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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Aug 4 @ 1:00 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Olli Juolevi Content to Wait to Sign Entry-Level Contract Vancouver Canucks ownership scores reasonably well in this week's ranking at The Score, Canucks prospects were idle in Wednesday's Summer Showcase games in Michigan, Olli Juolevi says he's not worried about the status of his entry-level contract and Brendan Gaunce wants to make an impact at the NHL level next season.
LordHumungous
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Aug 4 @ 1:08 PM ET
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LeftCoaster
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Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 4 @ 1:15 PM ET
Brendan Gaunce really surprised me with his improved skating, he wasn't really a factor in his late season call-up due to all the supposed "injuries", but I like him as a bottom six guy.

Hopefully he can make the jump to the NHL level and be more consistent. Same can actually be said for Etem, he needs to show he can bring it every night.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 4 @ 1:23 PM ET
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
Brendan Gaunce really surprised me with his improved skating, he wasn't really a factor in his late season call-up due to all the supposed "injuries", but I like him as a bottom six guy.

Hopefully he can make the jump to the NHL level and be more consistent. Same can actually be said for Etem, he needs to show he can bring it every night.

- LeftCoaster

Agree he looked much improved at the beginning of camp last season. Hoping for more.

I think with increased TOI Etem will be a factor.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 4 @ 1:41 PM ET
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
Brendan Gaunce really surprised me with his improved skating, he wasn't really a factor in his late season call-up due to all the supposed "injuries", but I like him as a bottom six guy.

Hopefully he can make the jump to the NHL level and be more consistent. Same can actually be said for Etem, he needs to show he can bring it every night.

- LeftCoaster


It's highly unlikely he ever becomes an offensive player in the NHL so if he wants a job he needs grow a pair and play physical. He has the size but not the desire. Hopefully he proves me wrong this season.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 4 @ 1:52 PM ET

- Marwood

In continuation of the last blog Marwood. I also find it hilarious posters don't think a 20 year old Virtanen can beat out a 34 year old Burrows. Burrows CAN'T skate. Just because he said he is working out harder people think he will "reinvent" his game? You slow down as you get older, he can't come close to JV's speed or physicality.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
In continuation of the last blog Marwood. I also find it hilarious posters don't think a 20 year old Virtanen can beat out a 34 year old Burrows. Burrows CAN'T skate. Just because he said he is working out harder people think he will "reinvent" his game? You slow down as you get older, he can't come close to JV's speed or physicality.
- CanuckDon


How about JV's inconsistency?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 4 @ 2:00 PM ET
In continuation of the last blog Marwood. I also find it hilarious posters don't think a 20 year old Virtanen can beat out a 34 year old Burrows. Burrows CAN'T skate. Just because he said he is working out harder people think he will "reinvent" his game? You slow down as you get older, he can't come close to JV's speed or physicality.
- CanuckDon

It's best to demote the young players and stall their development. The same people screaming to buy out Burrows are now saying demote Virtanen so that Burrows can play. Again, we desperately need a head exploding emoji!!
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
It's highly unlikely he ever becomes an offensive player in the NHL so if he wants a job he needs grow a pair and play physical. He has the size but not the desire. Hopefully he proves me wrong this season.
- CanuckDon


He is built like an ox but appears to be the sensitive type. he won a few foot races last year. if he is consistently a bit more physical, don't know how WD could keep him out of the lineup.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 4 @ 2:09 PM ET
It's best to demote the young players and stall their development. The same people screaming to buy out Burrows are now saying demote Virtanen so that Burrows can play. Again, we desperately need a head exploding emoji!!
- Marwood


JV should get time in Utica to get more ice time and play in every situation. Work on his offensive game, try different stuff, learn more structure, play first unit pp. so pk work too. make some mistakes, not as costly.

What is better for JV's development, 3rd or 4th line with the Canucks or 1st line with the Comets? If 4th line with the Canucks, I'd say Comets is better. 3rd line, it might be a bit more of a toss up, if JV gets pp or pk time with the Canucks...

If Burrows doesn't make the club, by all means, send him to Utica. If JV starts the season in Utica, I'd guess he would be with the Canucks at the finish.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
How about JV's inconsistency?
- bloatedmosquito


I totally agree, it's unlikely a 20 year old can improve over the summer and impossible for him to be more consistent. Time to move on from JV as he has likely peaked
Rocket_Launcher
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 06.10.2016

Aug 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
JV should get time in Utica to get more ice time and play in every situation. Work on his offensive game, try different stuff, learn more structure, play first unit pp. so pk work too. make some mistakes, not as costly.

What is better for JV's development, 3rd or 4th line with the Canucks or 1st line with the Comets? If 4th line with the Canucks, I'd say Comets is better. 3rd line, it might be a bit more of a toss up, if JV gets pp or pk time with the Canucks...

If Burrows doesn't make the club, by all means, send him to Utica. If JV starts the season in Utica, I'd guess he would be with the Canucks at the finish.

- hillbillydeluxe


I don't see the Canucks sending Burrows to the minors - he's meant more to the team than Chris Higgens. If Burrows does not make the team, I think the Canucks do him good by just releasing him and seeing if he an catch on with another team.

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 4 @ 2:31 PM ET
I don't see the Canucks sending Burrows to the minors - he's meant more to the team than Chris Higgens. If Burrows does not make the team, I think the Canucks do him good by just releasing him and seeing if he an catch on with another team.
- Rocket_Launcher


Not to start the season, unless he was just terrible.

