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SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
roomer has it, sammy has already been seen drinking at bars
- homiedclown


He left behind his license the night we were boozing together.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
roomer has it, 89 is at the airport waiting for olli

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:00 PM ET
He left behind his license the night we were boozing together.


- SomeoneGerman

this is a good post
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Aug 17 @ 2:00 PM ET
he was on a 40 point pace when he got hurt
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=89924

his lowest production as a sabre with more skilled linemates than recent years

- homiedclown


You're right. My freaking math skills really suck.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
You're right. My freaking math skills really suck.
- SomeoneGerman

stick to ice cream and sparkle parties

Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Aug 17 @ 2:02 PM ET
Batting .100 is actually not that good.... did you mean 1.000?
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I misplaced the decimal point thanks, although you mis quoted me.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Aug 17 @ 2:02 PM ET
Because Eichel and Reinhart just bought a 3 bedroom condo next to Pegula and are leaving the 3rd room open for Vesey(solely for beer buying purposes)
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Don't steal my takes and write them as your own. People seem to be pretty good at it.

As far as Hayes and Vesey buying a Condo together, how does that even work? What happens when one of them get traded or leave the team? One buys the other out? Unless the Rags swear they will let them play their entire career as a blue shirt. I'm calling shenanigans. I won't claim to know that this isn't common amongst players, but seems like it would be troublesome for two professional athletes to co-sign for a house with the uncertainty they'll always be playing together let alone live together. Maybe Hayes bought the house and there is speculation that Vesey will be his roommate, kinda like Sam and Jack, but seems odd they would be co-owners of the same mortgage.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
I misplaced the decimal point thanks, although you mis quoted me.
- Carubba-Kaleta



The 3rd zero was not necessary.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Don't steal my takes and write them as your own. People seem to be pretty good at it.

As far as Hayes and Vesey buying a Condo together, how does that even work? What happens when one of them get traded or leave the team? One buys the other out? Unless the Rags swear they will let them play their entire career as a blue shirt. I'm calling shenanigans. I won't claim to know that this isn't common amongst players, but seems like it would be troublesome for two professional athletes to co-sign for a house with the uncertainty they'll always be playing together let alone live together. Maybe Hayes bought the house and there is speculation that Vesey will be his roommate, kinda like Sam and Jack, but seems odd they would be co-owners of the same mortgage.

- Hatboro_Swords


Steal your takes? Please explain?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
I'd trade Ennis. I'd trade Kane. I'd trade Girgensons.

I'd also take any of the 3 in our top 9 any day.

Unless you are getting something good (or ridding yourselves of something toxic) then there is no point
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 2:06 PM ET
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/player-points-per-60-min-leaders/2015/


ennis put up 1.59 points per 60 minutes on top 2 lines

moulson put up 1.31 points per 60 minutes killing penalties and playing on the bottom 6



your move

- homiedclown


Ennis played "poorly" in a new system and with a new coach and new teammates. If the point you're trying to make here is that Moulson is more valuable than Ennis I don't think you're going to convince many here. One went from .53 p/g to .26 p/g while the other went from .59 p/g to .48 p/g. Moulson went from a top 6 player to a player that needed to have his minutes limited because he wasn't producing.

Ennis needs to be better and needs to play the system but he's not a bad player. If anything we've heard from a more credible source that Moulson is the one who slacked on his conditioning and gets paid even more than Ennis.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
You're right. My freaking math skills really suck.
- SomeoneGerman

Moulson did have the lowest point total of his career though. He also makes more than Ennis.

If we're going to be mad at anyone it should be Moulson.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
I'd trade Ennis. I'd trade Kane. I'd trade Girgensons.

I'd also take any of the 3 in our top 9 any day.

Unless you are getting something good (or ridding yourselves of something toxic) then there is no point

- sbroads24


The big issues are the contracts of Ennis and Kane IMO

If they aren't producing like top 6 forwards time to move on.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Aug 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
The 3rd zero was not necessary.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Ok thanks again, I'll be sure to look out for your mistakes in the future so I can correct you like a douch also.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
Moulson did have the lowest point total of his career though. He also makes more than Ennis.

If we're going to be mad at anyone it should be Moulson.

