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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
If they have Fleury they don't have cap room for ELC with max bonus structure.
- SomeoneGerman



Pretty sure the bonuses don't affect the Cap until next year
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
Too young for my blood!


- dragonoffrost

I realize it was a different time, different cultural norms, etc., but I'm still flabbergasted that somebody came up with an idea for a sitcom that takes place in a German P.O.W. camp, and that said person was allowed to pitch it to a Hollywood studio.

S.S., Gestapo, torture - really, really funny stuff, no?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
I realize it was a different time, different cultural norms, etc., but I'm still flabbergasted that somebody came up with an idea for a sitcom that takes place in a German P.O.W. camp, and that said person was allowed to pitch it to a Hollywood studio.

S.S., Gestapo, torture - really, really funny stuff, no?

- Atomic Wedgie




Us Americans are pretty Fd up
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
I realize it was a different time, different cultural norms, etc., but I'm still flabbergasted that somebody came up with an idea for a sitcom that takes place in a German P.O.W. camp, and that said person was allowed to pitch it to a Hollywood studio.

S.S., Gestapo, torture - really, really funny stuff, no?

- Atomic Wedgie


Same thing with M.A.S.H. . Make the best of a terrible situation.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 16 @ 2:31 PM ET
He can play w good players anywhere that's recruiting him
What do u have that sways him over his hometown, the Cup champs, or playing on another up & coming team with his good bud?

I just don't see any reason that Philly stands out above the rest

- jdfitz77


Hextall has to be the salesman and make him believe Philly can win cups even if Buffalo has him and Eichel. Vesey has 2 years to prove he's worth big bucks wherever he goes. His choice is who sells him best on they can make him into the player worth the big contracts and win cups with him.

We will find out which GM is the best used car salesman with where he signs.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Aug 16 @ 2:32 PM ET
Pretty sure the bonuses don't affect the Cap until next year
- jdfitz77

I don't know if ELC bonuses ever count against the cap
annoyance__101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a
Joined: 04.25.2011

Aug 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
I realize it was a different time, different cultural norms, etc., but I'm still flabbergasted that somebody came up with an idea for a sitcom that takes place in a German P.O.W. camp, and that said person was allowed to pitch it to a Hollywood studio.

S.S., Gestapo, torture - really, really funny stuff, no?

- Atomic Wedgie


Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
Same thing with M.A.S.H. . Make the best of a terrible situation.
- cabin



MASH was really just a way to do get an anti-war series on the air during Vietnam.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
Same thing with M.A.S.H. . Make the best of a terrible situation.
- cabin


Watch most Mel Brooks movies also.

Different time indeed.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 16 @ 2:35 PM ET
MASH was really just a way to do get an anti-war series on the air during Vietnam.
- Canada Cup


I love Mash, was before my time but I love that show
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 16 @ 2:36 PM ET
MASH was really just a way to do get an anti-war series on the air during Vietnam.
- Canada Cup


I trust your analysis.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 16 @ 2:36 PM ET
I don't know if ELC bonuses ever count against the cap
- chilliard77



They have to eventually
Why wouldn't they?

I just don't think they can right away

For example,
Say there's a .5mil bonus for 60 games played
Obviously can't count against that years Cap
Might get hurt in Camp & miss the whole season

I'm almost positive that ANY performance bonuses actually get applied to the following year
Regardless if it's ELC, vet contract, whatever
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Aug 16 @ 2:36 PM ET
I realize it was a different time, different cultural norms, etc., but I'm still flabbergasted that somebody came up with an idea for a sitcom that takes place in a German P.O.W. camp, and that said person was allowed to pitch it to a Hollywood studio.

S.S., Gestapo, torture - really, really funny stuff, no?

- Atomic Wedgie


I grew up on Hogan's Heroes. One of the best shows ever.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Aug 16 @ 2:37 PM ET
All this German talk, I was just off recording a cover of this song
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 16 @ 2:37 PM ET
Billzzzzzzzzz
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 16 @ 2:38 PM ET
Sorry to rain on the parade, Dareus going to potentially be suspended 4 games for substance abuse.

I'll tell ya, pay me 100k to watch these guys and tell them not to do drugs. Save them a lot of trouble
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 16 @ 2:38 PM ET
The Devils offer immediate top 6 minutes for a team on the rise. That's how they appeal to him. I thought that was common sense.
- jjtoepfer


chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Aug 16 @ 2:39 PM ET
They have to eventually
Why wouldn't they?

I just don't think they can right away

For example,
Say there's a .5mil bonus for 60 games played
Obviously can't count against that years Cap
Might get hurt in Camp & miss the whole season

I'm almost positive that ANY performance bonuses actually get applied to the following year
Regardless if it's ELC, vet contract, whatever

- jdfitz77

I know that's how they work with normal contracts, but the cap sites don't show bonuses for the ELCs, the cap hits don't change. I could be wrong
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 16 @ 2:39 PM ET

- TheSabresTaco


I like the cut of your jib.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 16 @ 2:39 PM ET
All that winning that Buffalo has done (in all their sports) over the years makes it really appealing.....literally just a history of a losing. That's where I'd want to go to start my NHL career, a black hole.

Also, willing to bet Henrique has more goals and points that ROR this upcoming season.

- bballboy514


SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 16 @ 2:40 PM ET

- TheSabresTaco


This is swell.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 16 @ 2:41 PM ET
I like the cut of your jib.
- SomeoneGerman


When Devils fans try to one up what the Sabres are doing these days, it's funny, a little confusing, and a little sad.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 16 @ 2:42 PM ET
Billzzzzzzzzz
- sbroads24

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 16 @ 2:43 PM ET
I grew up on Hogan's Heroes. One of the best shows ever.
- SabreWest

Some of Richard Dawson's finest work, to be sure.

I still haven't seen Auto Focus, but I hear it's actually really good.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 16 @ 2:44 PM ET
Hextall has to be the salesman and make him believe Philly can win cups even if Buffalo has him and Eichel. Vesey has 2 years to prove he's worth big bucks wherever he goes. His choice is who sells him best on they can make him into the player worth the big contracts and win cups with him.

We will find out which GM is the best used car salesman with where he signs.

- dragonoffrost



If his #1 determining factor has to do with Cups...
Pitt & Chicago are pretty far ahead of everyone else

If it's play at home...
It's obviously Boston

If it's an up & coming team...
I'd say Eichel gives us the advantage over NJ, and being a year or 2 ahead of the Leafs gives us the advantage there

If it's a playoff team...
then maybe it's Philly over NYR & NYI
But why not just pick Pitt?

Not saying it's not possible
But it really doesn't seem likely
Like I asked,
What's special about the Philly situation that would make them "stand out" above all the other teams recruiting him?
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