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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 6 @ 8:17 PM ET
Yup. If they don't make it this year, something is wrong. I think we are going to at least make the postseason
- sbroads24



I still think the roster as of today falls just short. But Im convinced theres at least one more move to be made.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 6 @ 8:18 PM ET
Wow, these women weightlifters are incredible. They weigh less than 106lbs and are throwing up 235lbs in the clean and jerk. That's amazing.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Aug 6 @ 8:20 PM ET
I still think the roster as of today falls just short. But Im convinced theres at least one more move to be made.
- Sabresfan-365


I guess it all depends on how much you think Jack, Sam, Risto, and McCabe progress.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 6 @ 8:54 PM ET
And 39 has been saying weird things like chychrun was the pick, which I knew all along wasn't. He broke the tallinder trade I think and maybe the Kane one but has been erratic since. Btw, the trade for that Fla dman came out of nowhere - I never knew about it. Hope Fowler comes to fruition too - makes sense but I have no source on that
- turbo044

you would think if we do get Vesey that Girgensons will be moved.
SABRES 89
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Aug 6 @ 8:55 PM ET
The Yankees have a press conference for tomorrow at 8:00 with A Rod, good I hope they get rid of that scum bag once and for all.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 6 @ 9:02 PM ET
I guess it all depends on how much you think Jack, Sam, Risto, and McCabe progress.
- Wetbandit1



I think they'll progress quite a bit. My issue is still defence. Its an un popular opinion but I dont think the defence is actually better. The only move they made was swapping Pysyk for Kulikov which i honestly think is a lateral move. Kulikov is tougher but plenty of holes in his game too and if he's playing top pair minutes....yikes.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Aug 6 @ 9:03 PM ET
The Yankees have a press conference for tomorrow at 8:00 with A Rod, good I hope they get rid of that scum bag once and for all.
- SABRES 89



Probably retiring. I never had a problem with him.
SABRES 89
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Aug 6 @ 9:05 PM ET
I don't discount your source, but I really believed he was going to wait until the 15th regardless. I don't think it means anything as to where he's going to sign. He knows he's already starting out behind the 8-ball by saying no to the Preds and that he was waiting until the 15th, then the trade to Buffalo and he reiterated the fact he was going to wait, so he's smart enough to stick and be a man of his word.

I know people have differing opinions on whether that's "right" or not, but it is what it is. Rob Ray was on GR last week and said if he was going to sign here he should've done it by now, or guys in the room will be annoyed, but you know what cures that? Playing well. And 8 months from now nobody will even remember if he's playing on the 2nd line and contributing on a nightly basis.

- Wetbandit1

I agree, if he wanted to be here this would be done already and adding Eichel should make it a no brainer.
SABRES 89
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Aug 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
Probably retiring. I never had a problem with him.
- rmiethaner

He's crap taking up a roster spot, they should have let him go when he opted out a few years ago. For the most part he's been honest and had no issue with switching to 3rd base but his time has come and makes no sense to keep him.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Aug 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
I agree, if he wanted to be here this would be done already and adding Eichel should make it a no brainer.
- SABRES 89



But he can't sign anywhere until the 15th, from what I understand. Even if Buffalo has his rights and he chose Buffalo.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Aug 6 @ 9:08 PM ET
He's crap taking up a roster spot, they should have let him go when he opted out a few years ago. For the most part he's been honest and had no issue with switching to 3rd base but his time has come and makes no sense to keep him.
- SABRES 89



Yes, agreed.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 6 @ 9:22 PM ET
if the bills miss the playoffs, and sabres

fire both the gm's

I am sick of this sh!t

- homiedclown


Golf on Sundays in the fall is your best bet.
SABRES 89
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Aug 6 @ 9:26 PM ET
But he can't sign anywhere until the 15th, from what I understand. Even if Buffalo has his rights and he chose Buffalo.
- rmiethaner

I thought we were the only team he could sign with before the 15th, i could be wrong
mhp
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Aug 6 @ 9:27 PM ET
I welcome all sources. Makes the board more entertaining.
mhp
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Aug 6 @ 9:29 PM ET
I still think the roster as of today falls just short. But Im convinced theres at least one more move to be made.
- Sabresfan-365


If we get Vesey one more move and done. Fowler or a winger would be my guess.
mhp
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Aug 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
I thought we were the only team he could sign with before the 15th, i could be wrong
- SABRES 89


Yes Buffalo is the only team he could sign with before the 15th.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 9:49 PM ET
If it was all about Eichel, this would be a done deal. Eichel is a small part in this.
- SABRES 89


Didn't someone say that if he waits until the 15th though, he can actually make more in bonuses? So that would make sense. Until I heard this, I agreed with you. But this may not be true...
SABRES 89
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Aug 6 @ 9:52 PM ET
Didn't someone say that if he waits until the 15th though, he can actually make more in bonuses? So that would make sense. Until I heard this, I agreed with you. But this may not be true...
- Cup Crazy '07

That may be true as well, that I don't know.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Aug 6 @ 9:55 PM ET
That may be true as well, that I don't know.
- SABRES 89


I wish I could remember who it was. It was at that point I started to soften on my stance that if he was coming here he would have already signed.

I won't lie, I'm really looking forward to the week of the 15th. I think it may be a mini-July 1st week. A lot of teams are waiting on this decision.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Aug 6 @ 10:06 PM ET
Didn't someone say that if he waits until the 15th though, he can actually make more in bonuses? So that would make sense. Until I heard this, I agreed with you. But this may not be true...
- Cup Crazy '07


Yes is what I have been told. His incentive deal could be more (in this case it will be). Still think he will be a sabre on 16th
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 6 @ 10:12 PM ET
Yes is what I have been told. His incentive deal could be more (in this case it will be). Still think he will be a sabre on 16th
- Lilroot9


Nope ELC and bonuses are the same no matter when he signs.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 6 @ 10:21 PM ET
I'm optimistic about Ragland. If it was an ACL, they would undoubtedly know by now. It's been 24 hours
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 6 @ 10:27 PM ET
I'm optimistic about Ragland. If it was an ACL, they would undoubtedly know by now. It's been 24 hours
- sbroads24


Yeah, you don't need an MRI for a torn ligament. A simple physical test will tell you whether the ligament is working or not.

But the 2nd MRI isn't necessarily a big deal. He could've moved at just the wrong time and they didn't get a clear picture of something they wanted to look at.

MRIs are great, but they're not perfect. True story: one of the countless MRIs I've had on my knee showed a foreign body that measured 1.5cm x 4cm x 1 cm that was sitting roughly inline with my ACL. OK, the doctor wanted a thin-slice CT scan because it shows better resolution. Had my CT scan a week later and there was nothing there. Technology is great, but it has its limitations. It's not magic.

Edit: typo
SABRES 89
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Aug 6 @ 10:29 PM ET
I'm optimistic about Ragland. If it was an ACL, they would undoubtedly know by now. It's been 24 hours
- sbroads24

And the side show begins for the Bills.
Wetbandit1
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Aug 6 @ 10:42 PM ET
And the side show begins for the Bills.
- SABRES 89


That's assuming it ever ended in the first place.
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