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seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:17 PM ET
He is not only an All-Star.... But the MVP Of the All-Star game!!
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


a 3rd line of Scott/Girgensons and your pick of Leino, CoHo or Conachar on RW.
But not Ott, as he's a center.
….Plan the parade.
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:17 PM ET
I still haven't even seen Windows 10...
- stashu



I have it on my rig at and i like it enough

my company is running 7 but that isn't the source of our problems. lol i hate being contracted by the state, and NYS at that
sven233
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Middleport, NY
Joined: 10.02.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
So all we could say is that, where did he get money to do that? He has no money from NHL yet (and no contract showing salary to get approved from banks), so this is weird. Also, would think he should be focused on picking NHL team before buying a condo, but what do I know.
- Lilroot9


First thing I thought. Considering the prices in NYC, it wouldn't surprise me if something like this is $2M plus. Not sure where his money is coming from to make that kind of investment, especially considering his NHL contract will be limited at first. But again.......who knows.
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
On Vesey per an EK source

"There are many better and younger players out there already. Look at Winnipeg and Chicago alone...On Winnipeg you have: Roslovic, Connor, Lemieux DeLeo and Petan....And that's not including Ehlers, Laine and Dano...All better than Vesey That's 8 forwards, all younger and better...All of those guys could get 53 points or more as 22-23 yr old in the ECAC. And Joel Armia is the same age....and on Chicago...there are Hinostroza, Schmaltz, Motte and Hartman. All better with none of the hype."


We may have made a terrible mistake.
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 17 @ 1:19 PM ET
First thing I thought. Considering the prices in NYC, it wouldn't surprise me if something like this is $2M plus. Not sure where his money is coming from to make that kind of investment, especially considering his NHL contract will be limited at first. But again.......who knows.
- sven233


It would be a good investment and he could probably borrow against his first contract by now.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Aug 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
On Vesey per an EK source

"There are many better and younger players out there already. Look at Winnipeg and Chicago alone...On Winnipeg you have: Roslovic, Connor, Lemieux DeLeo and Petan....And that's not including Ehlers, Laine and Dano...All better than Vesey That's 8 forwards, all younger and better...All of those guys could get 53 points or more as 22-23 yr old in the ECAC. And Joel Armia is the same age....and on Chicago...there are Hinostroza, Schmaltz, Motte and Hartman. All better with none of the hype."


We may have made a terrible mistake.

- SomeoneGerman


If Armia ever hits 53 points I'll eat my monitor
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
If Armia ever hits 53 points I'll eat my monitor
- Slump Buster


maybe in the ECAC
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:24 PM ET



This kid better win the god damn calder with the attention he is getting

- DDM-Coga

Not like he gave himself the attention. He wanted to be a free agent.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
Chris Ostrander ‏@2ITB_Buffalo 1h1 hour ago

#Sources say Vesey bought a condo in NYC with Kevin Hayes


Anyone know anything about this guy and what the chances are of his information being correct?

He follows up that tweet saying that he hoped his source is wrong and that he isn't the most plugged in guy, but says this is the info he got.

Sounds a little out there to me, but who knows. Seems like if that has actually happened, more media would have it already. But then again, someone on TwoBillsDrive started hearing about the Dareus suspension 2 days before it actually came out.

Just passing along something new to talk about. Hopefully it is false.

- sven233


Ostrander is a good follow on Twitter but not because he is in the know. He spends most of his time bagging on the Sabres for not doing a bobble head night or ripping into the teams tweets or lack there of tweets.

Just a blogger not a source at all.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Aug 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
It would be a good investment and he could probably borrow against his first contract by now.
- SomeoneGerman


He did not sign a contract yet, so that does not make sense.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
You lost all credibility when you showed New York post as a source. And the TSN clip favors no one . The kid goes where he goes best of luck to him.



- Maximum Signal

Larry Brooks is quite literally the Bob McKenzie of the Rangers.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:26 PM ET
no Bills got suspended today, so far
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:26 PM ET
Which would make sense if Vesey was better than Marner and Nylander.
- Canada Cup


He isnt going to sign there just to be placed in the AHL. If hes signed, hes taking a rookie spot from someone
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:27 PM ET
He isnt going to sign there just to be placed in the AHL. If hes signed, hes taking a rookie spot from someone
- DDM-Coga

No matter which team he goes to, if he can't hack it, they'll send him to the AHL.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:28 PM ET
no Bills got suspended today, so far
- homiedclown


That's a bold/dangerous observation....especially considering its only 1:30..

They gotta get out of practice before they can start drinking and driving lol
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
He did not sign a contract yet, so that does not make sense.
- Lilroot9



In NYC it is not unheard of for lenders to make "non-recourse" loans that only look to the value of the property in deciding whether to make the loan. He has a co-signer who is a multimillionaire, and he's two weeks away from signing a contract for more than a million bucks himself.

His agent could find that loan in 25 minutes.
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
no Bills got suspended today, so far
- homiedclown



After yesterday's news i could see them opening up 0-4
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:30 PM ET
he's not a difference maker
- homiedclown

And? He's a complementary piece and he's getting paid like it. He makes 4.6, has a career p/g of .61, can play wing or center, and has hit the 20 goal mark 3 times in his short career. He's not being asked to carry this team, no one is expecting him to be the all-star. He's a good player with a decent contract that is being asked to play wing and put up some points.

I don't see us having a suitable replacement at the moment seeing as we'd be replacing the unknown of his health with the unknown of a rookie most likely. If he comes back and scores 15 goals on the 3rd line that's basically adding a 15 goal scorer for free since we barely had him at all last year. If he comes and plays on the top 6 that's fine too.

I just don't see the dislike. He's small, he's gotten hurt, he's not going to put up 80 points. That doesn't mean we have to throw him away especially for the peanuts we'd get for him at this point.

Edit: Don't want to seem combative, I just don't get why we'd want to move on from him when we have little to lose and a good player to gain if he plays here this year.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:31 PM ET
No matter which team he goes to, if he can't hack it, they'll send him to the AHL.
- rangerdanger94


exactly, you say what you have to say to get him signed, then he has to put up or shut up.

Thats how the Rangers signed Hayes away from the Avs (apparently he agreed to sign there first but Avs would only guarantee him a shot at winning a Top 9 role at camp, Rangers came in and guaranteed him a spot out of the gate)
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Aug 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
No matter which team he goes to, if he can't hack it, they'll send him to the AHL.
- rangerdanger94



Not true.... He isn't signing a 2-way/
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
exactly, you say what you have to say to get him signed, then he has to put up or shut up.

Thats how the Rangers signed Hayes away from the Avs (apparently he agreed to sign there first but Avs would only guarantee him a shot at winning a Top 9 role at camp, Rangers came in and guaranteed him a spot out of the gate)

- DDM-Coga

I'm not so sure Hayes would've made the team out of training camp if Stepan didn't break his leg in preseason.

But yea, say what you need to to make it official. After that, he's stuck.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 17 @ 1:33 PM ET
Not true.... He isn't signing a 2-way/
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

He can still get sent down. Just means he gets paid the same in the AHL.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:33 PM ET
Not true.... He isn't signing a 2-way/
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

2 way deal only means he gets paid differently if he is sent down to the AHL. Whether or not he has to pass through waivers depends on his age and NHL experience.

Nice username BTW
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Aug 17 @ 1:34 PM ET
2 way deal only means he gets paid differently if he is sent down to the AHL. Whether or not he has to pass through waivers depends on his age and NHL experience.

Nice username BTW

- rangerdanger94




CoHo is an All star!
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:35 PM ET
CoHo is an All star!
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

One of the best Sabres in the last decade
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