I remember another GM for a Buffalo team who was prejudice against smaller players... Worked out realllll well for them.....
- bluengold12

You mean Regier, who drafted gerbe, Roy, Ennis, enroth and plant to name a few???

Trump is just as bad as Clinton. The guy was recently a democrat, he is just playing sides right now. Comparing Trump/Clinton/Johnson you will see that Johnson is the only one with a solid agenda. Just because you don't know anything about him doesn't mean he is a poor choice.
- doppelthat

i actually like a good portionof tne Libertarian platform, but Gary Johnson was so very undewhelming on thr CNN Town Hall broadcast that he wont get more than 10% ofthe vote ... so in essence a vote for him is like throwing away your vote.
Hillary consistently lies and the Cli tons have been involved in many shady deals.
Trump sayscwhats on his mind and acts like a bully offendkng. early everyone.
Great choices for sure.
my vote goes to Trump because I couldnt stand 4 years of Hillary's deceit

i actually like a good portionof tne Libertarian platform, but Gary Johnson was so very undewhelming on thr CNN Town Hall broadcast that he wont get more than 10% ofthe vote ... so in essence a vote for him is like throwing away your vote.
Hillary consistently lies and the Cli tons have been involved in many shady deals.
Trump sayscwhats on his mind and acts like a bully offendkng. early everyone.
Great choices for sure.
my vote goes to Trump because I couldnt stand 4 years of Hillary's deceit
- IonSabres

I despise the bolded sentence above as it is total nonsense.

Everyone is allowed to vote for who they think is the best candidate absent of worrying about if their candidate will win or not.

Is it Friday yet?

Is it Friday yet?
- washedup20

3 days 15hrs 24min

http://countdown.onlinecl...ck.net/countdowns/friday/

Trump is a pig... and pigs can only make slop out of what you give em

Clinton is a snake in tall grass... can never tell what its doing

Screw the vote bring it all down!!!!

(sorry i haven't had coffee yet)

I despise the bolded sentence above as it is total nonsense.

Everyone is allowed to vote for who they think is the best candidate absent of worrying about if their candidate will win or not.
- kingcong39

its because of that statement that we essentially only have 2 parties.. which leads to us having so many useless politicians

I despise the bolded sentence above as it is total nonsense.

Everyone is allowed to vote for who they think is the best candidate absent of worrying about if their candidate will win or not.
- kingcong39

ok, but the reality is what it is ... doesnt mean people are wrong for doing so, and I never said that. in fact I did vote for Perot so Im not cadting stones...but it did help the other side win. fact is fact.
my thought is vote...period.

its because of that statement that we essentially only have 2 parties.. which leads to us having so many useless politicians
- IndianaSabresFan

No, IMO the issue is no 3rd party has attracted a suitable candidate yet...Johnson may be very very qualified as a Governor...but he is like a bland overcooked noodle .. he cant attract enough attention to make it matter. Sadly, it would take a Trump-esk personnality to gain the nations' attention.
i would love a viable 3rd party as neither thd Repubs nor Demos really fepresent my thoughts...both ade too extreme to the sides

Hillary Clinton is going to win for 4 reasons:

1. It's debatable that Trump even wants the job (see the offer to Kasich).

2. Trump is one on the severe short end of the stick when it comes to fundraising. While it's true he has self funded his campaigns (where the money legitimately comes from is a different debate), the fact is the major GOP donors have gone on record saying that they are sitting this one out.

3. The GOP is a mess. Half the party won't support him.

4. The election is hinged more on social issues (as opposed to economic) more than it ever has been before, at least in a long, long time, and GOP positions are by far the less popular when it comes to those.

If I am a Democratic strategist this week, my theme is "make this convention as boring as possible". The only way the Democrats can lose is if they say or do something monumentally stupid, and even that might not be enough to lose.

Hillary Clinton is going to win for 4 reasons:

1. It's debatable that he even wants the job (see the offer to Kasich).

2. He's on the severe short end of the stick when it comes to fundraising. While it's true he has self funded his campaigns (where the money legitimately comes from is a different debate), the fact is the major GOP donors have gone on record saying that they are sitting this one out.

3. The GOP is a mess. Half the party won't support him.

4. The election is hinged more on social issues (as opposed to economic) more than it ever has been before, at least in a long, long time, and GOP positions are by far the less popular when it comes to those.

If I am a Democratic strategist this week, my theme is "make this convention as boring as possible". The only way the Democrats can lose is if they say or do something monumentally stupid, and even that might not be enough to lose.
- buffalofan19

they are geting close, hell of a way to open the convention this morning

I despise the bolded sentence above as it is total nonsense.

Everyone is allowed to vote for who they think is the best candidate absent of worrying about if their candidate will win or not.
- kingcong39

Everybody can vote for who they think is the best. The problem for third party candidates is that the majority of voters don't do that. You can hate the stance that a vote for a third party is a vote for *insert more deplorable candidate here*, but the reality is that it's the line of thinking of the majority of the voter base, liberal or conservative. The only way that changes is if a third party candidate gets some major financial backing from somewhere. And usually, when that happens, one of the two major parties tends to sweep him up.

No, IMO the issue is no 3rd party has attracted a suitable candidate yet...Johnson may be very very qualified as a Governor...but he is like a bland overcooked noodle .. he cant attract enough attention to make it matter. Sadly, it would take a Trump-esk personnality to gain the nations' attention.
i would love a viable 3rd party as neither thd Repubs nor Demos really fepresent my thoughts...both ade too extreme to the sides
- IonSabres

Or someone with really deep pockets.

