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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 19 @ 9:24 AM ET
Nah, it was an age thing..and I haven't paid attention to baseball in over a decade, so not that. No big whoop, just some nagging thing that always makes me question the Junior eligibility.
- stashu


My old brain does that to me also. I'll get something in my head but it relates to something other than what I swear it should.
Havic3814
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Albany, NY
Joined: 08.25.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:25 AM ET
My name is not John Snow.
- Der Kaiser



Neither is his really
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Aug 19 @ 9:31 AM ET
My old brain does that to me also. I'll get something in my head but it relates to something other than what I swear it should.
- dragonoffrost


Yeah, likely what this is...September 15 sticking in my mind over something. That's not the age cutoff for draftees, is it (or close to that)?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 19 @ 9:31 AM ET
Regarding Vesey

If it had been Boston, would've been over by now.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
http://www.todaysslapshot...entify-nhls-best-passers/

Good article. Ryan O'Reilly is considered one of the best passers in the league.

Rasmus Ristolainen is not......
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 19 @ 9:34 AM ET
Regarding Vesey

If it had been Boston, would've been over by now.

- homiedclown


I agree if it was all about Boston he's signed already. It just shows this kid really wanted to look at all his options.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
http://www.todaysslapshot.com/one-timers/using-shot-assists-identify-nhls-best-passers/

Good article. Ryan O'Reilly is considered one of the best passers in the league.

Rasmus Ristolainen is not......

- sbroads24


Anyone else EXTREMELY nervous that we are just a few short months from the season and he remains UNSIGNED!!??

and Zemgus.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
Regarding Vesey

If it had been Boston, would've been over by now.

- homiedclown

Same to be said about Buffalo. I think he's just taking his time because he has that opportunity. There's no reason to rush. He had his last meeting Wednesday, had a night to sleep on it and a day to discuss it with his family. Today is the day where he decides.

Joe Haggerty of CSNNE says he's worried about the pressure of Boston. If that's the case Toronto may not be the place for you either. You want to be close to home and no one care about whether you win or lose NJ should be the favorite
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
I agree if it was all about Boston he's signed already. It just shows this kid really wanted to look at all his options.
- Stripes77


I feel like he goes to CHI or NJD honestly. I'd hate it but that is my gut feeling.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:36 AM ET
Anyone else EXTREMELY nervous that we are just a few short months from the season and he remains UNSIGNED!!??

and Zemgus.

- JVince11

If Vesey wasn't a thing, yes. If 2 weeks go by after he signs somewhere and there's still no movement on Risto then I'll start to get a bit nervous.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:38 AM ET
If Vesey wasn't a thing, yes. If 2 weeks go by after he signs somewhere and there's still no movement on Risto then I'll start to get a bit nervous.
- Zschalberg


Vesey's contract is a set ELC though. It doesn't make that big of a difference if they sign him or not because they know EXACTLY what would come out of the cap.


Then again.. maybe they want to hold off because if they don't get Vesey then they will have to make a move ot fill that top 6 void and need the cap?
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
Vesey's contract is a set ELC though. It doesn't make that big of a difference if they sign him or not because they know EXACTLY what would come out of the cap.


Then again.. maybe they want to hold off because if they don't get Vesey then they will have to make a move ot fill that top 6 void and need the cap?

- JVince11

I'm looking at it as more of a "Do I need to fill this spot". I have no idea but maybe there are teams thinking "If I get this guy I can move this guy" or are saying "Yeah we like that deal just let us figure this stuff out first".

But that's all just guessing and hoping on my part. I'd like to see a mini frenzy after he signs
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
I'm looking at it as more of a "Do I need to fill this spot". I have no idea but maybe there are teams thinking "If I get this guy I can move this guy" or are saying "Yeah we like that deal just let us figure this stuff out first".

But that's all just guessing and hoping on my part. I'd like to see a mini frenzy after he signs

- Zschalberg


I think that is putting too much weight in a college free agent. This dude will NEVER live up to the hype and expectations put on during this stage show of the past few months.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
Regarding Vesey

If it had been Boston, would've been over by now.

- homiedclown

Saw you posted a pic on FB. Thought it might have been a damp t-shirt. You pup is getting big . My mom's dog is 120# and eats everything. Ate the grill LP hose 3 times. Wheels off the grill. Picket fence is missing about 8' . Took the gutter off the side of the house . I think it is part goat.
Losman
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
hudler-ror-okposo
vesey-eichel-reinhart
kane-larsson-gionta
moulson-foligno-deslaurers

ship out girgens and franson with a pick for d man X

risto-kulikov
mccabe/player x-bogo
mccabe/player x - gorges
nelson

We don't have Vesey or Hudler, and even with them that doesn't look like a 95 point playoff team.

