Carle had his best season as a Flyer when Pronger was injured and out of the lineup for most of the season. That Carle couldn't play without Pronger was a myth.
- MJL

Which season was this? Carle had 40 points and a plus 30 rating in the 2010-11 season where Pronger played 50 games, which is more than half the season. Carle went on to collect 38 points with a plus 4 rating the following season when Pronger only played 1e games before having his career end with another injury.

I added that since you always have a pesimistic attitude it seems.

How many teams have a player nominated for each of those awards every year? If there is a team every year it's only one and not the same year after year. That's how it's unrealistic. Hockey is a tough sport that teams have to deal with cycles. You are seeing the Flyers coming out of the down cycle yet all your comments are you want it now. Wait a few years and you may see what you want. But it takes one this this town has very little of, something called Patience. Which is exactly what Hextall is using in building this team.
- dragonoffrost

So you're gonna give me attitude when I'm not giving attitude? My, you certainly are a much bigger man than I am. All for what? Because I want to contend for more than just Cups? What's wrong with that??

I said contend, not win and as I just stated with names, the Blackhawks do it. The Kings do it when they were winning. The Red Wings did it when they were winning. The Devils were doing it when they were winning. Lidstrom, Brodeur, Datsyuk, Kane, Keith, Doughty, Neidermyer, Zetterberg, Toews, Fedorov.....Do I need to go on? They didn't always win but the players always contended for something every year.

My comments aren't all of what I want now. When did I say this? Even if I did, so what.

So you're gonna give me attitude when I'm not giving attitude? My, you certainly are a much bigger man than I am. All for what? Because I want to contending for more than just Cups? What's wrong with that??

I said contend, not win and as I just stated with names, the Blackhawks do it. The Kings do it when they were winning. The Red Wings did it when they wete winning. The Devils were doing it when they were winning. Lidstrom, Brodeur, Datsyuk, Kane, Keith, Doughty, Neidermyer, Zetterberg, Toews, Fedorov.....Do I need to go on? They didn't always win but the players always contended for something every year.

My comments aren't all of what I want now. When did I say this? Even if I did, so what.
- roenick97

more than cups?? what else is there?

more than cups?? what else is there?
- sjk540

We need hockey.

Some of these conversations are just wow.

Edit: But id did find it funny that the Eagles were awarded the 2017 NFL draft the year they lack a 1st round pick.

more than cups?? what else is there?
- sjk540

We need hockey.

Some of these conversations are just wow.

Edit: But id did find it funny that the Eagles were awarded the 2017 NFL draft the year they lack a 1st round pick.
- J35Bacher

Truer words have never been spoken.

more than cups?? what else is there?
- sjk540

I know about to turn into the villian again by making this comment, even though I am talking hockey but seriously, back read. You only have to go back one page.

I had seat for years in the Flyers d zone and it seemed that every time a late game costly turnover happened it was either Coburn or Carle making it the last two years of their tenure here. You could tell because as the goal was scored one of those two was skating away head down.
- dragonoffrost

Many have to prepare themselves for these situations over the next several seasons.

Having a young D core will be as frustrating as it is exciting at times. Ghost already had a few of those moments last season but his golden aura is still well intact. I see Morin/Sanheim as the most likely scape goats but all of these guys are going to make mistakes, sometimes critical ones.

We need hockey.

Some of these conversations are just wow.

Edit: But id did find it funny that the Eagles were awarded the 2017 NFL draft the year they lack a 1st round pick.
- J35Bacher

i was thinking that as soon as i heard we were in the discussion for it. its typical for us, not even surprised a little bit.

I know about to turn into the villian again by making this comment, even though I am talking hockey but seriously, back read. You only have to go back one page.
- roenick97

i was hoping you would say something else but ur seriously hoping each and every year for a vezina or hart as much as a cup? the fact that ur even rooting for individual awards on any level as the cup is preposterous. hockey is the ultimate team game, its the reason why its the best pure sport left in the world, its a breath of fresh air to see guys going to battle for each other night in and night out on the ultimate stage, these guys live and die by each other, theyre friends, roommates, best men, g-dfathers, to each other. and your worried about us not getting an award based solely on an individuals performance?

u understand why ur being the villain by making claims like that right?

