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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:58 PM ET
I am sure the last thing on Vessy's mind right now or even the first time he is playing in Nashville is how "Suter type booed" he is going get. He looking to cash in on a once in a life time opportunity. No one can fault him for that.

- Nfdbulldawg

Hes signing an elc no matter where he goes. hes hardly cashing in unless he lives up to the hype and actually is worth a next big contract.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Aug 14 @ 5:10 PM ET
Think he stays in Boston
seabass21
Boston Bruins
Location: Life is nasty, brutish and short. T.Hobbes, BC
Joined: 10.22.2010

Aug 14 @ 5:13 PM ET
Novus orto Seclorum
Order out of Chaos
NWO illuminati secret shadow government running America and extension world through UN, CFR, Trilateral commision, bilderberg, bohemien grove and so on to usher in an eventual luciferian world government in plain sight. Hopefully Trump takes a wrecking ball to this system that JFK tried to expose before this UN anti liberty, pro enslavement of serfdom agenda becomes erriversable. Your polls are rigged. Your media is pure nazi style propaganda that many weak minded succumb to its suggestions without proper verification. The agenda and bias is clear. Trump should win in popular land slide but they'll try to steal it and give illusion of close race. They have to much to lose in there master plan by allowing the serfs to elect there champion of American first interests.
Hope Sabres sign Vessy. Then Kane can come home and finally become a man not a punk child under proper leadership guidance and rock bottom self motivation. Also sports is a distraction from reality and promotes the tribalism, hockey is a good distaction as long as it doesn't rule ones life.

- morrison1980


Lol. I have your reading list.
Don't think Boston is a good fit for what he wants. Buffalo or TO seem like a fit as they are both young teams. As far as chi town, who wouldn't want to play for a team like that.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 14 @ 5:14 PM ET
Watch... He doesn't wind up playing for BOS, BUF, CHI or NJ.
seabass21
Boston Bruins
Location: Life is nasty, brutish and short. T.Hobbes, BC
Joined: 10.22.2010

Aug 14 @ 5:14 PM ET
Hes signing an elc no matter where he goes. hes hardly cashing in unless he lives up to the hype and actually is worth a next big contract.
- Iggysbff


Agreed, gonna get the same contract from any team. It's more about where he fits into the line up and ice time.
seabass21
Boston Bruins
Location: Life is nasty, brutish and short. T.Hobbes, BC
Joined: 10.22.2010

Aug 14 @ 5:18 PM ET
Watch... He doesn't wind up playing for BOS, BUF, CHI or NJ.
- Rinosaur


Soon, Pitts?
Osprey
Joined: 11.10.2015

Aug 14 @ 5:22 PM ET
Vesey "doesn't want to make enemies"? He already has a few tens of thousands who'll treat him like one whenever he steps on Nashville ice. That may not have been his intent, but it just proves that being book smart isn't everything. There are plenty of good NCAA players who are just as smart as Vesey who don't "gather information" and "think" about which team to sign with. They simply sign with the team that drafted them and gave resources and advice to them for years because, you know, it feels like the right thing to do. They're not less smart than him because they didn't weigh all 30 options.

I'm personally not that bitter at him, but it does annoy me to see pieces like this that suggest what a good, loyal, thoughtful and very smart kid he is. He's not necessarily a bad kid, but he shouldn't be lavished with praise for getting to and handling this situation... not unless you want your own team's college prospects to follow the same route to free agency to prove that they're just as "smart" as Vesey.
mikeq672
Boston Bruins
Location: Auburn, MA
Joined: 06.29.2013

Aug 14 @ 5:23 PM ET
Love all the hate for a kid that is smarter than anyone here and something that is completely within his rights to do. I dont see anyone getting mad and yelling about players being bought out because teams dont want to stick with their end of the contract.
seabass21
Boston Bruins
Location: Life is nasty, brutish and short. T.Hobbes, BC
Joined: 10.22.2010

Aug 14 @ 5:26 PM ET
No hate here...
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Aug 14 @ 5:43 PM ET
* Talking to a Ukrainian fortune teller lady named "Monique" on the Ocean City Boardwalk last night

Is this a joke?

tfriede2
Joined: 07.31.2011

Aug 14 @ 5:52 PM ET
Its not Vesey eve, he cant sign until 12:01 on Tuesday, Buffalo has his rights through the 15th.

How do we take your educated guess seriously when its obviously very uneducated?

- mikeq672


You are all looking at the wrong CBA. Vesey was drafted in 2012, and because the current CBA came into effect in 2013, that means Vesey falls under the previous CBA. I don't have a copy of the previous CBA, but I'm assuming Vesey is a UFA on the 15th and not the 16th under that version.