Does GMTM really know what he's doing or is he all style and no substance?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
I think that is putting too much weight in a college free agent. This dude will NEVER live up to the hype and expectations put on during this stage show of the past few months.
- JVince11

The media did it . not him. He is lucky enough to be able to pick the team he wants to play for instead of hoping a team will pick him.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
hudler-ror-okposo
vesey-eichel-reinhart
kane-larsson-gionta
moulson-foligno-deslaurers

ship out girgens and franson with a pick for d man X

risto-kulikov
mccabe/player x-bogo
mccabe/player x - gorges
nelson

We don't have Vesey or Hudler, and even with them that doesn't look like a 95 point playoff team.

Does GMTM really know what he's doing or is he all style and no substance?

- Losman


Hudler..... HUDLER?

Yea... I'm sure that guy who is still a UFA at the end of August is the sure top line winger we have been searching for!
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Aug 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
I feel like he goes to CHI or NJD honestly. I'd hate it but that is my gut feeling.
- JVince11

My gut says buffalo or NJ but I did have mighty taco yesterday.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Aug 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
The media did it . not him. He is lucky enough to be able to pick the team he wants to play for instead of hoping a team will pick him.
- cabin


Media and the NHL/NHLPA with their stupid August 15th date...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
Hudler..... HUDLER?

Yea... I'm sure that guy who is still a UFA at the end of August is the sure top line winger we have been searching for!

- JVince11

122 points over the past two years.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
hudler-ror-okposo
vesey-eichel-reinhart
kane-larsson-gionta
moulson-foligno-deslaurers

ship out girgens and franson with a pick for d man X

risto-kulikov
mccabe/player x-bogo
mccabe/player x - gorges
nelson

We don't have Vesey or Hudler, and even with them that doesn't look like a 95 point playoff team.

Does GMTM really know what he's doing or is he all style and no substance?

- Losman

Why doesn't it? What more are you wanting? You have a solid 1st line (That I would switch to Kane instead of Hudler), a 2nd line that can also score, a 3rd line that you forgot to add Ennis to, a 4th line with good 4th line players (and Moulson). Your defense was 16th best in the league last year with your 6th defenseman as your 2nd D. You played most of last year with a career backup.

Again, what more do you want us to do? There's no big fix out there right now. If Murray had been lucky and gotten Ekblad, McDavid, and Stamkos would you be happy? Because nothing he did stopped us from getting them.

With your guys I would do it as:

Kane-ROR-Okposo (Big line. ROR makes players better)
Vesey-Eichel-Reinhart (Young, hopefully has chemistry again.)
Hudler-Ennis-Moulson (Hoping Ennis and Moulson together work again)
Foligno-Larsson-Gionta (Played well last year. D-lo on deck for injury)

That's a solid team. With a defense that is already improved why can't they challenge for an extra 14 points?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 19 @ 9:52 AM ET
Why doesn't it? What more are you wanting? You have a solid 1st line (That I would switch to Kane instead of Hudler), a 2nd line that can also score, a 3rd line that you forgot to add Ennis to, a 4th line with good 4th line players (and Moulson). Your defense was 16th best in the league last year with your 6th defenseman as your 2nd D. You played most of last year with a career backup.

Again, what more do you want us to do? There's no big fix out there right now. If Murray had been lucky and gotten Ekblad, McDavid, and Stamkos would you be happy? Because nothing he did stopped us from getting them.

- Zschalberg

So if this team isn't good enough, we are chalking it up to bad luck?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:53 AM ET
122 points over the past two years.
- sbroads24


And yet is still a UFA on August 19th.

Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks he is not worth signing...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 19 @ 9:54 AM ET
And yet is still a UFA on August 19th.

Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks he is not worth signing...

- JVince11

Means nothing
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Aug 19 @ 9:54 AM ET


With your guys I would do it as:

Kane-ROR-Okposo (Big line. ROR makes players better)
Vesey-Eichel-Reinhart (Young, hopefully has chemistry again.)
Hudler-Ennis-Moulson (Hoping Ennis and Moulson together work again)
Foligno-Larsson-Gionta (Played well last year. D-lo on deck for injury)

That's a solid team. With a defense that is already improved why can't they challenge for an extra 14 points?

- Zschalberg


I could see us switching Reinhart and Okposo just so that line is not ALL youth. Reinhart played very well on ROR's wing last year as well.
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