I don't think its the wrong question at all. I think its a completely logically question. Just for a second can we talk this out without the insults? Bcus I admit I'm still confused. if I can admit that will you at least extend an olive branch?

here's the situation - Monahan (RFA) for example, doesn't have a contract signed before the start of the season - yet he still has to report to camp and potentially begin the season without a contract? BUT it has to be decided by Dec 1st, so he's playing until then and getting paid how much??? under what contract??

So with that mind - I was searching for this info and having a lot of trouble finding an answer, my thinking was - there's no way he can start playing without a contract - so I thought there must be a deadline before the start of the season....

Would you start working a job without a contract??? No? Me either. Do u understand my logic for asking now?
- Brooks_Light

You were the one that started with the name calling...

without a contract, he wouldn't be able to play a game anyways.

Allow me to assist you my good msn.



With a restricted free agent who has been qualified but has not signed, the player is ineligible for any team related evermore including but not limited to preseason, training camp etc....

If he is not signed by December 1st he cannot play for the remainder of the season or playoffs.

The team has until July 1st to sign the RFA after which time the player becomes an Ufa.

thank you sir - all I ever wanted was a straight answer

I hope that this answers your questions and concerns

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- Pres.cup

thank you sir - all I ever wanted was a straight answer

Pirri is one dimensional, he can score when he has a set up man but don't expect him to set up many goals, plus small and concussion issues. Sorry but if you want to add scoring to top six win the Vesey sweepstakes or sign Hudler. For me the verdict is still out on Baerstschi as a legit second liner and would rather see him on line three.
- joegreif17

Actually forgot about him, I guess the deadline is coming up to his UFA time... #Dominos

You didn't know the question. If you had of asked the deadline to sign to be eligible to play the season, I would have told you that it was a good question, and the answer was Dec 1st.

Instead you asked if there was a deadline to sign before the season started. Which of course there isn't. It's not my fault you asked the wrong question.

(See no emojis this time). okay maybe just one. fack. Two. three. Four.
- Scooby_Doo

Scooby you would make a pee poor gm. I have been reading your posts for a few years now and you have absolutely no clue in my opinion. If you want to mock my comments at least come back with something concrete. You want to stick with Etem, Gaunce etc for second line the first line will get chewed up and spit out. Hudler is a very nifty player and can produce goals and take the pressure off the first line. He is the only free agent left that can produce goals. Nobody likes a boring low scoring hockey team and having Eriksson and Hudler as top two line right wings improves the team big time.

Man Everybody needs to CHILL OUT.

Lay down in child's pose and take a few breaths.

Our team need positive vibes.
- manvanfan

No way, this has been the most entertaining conversation this treads has had in months. Actually worth reading.

It's like a thunder storm. You need a good storm to clear the air once in a while.

thank you sir - all I ever wanted was a straight answer
- Brooks_Light

I tried.

Men's field hockey is on. Interesting game.

I tried.

Men's field hockey is on. Interesting game.
- Scooby_Doo

Men's field hockey...

Might as well have men's ringette in the winter olympics.

No I like the date where it is because the rule gives everyone flexibility to make moves during the dispute. I think players like it because it provides the opportunity to show to the team how bad they are without them, while also giving other teams the time to evaluate and possibly trade for said player, or wait for key injuries. Teams will try to prove the opposite, and starve the player out of game action to insinuate that they are damaging their value and losing money for sitting out. A preseason deadline I think brings more risk to both sides of the party IMO
- WhiteLie

interesting take - I like the way you put it.

my thinking was - I proved to you ba$t@rds in the last three years what I could do - you got all summer to mull it over - NOW GIVE ME MA MONEY - so we can get this season going without distractions.

Scooby you would make a pee poor gm. I have been reading your posts for a few years now and you have absolutely no clue in my opinion. If you want to mock my comments at least come back with something concrete. You want to stick with Etem, Gaunce etc for second line the first line will get chewed up and spit out. Hudler is a very nifty player and can produce goals and take the pressure off the first line. He is the only free agent left that can produce goals. Nobody likes a boring low scoring hockey team and having Eriksson and Hudler as top two line right wings improves the team big time.
- joegreif17

Always great to meet one of my fans.

Hudler is not what this rebuilding team needs. He is a bandaid solution that does nothing for the development of our younger players, and only hurts our draft position. Perhaps if you looked at the bigger picture, you'd be able to see why 90% of canucks fans don't want Hudler.

Actually forgot about him, I guess the deadline is coming up to his UFA time... #Dominos
- WhiteLie

His dad told me six weeks ago that his son was signing in Chicago and it is quite likely he will not come to a Canadian team. They say 5 teams are in the hunt but the truth is there are a dozen teams ready to pounce and make their best presentation to get him. Vesey will likely take a week after the 15th to decide as he will have lots to consider. In the end the guarantee to play with Toews and Hossa will win out.

