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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
They usually give the award to seniors.

& people confuse the hobey baker as being the best player in the NCAA which isn't the case.

He's an average prospect at best

- classic321


What does the fox say about the grapes that are out of his reach? They are sour! Well Benning's Bimbo management team is certainly not getting Vesey - so bonehead Nucks fans claim he's average. Ryan Miller, Paul Kariya and Neal Broten were also Baker winners - weren't bad NHLers. Of course Vancouver only got the twilight years from Miller. Very few talented US College players like Patrick Kane, Mike Modano - stay in the US - because of the better competition offered in Canadian Minor Hockey. Vesey may be an exception, not sure - we'll see.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
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Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
And so, if Halladay makes it into the hall of fame – it says here that he should – he knows which cap will be on his plaque.

I’d go as a Blue Jay,” he said. “I wanted to retire here, too, just because I felt like, this is the bulk of my career. I would have given my left arm to have the team we have now.”


- 1979AD

Doc is a quality guy
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
Werd.
- 1979AD


scentence.
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
Doc is a quality guy
- AdamFrench

No, you are
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 15 @ 5:19 PM ET
No, you are
- AustonPowers

Thanks PK. You mean a lot to me.
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 15 @ 5:20 PM ET
NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 15 @ 5:20 PM ET
Thanks PK. You mean a lot to me.
- AdamFrench

You would backstab me at the first chance you get
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
scentence.
- underhill14


smells good.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 15 @ 5:22 PM ET
Keep JVR this season.
- systemtool


Agree
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 15 @ 5:23 PM ET
Doc is a quality guy
- AdamFrench


You too are a quality guy.... although I noticed you left Malcolm S. out of the 'best goalies under 23' list.... whatupwiththat?
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 15 @ 5:24 PM ET
You too are a quality guy.... although I noticed you left Malcolm S. out of the 'best goalies under 23' list.... whatupwiththat?
- 1979AD

He's a goddamned (frank)in racist
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 15 @ 5:24 PM ET
You would backstab me at the first chance you get
- AustonPowers


Like he did your brother. You'd be best served not trusting him. Too much time spent behind the iron curtain.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
Toronto has worked hard to change its culture to one of accountability and earning your ice-time. For the Leafs to promise this kid anything in their pitch would ruin all that.

If Vesey is asking for ice-time and to crack the NHL roster without any merit, he should (frank) off and the Leafs should be focusing their time and effort and money elsewhere.

My 2 cents.

- AustonPowers

Yes
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 15 @ 5:27 PM ET
JVR, Kadri, Marner---------------two vets, one rookie. Kadri the grinder, JVR net front and Marner playmaking for both.

Vesey, Bozak, Brown------------one vet, two older rookies, this line is technically the 3rd but don't tell Vesey.

Martin, Matthews, Nylander-----the Babcock special.

Lupul, Laich, Komarov-----------consider this the TDD special OR the waiting area for Robidas Island Tours. Flip Martin and Komarov as needed. When we play a team with a dirty wiener....Martin. When we don't Komarov.

Only thing that makes sense so far.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 15 @ 5:27 PM ET
smells good.
- 1979AD


AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 15 @ 5:29 PM ET
Like he did your brother. You'd be best served not trusting him. Too much time spent behind the iron curtain.
- 1979AD

Exactly. He used to spend his spare time blogging. Now? We have no idea. Something is up.
waitforawhistle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: manteno, IL
Joined: 12.28.2009

Aug 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
Conspiracy theory....He signs with Nashville and he helps his team by getting a 3rd round pick from Buffalo.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Aug 15 @ 5:39 PM ET
What does the fox say about the grapes that are out of his reach? They are sour! Well Benning's Bimbo management team is certainly not getting Vesey - so bonehead Nucks fans claim he's average. Ryan Miller, Paul Kariya and Neal Broten were also Baker winners - weren't bad NHLers. Of course Vancouver only got the twilight years from Miller. Very few talented US College players like Patrick Kane, Mike Modano - stay in the US - because of the better competition offered in Canadian Minor Hockey. Vesey may be an exception, not sure - we'll see.
- winsix

Zach Hyman senior year
2014-15 U. of Michigan Big-10 37 22 32 54 10 24

Jimmy Vesey senior year
2015-16 Harvard University ECAC 33 24 22 46 6 11

I don't expect either to be a sure shot top 6. Maybe a 3rd liner who can play up in the lineup if someone gets hurt.
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Aug 15 @ 5:46 PM ET
Conspiracy theory....He signs with Nashville and he helps his team by getting a 3rd round pick from Buffalo.
- waitforawhistle


imagine that... "Yeah, I tested the free agency waters for a day and decided Nashville is home for me. (frank) you Buffalo, thanks for the third!"
southpaww82
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 04.09.2014

Aug 15 @ 5:56 PM ET
JVR, Kadri, Marner---------------two vets, one rookie. Kadri the grinder, JVR net front and Marner playmaking for both.

Vesey, Bozak, Brown------------one vet, two older rookies, this line is technically the 3rd but don't tell Vesey.

Martin, Matthews, Nylander-----the Babcock special.

Lupul, Laich, Komarov-----------consider this the TDD special OR the waiting area for Robidas Island Tours. Flip Martin and Komarov as needed. When we play a team with a dirty wiener....Martin. When we don't Komarov.

Only thing that makes sense so far.

- underhill14


i do like but what about Hyman, Soshkinov, Greening , Mickalek realistically?
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
Zach Hyman senior year
2014-15 U. of Michigan Big-10 37 22 32 54 10 24

Jimmy Vesey senior year
2015-16 Harvard University ECAC 33 24 22 46 6 11

I don't expect either to be a sure shot top 6. Maybe a 3rd liner who can play up in the lineup if someone gets hurt.

- HealthyScratch6


What little I saw of Hyman - thought he was decent. You are probably right that on a good team - neither is in the top six. That said - getting an asset that is perceived as a middle first round caliber talent for only money - is worth a gamble - otherwise no team would be interested. If the Leafs land him surely he will be better than Biggs.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 15 @ 6:06 PM ET
I know you said you weren't bitter on Stamkos, but it certainly read that way. Haha.

He's a high-character guy. I give him a lot of credit for wanting to stay with the organization he came up with and helped put on the map.

Have to respect a guy that doesn't want to sign somewhere simply for money (don't get me wrong, he got big bucks from Tampa, but could have gotten more in TOR), or to become the face for a product and have his image stamped throughout the country in various advertisements.

Kind of refreshing to know there's still some guys out there who don't want the lime light and to be under the microscope.

I've heard he's a private guy and is happy he can go to a lot of places in Tampa and not be recognized. He'd be mobbed in Toronto, I bet.

- Hank3Henshaw


Nick Spaling gets mobbed in Toronto
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 15 @ 6:09 PM ET

- markmark



steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 15 @ 6:10 PM ET
Anyone else assume teams are waiting for Vesey decision before maybe making some other roster moves? Especially the Leafs... something's gotta give!
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 15 @ 6:16 PM ET
What little I saw of Hyman - thought he was decent. You are probably right that on a good team - neither is in the top six. That said - getting an asset that is perceived as a middle first round caliber talent for only money - is worth a gamble - otherwise no team would be interested. If the Leafs land him surely he will be better than Biggs.
- winsix

HAHAHA
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