- Zschalberg


Who wouldn't start with Moulson but you're not getting someone to trade for him. Vegas is our only hope.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Aug 17 @ 2:11 PM ET
roomer has it, 89 is at the airport waiting for olli


- homiedclown

These guys are to gay what Richard Dawson was to game show hosts.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 2:12 PM ET
Who wouldn't start with Moulson but you're not getting someone to trade for him. Vegas is our only hope.
- Stripes77

I thought the same thing but apparently I was mistaken.

I'd like to keep Ennis this year to at least raise his value. If he comes out and looks like the same player he was before the injury you'll get a lot better haul than if you trade him now. Of course there's the risk he doesn't but I think the risk is worth the reward.

All that said, if the deal comes to make the team better you take it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:13 PM ET
Ennis played "poorly" in a new system and with a new coach and new teammates. If the point you're trying to make here is that Moulson is more valuable than Ennis I don't think you're going to convince many here. One went from .53 p/g to .26 p/g while the other went from .59 p/g to .48 p/g. Moulson went from a top 6 player to a player that needed to have his minutes limited because he wasn't producing.

Ennis needs to be better and needs to play the system but he's not a bad player. If anything we've heard from a more credible source that Moulson is the one who slacked on his conditioning and gets paid even more than Ennis.

- Zschalberg

eichel
ror
reinhart
kane
nylander
okposo

the only shot ennis has at being a top 6 player for this team in 12 months is if they move kane


and if they get vesey, there is no room for ennis or kane unless your trading reinhart for a top pair d man
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:14 PM ET
eichel
ror
reinhart
kane
nylander
okposo

the only shot ennis has at being a top 6 player for this team in 12 months is if they move kane


and if they get vesey, there is no room for ennis or kane unless your trading reinhart for a top pair d man

- homiedclown

Top 9. We need 9 forwards who can play.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 17 @ 2:15 PM ET
The New York Rangers would like to invite you to a meeting about a timeshare opportunity.

For 20 minutes of your time, you can choose a new set of golf clubs, or top 6 minutes on a rapidly declining team.

- sbroads24

That will be really embarrassing for the Sabres if Vesey chooses to sign with a rapidly declining crap team that only has 1 good player who is already 34 as opposed to the up and coming super stacked and young Sabres.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:16 PM ET
Top 9. We need 9 forwards who can play.
- sbroads24

bailey
fasching
carrier
foligno
larsson

those appear to be the cap friendly players
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Aug 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
That will be really embarrassing for the Sabres if Vesey chooses to sign with a rapidly declining crap team that only has 1 good player who is already 34 as opposed to the up and coming super stacked and young Sabres.
- rangerdanger94

I'm pretty sure this is meant to be sarcastic but a lot of truth here.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
eichel
ror
reinhart
kane
nylander
okposo

the only shot ennis has at being a top 6 player for this team in 12 months is if they move kane


and if they get vesey, there is no room for ennis or kane unless your trading reinhart for a top pair d man

- homiedclown

So let's trade him in 12 months. There's no guarantee that Nylander is making the team. Let Ennis play this year, get some points, and then trade him when his value is higher.

I've also said many times that Ennis could be a good 3rd line scoring center. Roll 3 scoring lines instead of just 2 and try to play the matchup game. He has speed and can put up points. A 3rd line of Girgensons-Ennis-Bailey would work for me while you have those 6 guys above him. It's a more expensive 3rd line but if you're dropping Gionta and Franson next year and replacing some higher paid players with people on ELCs you can potentially swing it. If you can, great. If you can't then you trade him.

I'm fine with trading him. I won't agree that he's a bad player, worse than Moulson, or that he needs to be traded lest he taint the team.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:18 PM ET
That will be really embarrassing for the Sabres if Vesey chooses to sign with a rapidly declining crap team that only has 1 good player who is already 34 as opposed to the up and coming super stacked and young Sabres.
- rangerdanger94


It would be embarrassing, for Vesey. We all think he is smart, going to Harvard and that would be a unintelligent signing.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:18 PM ET
That will be really embarrassing for the Sabres if Vesey chooses to sign with a rapidly declining crap team that only has 1 good player who is already 34 as opposed to the up and coming super stacked and young Sabres.
- rangerdanger94

Yep. Also embarrassing for the 3x cup winning Hawks or reigning champ Penguins if he signs with the Rags too. Oh well, it's his life.
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