Stay away from those swim-up bars. That water is tainted.
- bloatedmosquito

that's what the blue warning dye is for isn't it

that's what the blue warning dye is for isn't it
- Codes1087

GET OUT OF THE WATER!

Always great to meet one of my fans.

Hudler is not what this rebuilding team needs. He is a bandaid solution that does nothing for the development of our younger players, and only hurts our draft position. Perhaps if you looked at the bigger picture, you'd be able to see why 90% of canucks fans don't want Hudler.
- Scooby_Doo

Nice to hear from you Scooby, appreciate the reply. Sorry for the low blow, hope we are still good. I am pretty certain Benning and Linden want to rebuild on the fly, they are saying they want to make the playoffs. If they are sincere they need to add the best and only offensive player left and that is Hudler. If he is healthy he will be a huge asset but I would not commit to him for more that two years. Honestly once Vesey signs Hudler will sign the next day somewhere and that is why I would grab him now or bore the poop out of us with a bottom six playing in the top six and holding all the offense back. As a fan I came down to a Calgary game (Feb. 06) last year, spent a grand for tickets and one night accommodation and the Canucks rewarded me with perhaps the boringest nhl game I have ever attended. It was brutal so please add some offense.

GET OUT OF THE WATER!


- bloatedmosquito

yuck

His dad told me six weeks ago that his son was signing in Chicago and it is quite likely he will not come to a Canadian team. They say 5 teams are in the hunt but the truth is there are a dozen teams ready to pounce and make their best presentation to get him. Vesey will likely take a week after the 15th to decide as he will have lots to consider. In the end the guarantee to play with Toews and Hossa will win out.
- joegreif17

I don't understand why this kid is being given the keys to the kingdom - he hasn't proven $h!t on the pro level and I think its fair to say the jump from NCAA to the NHL is not an easy one. Yet he was already promised top 6 minutes in Nashville playing with Forsberg, Neal, Johansen and walked away - the balls on this kid!!! Sure he has the right/option but earn it first you little $h!t.

let me throw a few names out there....
Drew LeBlanc
Jack Connolly
Andy Miele
Blake Geoffrion
Kevin Porter
Ryan Duncan
recognize these??? no??? didn't think so - these are older versions of Vesey - now playing in Denmark, Swiss league, Austria and the AHL - all washed up, already. Sure there's Eichel, Gaudreau but odds are not in his corner so I just don't get it.
I'm already routing for his failure.

Hi,

New blog is up, with a look at where the goals might come from for the Canucks next season:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...Goals-Come-From/194/78571

I don't understand why this kid is being given the keys to the kingdom - he hasn't proven $h!t on the pro level and I think its fair to say the jump from NCAA to the NHL is not an easy one. Yet he was already promised top 6 minutes in Nashville playing with Forsberg, Neal, Johansen and walked away - the balls on this kid!!! Sure he has the right/option but earn it first you little $h!t.

let me throw a few names out there....
Drew LeBlanc
Jack Connolly
Andy Miele
Blake Geoffrion
Kevin Porter
Ryan Duncan
recognize these??? no??? didn't think so - these are older versions of Vesey - now playing in Denmark, Swiss league, Austria and the AHL - all washed up, already. Sure there's Eichel, Gaudreau but odds are not in his corner so I just don't get it.
I'm already routing for his failure.
- Brooks_Light

I agree with you it is like he is Wayne Gretzky and he has not played a game. Blake Wheeler all over again, Paul Kariya was a HB winner too. I have watched many of his you tube videos and he is impressive. Size, speed, skill, hockey sense and a wicked release all add up to something special but we will see.

I don't understand why this kid is being given the keys to the kingdom - he hasn't proven $h!t on the pro level and I think its fair to say the jump from NCAA to the NHL is not an easy one. Yet he was already promised top 6 minutes in Nashville playing with Forsberg, Neal, Johansen and walked away - the balls on this kid!!! Sure he has the right/option but earn it first you little $h!t.

let me throw a few names out there....
Drew LeBlanc
Jack Connolly
Andy Miele
Blake Geoffrion
Kevin Porter
Ryan Duncan
recognize these??? no??? didn't think so - these are older versions of Vesey - now playing in Denmark, Swiss league, Austria and the AHL - all washed up, already. Sure there's Eichel, Gaudreau but odds are not in his corner so I just don't get it.
I'm already routing for his failure.
- Brooks_Light

FYI I recognize all those names, how could I not after 38 years of building through the amateur draft and college free agents etc.