I'm unsure how releasing Burrows would work, if he would want to be released or just go to Utica and continue to get paid? If you can't make the Canucks, not sure how attractive you would be to another team.

I'm a Burrows fan. but it is a business. whatever is good for the Canucks, short vs long term will be considered.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
JV should get time in Utica to get more ice time and play in every situation. Work on his offensive game, try different stuff, learn more structure, play first unit pp. so pk work too. make some mistakes, not as costly.

What is better for JV's development, 3rd or 4th line with the Canucks or 1st line with the Comets? If 4th line with the Canucks, I'd say Comets is better. 3rd line, it might be a bit more of a toss up, if JV gets pp or pk time with the Canucks...

If Burrows doesn't make the club, by all means, send him to Utica. If JV starts the season in Utica, I'd guess he would be with the Canucks at the finish.

- hillbillydeluxe

3rd or 4th line with the Canucks.
dirt_face
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.12.2011

Aug 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
Last summer we read about Hutton's determination to make the team and thought it was a giant long shot but because of his smarts and skating ability the Canucks couldn't keep him off the roster.

I realize it's still a giant long shot because of lots of factors. His size, Edler, Hutton, Tramkyin and Sbisa all being lefty d with more experience and fear of ruining him by putting him in the league too early to name a few Juolevi has a good head on his shoulders and skates really well and that is exactly what they want in a d man.

I hope he has a great camp and makes the decision really hard!
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 4 @ 2:33 PM ET
I totally agree, it's unlikely a 20 year old can improve over the summer and impossible for him to be more consistent. Time to move on from JV as he has likely peaked
- CanuckDon

Waive him.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 4 @ 2:34 PM ET
Not to start the season, unless he was just terrible.

I'm unsure how releasing Burrows would work, if he would want to be released or just go to Utica and continue to get paid? If you can't make the Canucks, not sure how attractive you would be to another team.

I'm a Burrows fan. but it is a business. whatever is good for the Canucks, short vs long term will be considered.

- hillbillydeluxe

I understand the logic that it may be better for JV's development in Utica but the team is chasing the playoffs and probably has a better shot if JV is playing for the Canucks. Even if his offense isn't there, he was solid defensively and is our only forward who punishes the opposition.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 4 @ 2:36 PM ET
Waive him.
- Marwood

Prudent asset management Lets unload him now just in case he hangs out with Bieber again.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 4 @ 2:39 PM ET
Prudent asset management, son Lets unload him now just in case he hangs out with Bieber again.
- CanuckDon

Fixed.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 01.09.2006

Aug 4 @ 2:41 PM ET
Brendan Gaunce really surprised me with his improved skating, he wasn't really a factor in his late season call-up due to all the supposed "injuries", but I like him as a bottom six guy.

Hopefully he can make the jump to the NHL level and be more consistent. Same can actually be said for Etem, he needs to show he can bring it every night.

- LeftCoaster


Just saying I was a little surprised to get such lack of respect from you in the last article. I was giving you the benefit of every doubt and you turn around and call me stupid.

I am not going to drag this on but Sheesh man, this place is for sharing thoughts, not to be lectured to by self-described educators. Maybe I am a little hurt by your lack of basic respect. If you were actually in education, you would see that my comments come from the school of Dr. Brene and the study of Vulnerability and that of Nodding and the Ethics of Care. You want to go toe to toe with me on education, bring your pedagogy to the table and we will discuss it... but you should stop calling people stupid because they disagree with you.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 4 @ 3:04 PM ET
I understand the logic that it may be better for JV's development in Utica but the team is chasing the playoffs and probably has a better shot if JV is playing for the Canucks. Even if his offense isn't there, he was solid defensively and is our only forward who punishes the opposition.
- CanuckDon




It might be just as much a numbers game- asset management that he does start in Utica, until a trade is made or an injury.

when it comes to the club making the playoffs or not, sometimes I think if the difference is a 2nd year player, it might be better for the club to not make the playoffs, get a high draft pick and more depth/better options in the system. But this is as much about predicting what JB will do as what is best for the club.

I'd like to see some playoff games, but not expecting the cup, still want to see what's best for the development of young players.
Vanoxy
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 06.26.2014

Aug 4 @ 3:05 PM ET
I understand the logic that it may be better for JV's development in Utica but the team is chasing the playoffs and probably has a better shot if JV is playing for the Canucks. Even if his offense isn't there, he was solid defensively and is our only forward who punishes the opposition.
- CanuckDon


Chasing the playoffs is fine, but the big picture should be on the long term development of guys like JV and Juolevi.

Realistically this team isn't ready to make noise in the post season. I'd rather see the kids dominating at lower levels until they have rounded out their game 100%
WhiteLie
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Aug 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
Chasing the playoffs is fine, but the big picture should be on the long term development of guys like JV and Juolevi.

Realistically this team isn't ready to make noise in the post season. I'd rather see the kids dominating at lower levels until they have rounded out their game 100%

- Vanoxy


I am curious to see how he performs at camp, but I am still torn as to what is best. He needed to learn and get better at the little things, but his corsi stats showed him on the positive end of shot differential. So if he comes into camp trying to earn a spot, I would say keep him and give him more opportunity. If he comes in like he already has a spot, you send him down.

Sven was down there and came close to "dominating" after moving to Utica and even with his 66 games of NHL experience (more than JV has) it still took him time to make any sort of impact last season. Because of that, I lean towards keeping him so he learns the NHL, but early camp performance would dictate that for me
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