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golfingsince
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Aug 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
I'm sure Aqua Man would love to drop $500K on a face off coach
- CanuckDon


I bet Manny's real eager to be a member of the Canucks again too
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 16 @ 11:03 PM ET
It's going to be poop hockey, and people who expect it to be anything more are deluding themselves. Do you really think the players are going to want to play as hard they do in the regular season/playoffs during the time they normally are in training camp/exhibition season? This isn't the 1984/88 Canada Cup we're talking about.
- DariusKnight


Frankly, I don't care what people expect (and one could say people that don't anticipate all of that incredible talent to perform well are the delusional ones). I know it will be enjoyable to watch (especially after going without any hockey all summer long). I doubt we'll see the intensity of playofffs or a playoff drive but I still think there is going to be a lot of great talent to watch and it will be a fun and competitive tournament (hockey players are competitive people and there will be a lot of pride on the line, anytime there is any sort of international element involved). The only concern I have is with respect to injuries - hopefully the players that are participating will prepare properly and there won't be any significant issues. Again, I'm really looking forward to it
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Aug 16 @ 11:06 PM ET
I bet Manny's real eager to be a member of the Canucks again too
- golfingsince


If he wants to come and Aquillini wants to pay him it won't hurt my feelings but he'll probably rank somewhere between new hot dogs and the sleep doctor in his impact on actual wins and losses.

He seemed like a pretty smart level headed guy. He could probably start pursuing an actual coaching career.
golfingsince
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Aug 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
If he wants to come and Aquillini wants to pay him it won't hurt my feelings but he'll probably rank somewhere between new hot dogs and the sleep doctor in his impact on actual wins and losses.

He seemed like a pretty smart level headed guy. He could probably start pursuing an actual coaching career.

- CubanBuffet

So behind the Roxy?
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Aug 16 @ 11:12 PM ET
So behind the Roxy?
- golfingsince


Way behind.
golfingsince
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Aug 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
Way behind.
- CubanBuffet

Bring back O'Brien as a partying coach.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 16 @ 11:29 PM ET
Great comeback win by the Jays tonight!
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 16 @ 11:31 PM ET
Frankly, I don't care what people expect (and one could say people that don't anticipate all of that incredible talent to perform well are the delusional ones). I know it will be enjoyable to watch (especially after going without any hockey all summer long). I doubt we'll see the intensity of playofffs or a playoff drive but I still think there is going to be a lot of great talent to watch and it will be a fun and competitive tournament (hockey players are competitive people and there will be a lot of pride on the line, anytime there is any sort of international element involved). The only concern I have is with respect to injuries - hopefully the players that are participating will prepare properly and there won't be any significant issues. Again, I'm really looking forward to it
- Zogg


There's the understatement of the year.

It's going to be silly allstar hockey. I don't care for this tournament and will not be going out of my way to watch or cheer for some random team.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 16 @ 11:52 PM ET
Great comeback win by the Jays tonight!
- Scooby_Doo

amazing game! I'm heading to watch he Jays vs Angels in LA in a month!
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 16 @ 11:56 PM ET
There's the understatement of the year.

It's going to be silly allstar hockey. I don't care for this tournament and will not be going out of my way to watch or cheer for some random team.

- Scooby_Doo


Exactly, there's literally nothing on the line that wasn't contrived by the NHL/NHLPA. It's just an exhibition tournament solely to replace the ASG every 4 years to get corporate sponsors to buy into the NHL. It's also a way for the NHL/PA to thumb their nose at the IIHF and IOC for not being willing to pay for travel/insurance for players so that the NHL/PA would sanction players going to the next Winter Olympics in South Korea.

Again, anyone expecting something like the 1972 Summit Series or the 1984/88 Canada Cup tourney is going to be disappointed. There's no more Cold War on to make a tournament like this be compelling and with it not being sanctioned by the IIHF and being run by the NHL with NHL rules/officials, it's not even a real World Cup. It's like MLS soccer putting on a tourney with all the best nations but under MLS rules/officials and no FIFA approval and calling it the World Championships, it's just not the same.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 16 @ 11:59 PM ET
jarvis is known as a defensive specialist....and has run special teams.
Never heard of him being faceoff guy, but who knows maybe he does that too.

I'll say this, however ran the D during the playoffs against pittsburg a few years ago (when they swept them) was a genius. Not sure if it was Jarvis or Houda that year. Whoever it was he sure knew how to protect the goal wow.

I'm sure theres some video on youtube or something for those who wish to review it.

- SMBDragon


Jarvis was a Selke winning player before becoming a coach. He has a very rich history of skills to surround the youth in Vancouver. Look him up. You won't be disappointed.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Aug 17 @ 12:00 AM ET
Bring back O'Brien as a partying coach.
- golfingsince


It's fun spending Aquillini's money.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 17 @ 12:15 AM ET
Exactly, there's literally nothing on the line that wasn't contrived by the NHL/NHLPA. It's just an exhibition tournament solely to replace the ASG every 4 years to get corporate sponsors to buy into the NHL. It's also a way for the NHL/PA to thumb their nose at the IIHF and IOC for not being willing to pay for travel/insurance for players so that the NHL/PA would sanction players going to the next Winter Olympics in South Korea.