I don't understand why this kid is being given the keys to the kingdom - he hasn't proven $h!t on the pro level and I think its fair to say the jump from NCAA to the NHL is not an easy one. Yet he was already promised top 6 minutes in Nashville playing with Forsberg, Neal, Johansen and walked away - the balls on this kid!!! Sure he has the right/option but earn it first you little $h!t.

let me throw a few names out there....
Drew LeBlanc
Jack Connolly
Andy Miele
Blake Geoffrion
Kevin Porter
Ryan Duncan
recognize these??? no??? didn't think so - these are older versions of Vesey - now playing in Denmark, Swiss league, Austria and the AHL - all washed up, already. Sure there's Eichel, Gaudreau but odds are not in his corner so I just don't get it.
I'm already routing for his failure.
- Brooks_Light

I'm not sure the point of your listed players and then mention Eichel and Gaudreau. Are you implying that NCAA isnt good? There are a long list of successful NHLers that played college and its only getting better

Vesey is a big story because he turned on his drafting team Nashville, like Schultz did to Anahiem, and has turned into a legit prospect. Guys like Geoffrion signed with his drafting team (oddly enough Nashville), or Miele was an undrafted free agent like Stecher was this offseason, so I dont understand the relationship of the list to the situation

I'm not sure the point of your listed players and then mention Eichel and Gaudreau. Are you implying that NCAA isnt good? There are a long list of successful NHLers that played college and its only getting better

Vesey is a big story because he turned on his drafting team Nashville, like Schultz did to Anahiem, and has turned into a legit prospect. Guys like Geoffrion signed with his drafting team (oddly enough Nashville), or Miele was an undrafted free agent like Stecher was this offseason, so I dont understand the relationship of the list to the situation
- WhiteLie

The list are Hobey baker winners that basically amounted to nothing - all hype, no action. Eichel, Gaudreau being the exceptions. (the list goes back to 2007 so it shows its not just a small sample size) - simply showing the odds of becoming an NHLer, yet alone an effective one are quite low via the NCAA route - hence me saying everyone should maybe relax over this Vesey Kid. AND You're right bcus he turned down Nashville - its become a bigger story than it should be.

Always great to meet one of my fans.

Hudler is not what this rebuilding team needs. He is a bandaid solution that does nothing for the development of our younger players, and only hurts our draft position. Perhaps if you looked at the bigger picture, you'd be able to see why 90% of canucks fans don't want Hudler.
- Scooby_Doo

Salient points... I recall Hudler scored a number of big goals against us in the playoffs, had 8 points in 11 games with 4 goals in 14/15. Everyone always talks about how soft he is... he's a .5 ppg player in the playoff career wise, and being fostered by the Detroit system isn't a bad thing. I don't think he fits the mould long term, but I don't hate the signing if it uses our remaining cap space.

Tuff guy Tuesday must be a real thing. Why is everyone so grouchy?

On a happier note, I will be getting married in less than 2 weeks and will be basking in the beautiful waters of Maui in exactly 2 weeks time.

Hopefully you can aim some of your anger out on this post and away from all the other dramatic posts going on
- Codes1087

I'm trying to keep the intelligent level up here. I'm sick of the stupid trade proposals, lineup projections, and plain old stupid hockey talk. Our fan base is full of morons, I'm just trying to promote responsible intelligent discussions. If you can't handle it, go post on tsn.ca.
- Scooby_Doo

Self centred & arrogant much?

I don't understand why this kid is being given the keys to the kingdom - he hasn't proven $h!t on the pro level and I think its fair to say the jump from NCAA to the NHL is not an easy one. Yet he was already promised top 6 minutes in Nashville playing with Forsberg, Neal, Johansen and walked away - the balls on this kid!!! Sure he has the right/option but earn it first you little $h!t.

let me throw a few names out there....
Drew LeBlanc
Jack Connolly
Andy Miele
Blake Geoffrion
Kevin Porter
Ryan Duncan
recognize these??? no??? didn't think so - these are older versions of Vesey - now playing in Denmark, Swiss league, Austria and the AHL - all washed up, already. Sure there's Eichel, Gaudreau but odds are not in his corner so I just don't get it.
I'm already routing for his failure.
- Brooks_Light

I do.

Duncan chose school over his legit shot at the NHL. Burke offered him a minor league contract after he won the Hobey but he did not strike while the iron was hot and missed out and turned it down to finish school. He had everything to be there but size and unlike Gudraeu just missed it by a few seasons. The NHL is more receptive to smaller players now.

Duncan Played with Toews in ND and outscored him plus Duncan played with Crosby at Shattucks and did very well.

Toews lobbied for a tryout for Duncan with CHI and Crosby lobbied for a tryout for Duncan with PIT. Duncan had summer rookie tryouts with PIT and STL but no contract offer at that point as he still was focusing on school.

ARZ had Duncan on their AHL affiliate but no call up even though he was a good scorer in the AHL. Basically he just chose school over his legit shot with Burke and after that was passed on by 2-3 GMs. Sometimes you have to take that AHL contract and pass on school for a few seasons to get there…he chose Austria and team Red Bull where he is doing extremely well and making good cash.

Such is life.