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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 8:09 PM ET
You said Benning knows rebuilds don't sell tickets. We are three years deep already in a rebuild . It is not like we have to start one this year
- VANTEL

How does it take to get from the beginning of a rebuild to being a contender again?

5 years, 7 ?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 27 @ 8:13 PM ET
How does it take to get from the beginning of a rebuild to being a contender again?

5 years, 7 ?

- belcherbd

It's supposed to be 5 but most teams just can't get it done in that time.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 27 @ 8:19 PM ET
It's supposed to be 5 but most teams just can't get it done in that time.
- LordHumungous

3-7 years is probably more likely. It depends on what you already have coming up when you start, as well as the talent available where you draft. A few young studs can invigorate an old line-up and then take over after the elders leave the team. Our biggest problem is that we have nobody to definitely replace Hank. I think Boeser could be a replacement for Daniel personally, i see him as a 30-40 goal player when Daniel retires.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 8:34 PM ET
Ah, you quoted the wrong one, hence the confusion. Yes you can't sell a rebuild to fans, and ultimately with no clear cut #1 center coming, you can't say our rebuild is 100% complete. BoHo could become that #1 center, he has the potential, just more likely a solid 2c.
- Retinalz

I think they are close to 80 % done. Now one maybe two trades and draft regular draft picks
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 27 @ 8:36 PM ET
I think they are close to 80 % done. Now one maybe two trades and draft regular draft picks
- VANTEL

I think the only piece we are missing is a clear cut 1c to replace Hank. Once we have that the rebuild can be called over.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 8:40 PM ET
How does it take to get from the beginning of a rebuild to being a contender again?

5 years, 7 ?

- belcherbd

Yeah we are three years in
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 8:44 PM ET
I think the only piece we are missing is a clear cut 1c to replace Hank. Once we have that the rebuild can be called over.
- Retinalz

I hear Tavares is available



I think we draft a center next year.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 27 @ 8:52 PM ET
I hear Tavares is available



I think we draft a center next year.

- VANTEL

true, but unless we draft high it is hard to say we will draft that true 1c until we see them play. Plus Tavares is going to Toronto, just like Stamkos did
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 27 @ 8:57 PM ET
true, but unless we draft high it is hard to say we will draft that true 1c until we see them play. Plus Tavares is going to Toronto, just like Stamkos did
- Retinalz

We'll be drafting high.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 27 @ 9:03 PM ET
We'll be drafting high.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Unless we win the lotto, I don't see us picking top 5.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
Yeah we are three years in
- VANTEL

So we are contendiers in 2 years maybe 4?

I don't see it. Joulevi and Demo might just be starting their careers, two of our most important prospects.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
So we are contendiers in 2 years maybe 4?

I don't see it. Joulevi and Demo might just be starting their careers, two of our most important prospects.

- belcherbd

How many franchises have gone from close to last place in the Torts years to a contender in 5 years? Tough thing to do in the salary cap era. Growth YOY is what's important
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:28 PM ET
How many franchises have gone from close to last place in the Torts years to a contender in 5 years? Tough thing to do in the salary cap era. Growth YOY is what's important
- CanuckDon

I could see it in a 6 team league.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:29 PM ET
Unless we win the lotto, I don't see us picking top 5.
- Retinalz

I see us picking top 10.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 9:41 PM ET
I could see it in a 6 team league.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Fans deserve a competitive product and playoffs should always be the goal. We will likely be in the hunt for a playoff spot this year but we won't be a contender for a awhile. The new regime inherited an organization with 2 legitimate prospects. They aren't miracle workers and patience is needed
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 27 @ 9:56 PM ET
Fans deserve a competitive product and playoffs should always be the goal. We will likely be in the hunt for a playoff spot this year but we won't be a contender for a awhile. The new regime inherited an organization with 2 legitimate prospects. They aren't miracle workers and patience is needed
- CanuckDon

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 10:14 PM ET
true, but unless we draft high it is hard to say we will draft that true 1c until we see them play. Plus Tavares is going to Toronto, just like Stamkos did
- Retinalz



I look at Boeser who what's drafted in the twenties, he has top line skill. We can do the same with center
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 27 @ 10:32 PM ET
Unless we win the lotto, I don't see us picking top 5.
- Retinalz

I see us finishing 14-20. Ih healthy we will flirt with that WC spot and if decimated by injuries out of the PO's.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 27 @ 10:34 PM ET
I look at Boeser who what's drafted in the twenties, he has top line skill. We can do the same with center
- VANTEL

I don't disagree, but there are more top 9 players in later rounds, than top 3 players.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 10:35 PM ET
Fans deserve a competitive product and playoffs should always be the goal. We will likely be in the hunt for a playoff spot this year but we won't be a contender for a awhile. The new regime inherited an organization with 2 legitimate prospects. They aren't miracle workers and patience is needed
- CanuckDon


I agree, who were those 2 legit prospects out of curiosity? Bo and shink? Hutton ? Markstrom? Corrado?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 10:50 PM ET
I agree, who were those 2 legit prospects out of curiosity? Bo and shink? Hutton ? Markstrom? Corrado?
- belcherbd

Tanev was starting his full third year when Benning arrived? Was he a prospect?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 27 @ 11:00 PM ET
We have only one, Gil Perreault. He finished with 512 goals and 814 assists for 1,326 points. He spent his entire career with us. Dave Andreychuk is #2 with 804 points.
- mhp


Hey bro, have you found a new home?

Glad to read that you're about to enjoy retirement. Good on ya.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 27 @ 11:05 PM ET
I see us finishing 14-20. Ih healthy we will flirt with that WC spot and if decimated by injuries out of the PO's.
- LordHumungous


It's so hard to predict. Our top line C was an ironman for close to a decade, and much like BMo since he missed that 1st game has been seemingly injured often since. Even if he plays a full season, I don't have a whole bunch of faith that he'll do it near full health due to his age.

Add in the fact that one of our goalies, top wingers, and top D are also aging/and or injury prone and I could see us finishing either in a wild card spot if we remain healthy or right near or at the bottom if we don't.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 27 @ 11:52 PM ET
Utica loves the Comets . It is a big part of there culture. Linden also said Comets have 41 home games and 41 more away/home games meaning the fans travel well with their support. No reason to move them at all. We get our weekly reports and we can follow on Internet.
- VANTEL


I agree. Awesome market. I'd love to make it to a game out there sometime. I heard that a fan with a fake leg had taken it off and was using it as a beer receptacle during their Calder run. Not quite the Stanley Cup, but still pretty sweet.

Honestly, I'm not too upset over the farm team being so far away. I'm not sure being closer to Vancouver and Vancouver media would be the best thing for their development.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 28 @ 12:09 AM ET
Tanev was starting his full third year when Benning arrived? Was he a prospect?
- VANTEL

Nah, I don't think he counts. Although definitely was clearly a building block at that time.
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