Edit - the 2005 CBA has the same language. Vesey is a UFA on the 16th, not the 15th.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 14 @ 5:54 PM ET
Eklund: Happy Vesey Eve.. My Educated Guess/Inconclusive Conclusion....
- Eklund

I know a lot of stupid Harvard grads so lets stop with the everyone is a genius who makes it through Harvard mind set. This is all his agent who up until this point has done the right thing.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 14 @ 5:57 PM ET
NY Islanders...He becomes JT's long lost winger. Plus they have room to do his second contract.
- Nfdbulldawg

No thanks I want nothing to do with another coin flip. Let the Sabres and Rangers fight over this kid who will probably land square on his face by novemeber.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 14 @ 5:58 PM ET
He's told his closest friends that he's signing with the Bruins. It's a done deal.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 14 @ 5:59 PM ET
No thanks I want nothing to do with another coin flip. Let the Sabres and Rangers fight over this kid who will probably land square on his face by novemeber.
- Cptmjl


You've obviously never seen him play.
Osprey
Joined: 11.10.2015

Aug 14 @ 6:47 PM ET
Love all the hate for a kid that is smarter than anyone here and something that is completely within his rights to do.
- mikeq672


You're welcome to speak for yourself, but don't speak for others. Also, fathers are completely within their rights to walk out on their families, but it doesn't make it the "right" thing to do.

I dont see anyone getting mad and yelling about players being bought out because teams dont want to stick with their end of the contract.
- mikq672


At least players get fairly well compensated (66% of their contract value) when bought out. How has Nashville been compensated for losing Vesey?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Aug 14 @ 6:53 PM ET
You're welcome to speak for yourself, but don't speak for others. Also, fathers are completely within their rights to walk out on their families, but it doesn't make it the "right" thing to do.



At least players get fairly well compensated (66% of their contract value) when bought out. How has Nashville been compensated for losing Vesey?

- Osprey

Dont they get a pick as compensation? Same pick in the second round that he was in the first or something like that?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 14 @ 7:15 PM ET
He's told his closest friends that he's signing with the Bruins. It's a done deal.
- Bruiniak



This guy.
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Aug 14 @ 7:36 PM ET
chances of signing:
Boston better than 50% and Leafs maybe 25% due to dad. Sabres in 3rd.
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Aug 14 @ 7:58 PM ET
I am sure the last thing on Vessy's mind right now or even the first time he is playing in Nashville is how "Suter type booed" he is going get. He looking to cash in on a once in a life time opportunity. No one can fault him for that.

- Nfdbulldawg


I can, he was drafted by a good team a playoff team. Shut up and act greatful.....i hope he sucks
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Aug 14 @ 7:59 PM ET
No thanks I want nothing to do with another coin flip. Let the Sabres and Rangers fight over this kid who will probably land square on his face by novemeber.
- Cptmjl


Agreed
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 14 @ 8:09 PM ET
Soon, Pitts?
- seabass21


No, no room for him there despite what other Pens fans would say.
blueline
Nashville Predators
Location: Old Hickory, TN
Joined: 07.22.2007

Aug 14 @ 8:41 PM ET
Dont they get a pick as compensation? Same pick in the second round that he was in the first or something like that?
- muffin_man

No.
mikeq672
Boston Bruins
Location: Auburn, MA
Joined: 06.29.2013

Aug 14 @ 9:00 PM ET
You're welcome to speak for yourself, but don't speak for others. Also, fathers are completely within their rights to walk out on their families, but it doesn't make it the "right" thing to do.



At least players get fairly well compensated (66% of their contract value) when bought out. How has Nashville been compensated for losing Vesey?

- Osprey


That implication in the first sentence is completely contradicted by what you say in the second. Did you really just make that comparison?

Ive yet to hear a good reason why the 22 year old kid should forfeit his rights to choose where to go. I dont understand why people would rather side with the billionaire teamowners over this kid that wants to make the best decision for him and his family.

Im sure if you were in a similar position you would just go somewhere you didnt want to for work and uproot your family instead of just waiting a few months and picking where you wanna go.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 14 @ 9:11 PM ET
That implication in the first sentence is completely contradicted by what you say in the second. Did you really just make that comparison?

Ive yet to hear a good reason why the 22 year old kid should forfeit his rights to choose where to go. I dont understand why people would rather side with the billionaire teamowners over this kid that wants to make the best decision for him and his family.

Im sure if you were in a similar position you would just go somewhere you didnt want to for work and uproot your family instead of just waiting a few months and picking where you wanna go.

- mikeq672


The problem is, it's a loophole that college free agents like Vesey, like Justin Schultz before him are exploiting due to the fact that the NCAA allows players to be drafted and still be eligible to play college hockey if they don't turn pro. Drafting players intending to go to college is always a crapshoot due to the fact that there's always the chance they'll finish their degrees and then go to free agency, leaving the team that drafted them holding the bag.

It's mostly the NCAA that's at fault here, as hockey is the only sport where the NCAA allows kids to be drafted yet still be considered amateur athletes as long as they don't go to the NHL training camps or do any team activities on the team's dime. No other sport like football or basketball allows this as if those players in those sports want to be drafted, they have to declare that they're turning pro and making themselves ineligible for college.
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