Truer words have never been spoken.
- BiggE

amen

more than cups?? what else is there?
- sjk540

Boobs

So let me get this right. In talking about past players and what they've accomplished, nobody cares about winning scoring titles because when Giroux was coming close year after year, there was a great pride among everyone here when we weren't playing for anything but Giroux nearly won the scoring title twice in three seasons and contended for the hart trophy. Stuff like this is remembered and spoken highly of around here to make points whether a player might be a Flyer or not.

This is just a popularity contest as BiggE is now proving. If someone doesn't like something a post, they goat me into an argument because of something I said that upset them last week.

Boobs
- jmatchett383

welcome back.

So let me get this right. In talking about past players and what they've accomplished, nobody cares about winning scoring titles because when Giroux was coming close year after year, there was a great pride among everyone here when we weren't playing for anything but Giroux nearly won the scoring title twice in three seasons and contended for the hart trophy. Stuff like this is remembered and spoken highly of around here to make points whether a player might be a Flyer or not.

This is just a popularity contest as BiggE is now proving. If someone doesn't like something a post, they goat me into an argument because of something I said that upset them last week.
- roenick97

Oh no, did I hurt your wittle feelings.

Oh no, did I hurt your wittle feelings.


- BiggE

Oh no, did I hurt your wittle feelings.


- BiggE

Test

Edit: Weird...It let me post, then I went to post again, and it said I was still banned.

Edit: I stand by what I said.

i was hoping you would say something else but ur seriously hoping each and every year for a vezina or hart as much as a cup? the fact that ur even rooting for individual awards on any level as the cup is preposterous. hockey is the ultimate team game, its the reason why its the best pure sport left in the world, its a breath of fresh air to see guys going to battle for each other night in and night out on the ultimate stage, these guys live and die by each other, theyre friends, roommates, best men, g-dfathers, to each other. and your worried about us not getting an award based solely on an individuals performance?

u understand why ur being the villain by making claims like that right?
- sjk540

This is a great rationalization to keep from taking a long look at yourself but I'm a villian for posting what I would like to see moving forward?

Excellent job Bill, as usual. It seems that Ken Dryden is the only one left from that era who still doesn't recognize the talent the Flyers had on those teams. Phil Esposito, in particular, always talks about how good the Flyers really were.

Oh no, did I hurt your wittle feelings.


- BiggE

Well is this how it's gonna be? I simply can't talk hockey without people turning something into something? I mean, how old are we?

Tets

Edit: Weird...It let me post, then I went to post again, and it said I was still banned.
- jmatchett383

I blame Garth.

Well is this how it's gonna be? I simply can't talk hockey without people turning something into something? I mean, how old are we?
- roenick97

It's not you, it's just everyone else.

Well is this how it's gonna be? I simply can't talk hockey without people turning something into something? I mean, how old are we?
- roenick97

The fact that you actually take anything said around here seriously is sad.
Lighten up.

It's not you, it's just everyone else.
- jmatchett383

The fact that you actually take anything said around here seriously is sad.
Lighten up.
- BiggE

Are you saying you don't take boobs seriously?

So let me get this right. In talking about past players and what they've accomplished, nobody cares about winning scoring titles because when Giroux was coming close year after year, there was a great pride among everyone here when we weren't playing for anything but Giroux nearly won the scoring title twice in three seasons and contended for the hart trophy. Stuff like this is remembered and spoken highly of around here to make points whether a player might be a Flyer or not.

This is just a popularity contest as BiggE is now proving. If someone doesn't like something a post, they goat me into an argument because of something I said that upset them last week.
- roenick97

I agree completely that team goals and winning the Cup is far more important than individual awards. However, there are frequent conversations on here about individual awards and how many felt Gostisbehere deserved the Calder. That went on for days. Or how Giroux or another player was snubbed by Team Canada.