Yup, unlike Rinaldo, Gudas doesn't take himself way out of position to make a big hit, nor does he constantly take bad penalties for no reason whatsoever.


- BiggE

Also, unlike Rinaldo, he actually learned to improve his game.

Also, unlike Rinaldo, he actually learned to improve his game.
- Scoob

Also, unlike Rinaldo, he actually learned to improve his game.
- Scoob

Love Gudas

I think scared is a bad description. However, what Dmen like Gudas often cause is a forward will rush his play just a bit and perhaps the shot goes wide or the pass is just a bit off. Forwards are aware of guys like Gudas when they are on the ice and they don't want to get crushed by those type of Dmen while in the middle of making a play.

When it comes to "old school" intimidation, you are 100% correct, in the past the Flyers have had MUCH scarier guys than Gudas. However in today's game, intimidation mainly comes from the guys that throw hard punishing hits and Gudas hits as hard as pretty much anyone.
- BiggE

First and foremost, can a guy be an effective player? Intimidation should be secondary. Rinaldo is a guy that players have to be wary of on the ice, but would a good team dress him? Gudas actually played well, it's a benefit that he provides a needed physical element.

Who terrifies opposing players on Chicago's roster? Or LA's? Or Tampa Bay's? Or Pittsburgh?

First and foremost, can a guy be an effective player? Intimidation should be secondary. Rinaldo is a guy that players have to be wary of on the ice, but would a good team dress him? Gudas actually played well, it's a benefit that he provides a needed physical element.

Who terrifies opposing players on Chicago's roster? Or LA's? Or Tampa Bay's? Or Pittsburgh?
- Jsaquella

Kane. Serial rapist

Kane. Serial rapist
- PhillySportsGuy

Hey Now!

First and foremost, can a guy be an effective player? Intimidation should be secondary. Rinaldo is a guy that players have to be wary of on the ice, but would a good team dress him? Gudas actually played well, it's a benefit that he provides a needed physical element.

Who terrifies opposing players on Chicago's roster? Or LA's? Or Tampa Bay's? Or Pittsburgh?
- Jsaquella

I'd say Lucic was a guy that you want to give space to on LA. On TB, Brian Boyle is a monster as long as you're under 6'2, then he's terrified of you.

But yes, you don't need a scary/intimidating guy if you have enough skill.

Hey Now!
- Jsaquella

Jeffrey Tambor is very under appreciated

Love Gudas
- PhillySportsGuy

The most important aspect of any team is how intimidating you look getting off the bus. Everything else will work itself out

First and foremost, can a guy be an effective player? Intimidation should be secondary. Rinaldo is a guy that players have to be wary of on the ice, but would a good team dress him? Gudas actually played well, it's a benefit that he provides a needed physical element.

Who terrifies opposing players on Chicago's roster? Or LA's? Or Tampa Bay's? Or Pittsburgh?
- Jsaquella

Again, I think scared/terrified is a misnomer. And, yes, I agree, you don't need a punishing hitter on your blueline to be successful. However, guys like Gudas can make forwards rush their plays now and then, and that's not a bad thing.

- GudasNew

First and foremost, can a guy be an effective player? Intimidation should be secondary. Rinaldo is a guy that players have to be wary of on the ice, but would a good team dress him? Gudas actually played well, it's a benefit that he provides a needed physical element.

Who terrifies opposing players on Chicago's roster? Or LA's? Or Tampa Bay's? Or Pittsburgh?
- Jsaquella

Duncan Keith and Tootoo for CHI - Somewhat.
Can't find even a possible on LA, Tampa, Pitts

Again, I think scared/terrified is a misnomer. And, yes, I agree, you don't need a punishing hitter on your blueline to be successful. However, guys like Gudas can make forwards rush their plays now and then, and that's not a bad thing.
- BiggE

Pronger and Stevens were great at that. Step towards the guy coming into the zone and they'd make an errant pass.

Duncan Keith and Tootoo for CHI - Somewhat.
Can't find even a possible on LA, Tampa, Pitts
- dragonoffrost

But, really, how good are those teams?

- PhillySportsGuy

Duncan Keith and Tootoo for CHI - Somewhat.
Can't find even a possible on LA, Tampa, Pitts
- dragonoffrost

LA has Dustin Brown

Pronger and Stevens were great at that. Step towards the guy coming into the zone and they'd make an errant pass.
- dragonoffrost

Exactly. Derian Hatcher often had the same effect as well, especially in the corners. Guys just didn't want to tangle with him.

Exactly. Derian Hatcher often had the same effect as well, especially in the corners. Guys just didn't want to tangle with him.
- BiggE

YEAH, BUT CAN HE FIGHT?

Exactly. Derian Hatcher often had the same effect as well, especially in the corners. Guys just didn't want to tangle with him.
- BiggE

Ask Crosby about that

Exactly. Derian Hatcher often had the same effect as well, especially in the corners. Guys just didn't want to tangle with him.
- BiggE

That's the thing. Guys like Pronger, Stevens and Hatcher ate a lot of ice time and masters at their crafts. Not to mention, bigger than everyone else.

That's the thing. Guys like Pronger, Stevens and Hatcher ate a lot of ice time and masters at their crafts. Not to mention, bigger than everyone else.
- roenick97

Funny thing is Stevens wasn't bigger. He was listed at 6' and 200lbs which is pretty average even during his career. It was the threat of the elbow being lifted or the launching into you with a shoulder during the hit that made people think.

The other two. Yeah they were beasts.

That's the thing. Guys like Pronger, Stevens and Hatcher ate a lot of ice time and masters at their crafts. Not to mention, bigger than everyone else.
- roenick97

Yes, but they were also extremely skilled hockey players, 2 of whom are in the HHOF. There's a big difference between guys like them and a guy like Eric Cairns and Bryan Marchment.

Yes, but they were also extremely skilled hockey players, 2 of whom are in the HHOF. There's a big difference between guys like them and a guy like Eric Cairns and Bryan Marchment.
- jmatchett383

Cairns to me wasn't anything. Marchment on the other hand is a straight up Richard!