically joked about it in the movie that movie was created for the fans and it was brilliant .. Ryan Reynolds put his heart on that movie he gave everything
Batman did not kill people in the darkest trilogy ever like he did in BVS .. He does not kill he believes in justice that's his number one rule - GERBE!!!75PTS
Off the top of my head he killed Ra's Harvey and Talia....
Off the top of my head he killed Ra's Harvey and Talia.... - Havic3814
He didn't kill Talia. She died in a car crash. He might have caused the crash but it's not like he shot her. As for Ras, didn't kill him either. "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you either". Ras died and Batman just didn't save him. That's like a quarter of a kill. Really the kill total is 1 with Harvey but it was to save a kid.
He didn't kill Talia. She died in a car crash. He might have caused the crash but it's not like he shot her. As for Ras, didn't kill him either. "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you either". Ras died and Batman just didn't save him. That's like a quarter of a kill. Really the kill total is 1 with Harvey but it was to save a kid. - Zschalberg
Haha no. Going back there are also all the assassins he killed when he blew up the compound in batman begins.
He caused that crash and she died of injuries he didn't directly kill her no, but his actions caused her death.
And yep he didn't save Ra's from the crashing train... who caused that crash oh right Gordon under orders from Batman in Batman's equipment.
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Jul 26 @ 10:45 AM ET
Clinton won the primaries by 3.7 million votes...she won virginia, florida, north Carolina, ohio, and Pennsylvania...in the final 12 contests she took eight of them...
sanders took Michigan, oregon and Wisconsin and a bunch of smaller states delegates
he ran a great race, but in the end it wasn't quite enough
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
Jul 26 @ 10:50 AM ET
Haha no. Going back there are also all the assassins he killed when he blew up the compound in batman begins.
He caused that crash and she died of injuries he didn't directly kill her no, but his actions caused her death.
And yep he didn't save Ra's from the crashing train... who caused that crash oh right Gordon under orders from Batman in Batman's equipment. - Havic3814
Batman does not go out of his way to murder people like he did in BVS
Batman does not go out of his way to murder people like he did in BVS - GERBE!!!75PTS
But he does kill, is it cold blooded murder no maybe not, but his actions directly or indirectly kill people multiple times... get over it, he's killed in the comics too even used a gun a few times to do so.
That being said the currently released DC movies are garbage.
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Jul 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
But he does kill, is it cold blooded murder no maybe not, but his actions directly or indirectly kill people multiple times... get over it, he's killed in the comics too even used a gun a few times to do so.
That being said the currently released DC movies are garbage. - Havic3814
Batman doesn't kill that is his rule Everyone knows this
Ra's al Ghul: Have you finally learned to do what is necessary?
The Joker: You have these rules, and you think they'll save you.
But he does kill, is it cold blooded murder no maybe not, but his actions directly or indirectly kill people multiple times... get over it, he's killed in the comics too even used a gun a few times to do so.
That being said the currently released DC movies are garbage. - Havic3814
I'm not arguing that he doesn't kill, I'm just saying it's not the way that he's generally disposing of his enemies. The assassins were before he was Batman, he was Bruce Wayne. He also was about to kill the guy who he though killed his parents, bought a gun and was going to murder him. But he wasn't Batman, he was Bruce Wayne at that time. He hadn't become Batman yet.
So we're back to Talia. She died at his hand. It's like a cop doing a pit maneuver in a car chase and the car flipping. They die, the cop did it, but it's not as though the cop shot the person. If you want to call that a kill then that's just splitting hairs but potato, tomato. It's the same for Ras as he wasn't trying to destroy the train to kill him, he was trying to destroy the train because it was going to destroy the city. Ras happened to be on it and instead of saving him he let him die. Again, he died and it's because of Batman so you can call it a kill if you want.
I agree the new ones weren't good. I enjoyed Man of Steel, BvS was really meh since they tried to make it extra dark and tried forcing it to be cool.
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Jul 26 @ 11:06 AM ET
I'm not arguing that he doesn't kill, I'm just saying it's not the way that he's generally disposing of his enemies. The assassins were before he was Batman, he was Bruce Wayne. He also was about to kill the guy who he though killed his parents, bought a gun and was going to murder him. But he wasn't Batman, he was Bruce Wayne at that time. He hadn't become Batman yet.
So we're back to Talia. She died at his hand. It's like a cop doing a pit maneuver in a car chase and the car flipping. They die, the cop did it, but it's not as though the cop shot the person. If you want to call that a kill then that's just splitting hairs but potato, tomato. It's the same for Ras as he wasn't trying to destroy the train to kill him, he was trying to destroy the train because it was going to destroy the city. Ras happened to be on it and instead of saving him he let him die. Again, he died and it's because of Batman so you can call it a kill if you want.
I agree the new ones weren't good. I enjoyed Man of Steel, BvS was really meh since they tried to make it extra dark and tried forcing it to be cool. - Zschalberg
Thank you if we watch The kill count in BVS here you'll see he just goes and just murders people
just because you copy lines from the movies doesn't take away from what he did...
and he went and killed harvey right after those last two - Havic3814
There's also the Killing Joke. I don't want to spoil anything if someone hasn't read that yet but that's one that anyone who likes Batman should look into
I'm not arguing that he doesn't kill, I'm just saying it's not the way that he's generally disposing of his enemies. The assassins were before he was Batman, he was Bruce Wayne. He also was about to kill the guy who he though killed his parents, bought a gun and was going to murder him. But he wasn't Batman, he was Bruce Wayne at that time. He hadn't become Batman yet.
So we're back to Talia. She died at his hand. It's like a cop doing a pit maneuver in a car chase and the car flipping. They die, the cop did it, but it's not as though the cop shot the person. If you want to call that a kill then that's just splitting hairs but potato, tomato. It's the same for Ras as he wasn't trying to destroy the train to kill him, he was trying to destroy the train because it was going to destroy the city. Ras happened to be on it and instead of saving him he let him die. Again, he died and it's because of Batman so you can call it a kill if you want.
I agree the new ones weren't good. I enjoyed Man of Steel, BvS was really meh since they tried to make it extra dark and tried forcing it to be cool. - Zschalberg
Im leaning towards his actions caused death... would they be considered "justified" by the society at large definitely, but to say that his hands aren't dirty
Yeah, can't watch at work but I'll believe you. From my memory of the movie I don't remember too much killing except for the dream sequences and maybe that one scene with the batmobile.
