Shattenkirk to NYR seems to be the hot rumor atm and nothing would surprise me with the Rags, they could pull that off, especially if they retain some of Nash's salary.

Murray spoke very highly about Nylander getting a good shot at making the roster.
- mhp

Nylander will still have his chance even if we got both Nash and Vessey. I just don't expect him to make good on that chance. I don't think he's all that good that he's going straight into the NHL. I'd rather not rush him

Remember the beginning of the off-season where people were talking about offer sheets and how they'll finally be done this year?

Those were good times. Offer sheets don't happen. They just don't.
- Zschalberg

A fabled idea that comes from the same tree as the so called hometown discount.

I think Gerbe was the only one calling for it .

Remember the beginning of the off-season where people were talking about offer sheets and how they'll finally be done this year?

Those were good times. Offer sheets don't happen. They just don't.
- Zschalberg

Technically you don't really know that, all you know is no players have signed one yet.

Technically you don't really know that, all you know is no players have signed one yet.
- stashu

So technically as of "yet" . He is correct

So technically as of "yet" . He is correct
- cabin

That depends on what your definition of "Is" is.....

sorry i just want to feel included its lonely in the office today....

Remember the beginning of the off-season where people were talking about offer sheets and how they'll finally be done this year?

Those were good times. Offer sheets don't happen. They just don't.
- Zschalberg

They don't happen and it's not because of the fear of getting poached later. It's simply the fact that, in order to get a player to sign an offer sheet that the other team won't match, you have to exceed market value by a considerable margin. Otherwise, you're simply doing the negotiating for the team with his rights.

That depends on what your definition of "Is" is.....

sorry i just want to feel included its lonely in the office today....
- Havic3814

"Uh, sir, we need some certification!"

"Uh, sir, we need some certification!"
- stashu

A fabled idea that comes from the same tree as the so called hometown discount.

I think Gerbe was the only one calling for it .
- cabin

I wasn't going to name drop. But we all have the same conversations each year and each year nothing happens. I'd like to see after the next lockout the compensation values decrease a bit to maybe try to point GMs in that direction. I think it's good for the game.

They don't happen and it's not because of the fear of getting poached later. It's simply the fact that, in order to get a player to sign an offer sheet that the other team won't match, you have to exceed market value by a considerable margin. Otherwise, you're simply doing the negotiating for the team with his rights.
- buffalofan19

I won't say they never happen because of the very reason you mentioned. I think the one scenario in which an offer sheet would be successful is when the team delivering the offer sheet sees far more value in the player than the team receiving it.

Girgensons may be a decent example here. If a team saw Girgensons as a potential top 6 forward (I know I know just work with me here) because of his play in the past and his draft status then an offer sheet at say 4 and 3.7 mil a year wouldn't be so bad, you only give up a 2nd rounder in that scenario. If the sabres didn't view him as highly, it's unlikely that they would match that. Not because they think he's only worth a 2nd rounder but because you don't want to be paying a guy you see in your bottom 6 long term 3.7 mil a year.

The likelihood of all of this happening is minimal as those kinds of players are usually just traded before July 1 but I won't go as far as saying it will never happen.

"Uh, sir, we need some certification!"
- stashu

Lol thanks Stash!


seriously... i feel like i missed senior skip day or something... usually 80 people in this suite... there is maybe 25 today

I won't say they never happen because of the very reason you mentioned. I think the one scenario in which an offer sheet would be successful is when the team delivering the offer sheet sees far more value in the player than the team receiving it.

Girgensons may be a decent example here. If a team saw Girgensons as a potential top 6 forward (I know I know just work with me here) because of his play in the past and his draft status then an offer sheet at say 4 and 3.7 mil a year wouldn't be so bad, you only give up a 2nd rounder in that scenario. If the sabres didn't view him as highly, it's unlikely that they would match that. Not because they think he's only worth a 2nd rounder but because you don't want to be paying a guy you see in your bottom 6 long term 3.7 mil a year.