No, IMO the issue is no 3rd party has attracted a suitable candidate yet...Johnson may be very very qualified as a Governor...but he is like a bland overcooked noodle .. he cant attract enough attention to make it matter. Sadly, it would take a Trump-esk personnality to gain the nations' attention.
i would love a viable 3rd party as neither thd Repubs nor Demos really fepresent my thoughts...both ade too extreme to the sides
- IonSabres

but is that because anyone who would be a viable candidate believes the only way they can win is if they join the 2 main parties?

Hillary Clinton is going to win for 4 reasons:

1. It's debatable that Trump even wants the job (see the offer to Kasich).

2. Trump is one on the severe short end of the stick when it comes to fundraising. While it's true he has self funded his campaigns (where the money legitimately comes from is a different debate), the fact is the major GOP donors have gone on record saying that they are sitting this one out.

3. The GOP is a mess. Half the party won't support him.

4. The election is hinged more on social issues (as opposed to economic) more than it ever has been before, at least in a long, long time, and GOP positions are by far the less popular when it comes to those.

If I am a Democratic strategist this week, my theme is "make this convention as boring as possible". The only way the Democrats can lose is if they say or do something monumentally stupid, and even that might not be enough to lose.
- buffalofan19

the fact that a presidential election is so strongly based upon social issues is terrible. but i have a feeling you are correct and in reality both of these people scare me.

Hillary Clinton is going to win for 4 reasons:

1. It's debatable that Trump even wants the job (see the offer to Kasich).

2. Trump is one on the severe short end of the stick when it comes to fundraising. While it's true he has self funded his campaigns (where the money legitimately comes from is a different debate), the fact is the major GOP donors have gone on record saying that they are sitting this one out.

3. The GOP is a mess. Half the party won't support him.

4. The election is hinged more on social issues (as opposed to economic) more than it ever has been before, at least in a long, long time, and GOP positions are by far the less popular when it comes to those.

If I am a Democratic strategist this week, my theme is "make this convention as boring as possible". The only way the Democrats can lose is if they say or do something monumentally stupid, and even that might not be enough to lose.
- buffalofan19

I agree with most of what you said here. In point 1, what offer to Kasich are you referring to? Also, I do think he wants the job. I think if his goal was to destroy the party, he already accomplished that but he could have conceded the nomination this past week and it would have been a pretty crushing blow to the GOP.

I agree with most of what you said here. In point 1, what offer to Kasich are you referring to? Also, I do think he wants the job. I think if his goal was to destroy the party, he already accomplished that but he could have conceded the nomination this past week and it would have been a pretty crushing blow to the GOP.
- Phatjohnsn

http://www.esquire.com/ne.../trump-kasich-presidency/

its because of that statement that we essentially only have 2 parties.. which leads to us having so many useless politicians
- IndianaSabresFan

Over $5B expected to be spent this presidential campaign which makes it pretty hard for a third party candidate to get funded or noticed. Also a country as deeply divided on social, economic and racial lines leads to a two party system with huge fights inside each party to get the nomination.

There is nothing wrong with voting for a candidate you dislike least if you hate the other one.

the fact that a presidential election is so strongly based upon social issues is terrible. but i have a feeling you are correct and in reality both of these people scare me.
- IndianaSabresFan

Agreed, but that is what my generation (Generation X/Millennial) has been schooled to believe is a priority, through both the media and the education system, and we make up a majority of the voter base now.

but is that because anyone who would be a viable candidate believes the only way they can win is if they join the 2 main parties?
- IndianaSabresFan

I cant argue that logic..it.is the path of least resistence, and cant blame them either...that said, we do. need a.legimate 3rd party.
Now the Repub old guard is funny, the party is imploding because a large percentage do t agree with tbeir age old policies, so they decide to sit on the sidelines waiting for Trump to blow up...but he keeps winning flashing tbe big middle finger at them.

I cant argue that logic..it.is the path of least resistence, and cant blame them either...that said, we do. need a.legimate 3rd party.
Now the Repub old guard is funny, the party is imploding because a large percentage do t agree with tbeir age old policies, so they decide to sit on the sidelines waiting for Trump to blow up...but he keeps winning flashing tbe big middle finger at them.
- IonSabres

The problem with the legitimate 3rd party candidate is that if he gains enough popularity, one of the two major parties will snatch him up. The only way this doesn't happen is if he has enough money to not be interested.

Agreed, but that is what my generation (Generation X/Millennial) has been schooled to believe is a priority, through both the media and the education system, and we make up a majority of the voter base now.
- buffalofan19

And that's why Trump exists in the first place. The gimme crowd is going to destroy this country.

The problem with the legitimate 3rd party candidate is that if he gains enough popularity, one of the two major parties will snatch him up. The only way this doesn't happen is if he has enough money to not be interested.
- buffalofan19

Trump-esk. Personality and Money.
Bloomberg has money but he is a dead fish as well.

eh! Just get out and vote is what I say.

Trump-esk. Personality and Money.
Bloomberg has money but he is a dead fish as well.

eh! Just get out and vote is what I say.
- IonSabres

And yet, he is still running under the Republican platform...

And that's why Trump exists in the first place. The gimme crowd is going to destroy this country.
- Khmylev

maybe, but the decline started back with entitlements...they grew from short-term safety nets to long term dependentcies that has built a culture of those who expect the Government to support them and it is never enough. im all.for heelping the less.fortunate, but lets not. deed generations of those wbo think I should work to support their lazy asses