The likelihood of all of this happening is minimal as those kinds of players are usually just traded before July 1 but I won't go as far as saying it will never happen.
- Sabresfan-365

Agreed, but you're still offering well above market value for him in this case. That's the only way you make a successful offer sheet.

I wasn't going to name drop. But we all have the same conversations each year and each year nothing happens. I'd like to see after the next lockout the compensation values decrease a bit to maybe try to point GMs in that direction. I think it's good for the game.
- Zschalberg

I agree. Would make July 1st even more interesting knowing that you could see 5 or so offer sheets out there.

I agree. Would make July 1st even more interesting knowing that you could see 5 or so offer sheets out there.
- cabin

The lockout is a topic that we haven't beaten to death yet. How long do we think this one will be? Will it take up none of the season, half the season, full season, more?

I'd say another half of a season.

Agreed, but you're still offering well above market value for him in this case. That's the only way you make a successful offer sheet.
- buffalofan19

...Maybe. It's below market value if you believe the player you're getting is a top 6 forward.

I won't say they never happen because of the very reason you mentioned. I think the one scenario in which an offer sheet would be successful is when the team delivering the offer sheet sees far more value in the player than the team receiving it.

Girgensons may be a decent example here. If a team saw Girgensons as a potential top 6 forward (I know I know just work with me here) because of his play in the past and his draft status then an offer sheet at say 4 and 3.7 mil a year wouldn't be so bad, you only give up a 2nd rounder in that scenario. If the sabres didn't view him as highly, it's unlikely that they would match that. Not because they think he's only worth a 2nd rounder but because you don't want to be paying a guy you see in your bottom 6 long term 3.7 mil a year.

The likelihood of all of this happening is minimal as those kinds of players are usually just traded before July 1 but I won't go as far as saying it will never happen.
- Sabresfan-365

Good example is Jacob Trouba. Other teams could view him as a potential 1, WPG already has there 1 signed long term.

The lockout is a topic that we haven't beaten to death yet. How long do we think this one will be? Will it take up none of the season, half the season, full season, more?

I'd say another half of a season.
- Zschalberg

I think none of a season. Both parties seem to be happy with the way it's moving along. But I'm sure there will be some items that could cause some friction. Concessions would be one . No one likes to have things taken away.

How did it compare to the second(new series) one?
- Wetbandit1

I rank second one as the best, then this one a tad behind

Never bothered to look because I never really cared, but now I'm curious...how did you win this?
- buffalofan19

ek had a challenge

listed 20 head to head match ups, you had to pick the player that would score more goals this year from the 2

if you challenged him, you win a season ticket or donate $20 to cancer research if you lose


the ape won the contest with 17 right out of 20

5 of us got 16 right


ek got like 7 right

If this is all true about Kane damn ..

Ashley Rowe

Ashley Rowe ‏@AshleyroweWKBW
NEW: What the bouncer says happened w/ Evander Kane that night at a Buffalo bar, which led to Kane's arrest #Sabres

Video here ..

https://mobile.twitter.co...status/758069280340574208
- GERBE!!!75PTS

if there is video, real good chance he is doing time

the POS said "I'll pretend you didn't say that"


I am done with him

Good example is Jacob Trouba. Other teams could view him as a potential 1, WPG already has there 1 signed long term.
- sbroads24

Agreed. Also helps that WPG arent really big on handing out those long term deals and the speculation that for whatever reason they aren't as high on him.

Agreed, but you're still offering well above market value for him in this case. That's the only way you make a successful offer sheet.
- buffalofan19

The combination of the elevated celery and multiple first round draft picks makes the offer sheet a non-started. I am always amazed when it comes up here as it never happens in real life.

I rank second one as the best, then this one a tad behind
- homiedclown

1st one was great . Still need to see the 2nd.

if there is video, real good chance he is doing time

the POS said "I'll pretend you didn't say that"


I am done with him
- homiedclown

If there was a video of him doing something criminal I would imagine that he would be charged with a far different crime.

1st one was great . Still need to see the 2nd.
- cabin

first one was a distant 3rd in my rankings