Again, anyone expecting something like the 1972 Summit Series or the 1984/88 Canada Cup tourney is going to be disappointed.
There's no more Cold War on to make a tournament like this be compelling and with it not being sanctioned by the IIHF and being run by the NHL with NHL rules/officials, it's not even a real World Cup. It's like MLS soccer putting on a tourney with all the best nations but under MLS rules/officials and no FIFA approval and calling it the World Championships, it's just not the same.

- DariusKnight


I don't think there are many people expecting the Summit Series or 1984/88 Canada Cup (you are the only one so far that has referenced these series as any sort of comparison). No one said this was going to be 7th game overtime intensity; however, it will be great entertainment nonetheless. If you choose not to watch then so be it, you are the one missing out on some great hockey. And that's what I care about, I couldn't give a rat's ass about the internal mechanisms or dynamics of the genesis of this tournament, whether it be from a NHLPA or NHL or IIHF perspective (the same goes for the name of the tournament - it can be called the Toronto Bongfest 2016 for all I care). I'll be there to watch a whole slew of talent showcasing themselves and bringing my favourite sport back on t.v. as soon as possible.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Aug 17 @ 12:20 AM ET
I don't think there are many people expecting the Summit Series or 1984/88 Canada Cup (you are the only one so far that has referenced these series as any sort of comparison). No one said this was going to be 7th game overtime intensity; however, it will be great entertainment nonetheless. If you choose not to watch then so be it, you are the one missing out on some great hockey. And that's what I care about, I couldn't give a rat's ass about the internal mechanisms or dynamics of the genesis of this tournament, whether it be from a NHLPA or NHL or IIHF perspective (the same goes for the name of the tournament - it can be called the Toronto Bongfest 2016 for all I care). I'll be there to watch a whole slew of talent showcasing themselves and bringing my favourite sport back on t.v. as soon as possible.
- Zogg


Agreed. The hockey could be shlt, but it could be interesting as well. I don't know why any hockey fan would write it off before it has even started.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 17 @ 12:32 AM ET
Agreed. The hockey could be shlt, but it could be interesting as well. I don't know why any hockey fan would write it off before it has even started.
- CubanBuffet


I'm not that excited but I will probably watch anyways. I'm interested to see how the Sedins fair with Eriksson and that's about it.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Aug 17 @ 12:43 AM ET
I'm not that excited but I will probably watch anyways. I'm interested to see how the Sedins fair with Eriksson and that's about it.
- WhatTheNuck


I watched a junior prep tournament in August, so anything that involves sticks and ice, really.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 17 @ 12:46 AM ET
Agreed. The hockey could be shlt, but it could be interesting as well. I don't know why any hockey fan would write it off before it has even started.
- CubanBuffet


The hockey will be poop. But if it's on I will watch it. As long as the Jays aren't playing at that time.

To be honest, I don't even know when the games start, where they are played on what teams are involved.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Aug 17 @ 12:56 AM ET
Jarvis was a Selke winning player before becoming a coach. He has a very rich history of skills to surround the youth in Vancouver. Look him up. You won't be disappointed.
- WhatTheNuck

I knew he was a player in the past. But retired like 30 years ago. Didnt know he when the selke...cool
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 17 @ 12:56 AM ET
I watched a junior prep tournament in August, so anything that involves sticks and ice, really.
- CubanBuffet


SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:15 AM ET
Agreed. The hockey could be shlt, but it could be interesting as well. I don't know why any hockey fan would write it off before it has even started.
- CubanBuffet

ya Im looking forward to it.
bonus is it can get the players going early so nhl season is flying
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:29 AM ET
ya Im looking forward to it.
bonus is it can get the players going early so nhl season is flying

- SMBDragon


Or get injured and miss 2 months to start the season.

I'm interested if the players are under contractual obligations to play. I wouldn't be surprised to see players start to pull out. Makes no sense for Crosby to play after having a long cup run, concussion issues, and trying to stay healthy for this upcoming season.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:43 AM ET
Money grab of course. It will benefit HRR which can help raise future salary caps. (just like those ridiculous stadium series outdoor games that one year).

It's not the Olympics, so let's not compare it. It's hockey season early! I'm fascinated about Team NA. It'll be awesome to see how they do. I'd like to see them win actually. But obviously I'll cheer for Canada. But, if Canada does win, I won't be running out into the streets waving my flag.

It's hockey. Should be entertaining. Great warmup to the year.

Save the Olympics for the Olympics.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:47 AM ET
Still remember Bossy's O/T game winner against the Russians in the semi-final... what a great game that was to watch.

It was called the greatest single game played at the time. Not sure if anything surpassed it since.

- kaptaan


Coffey breaking up the 2 on 1. Bossy with the redirect out of mid air. I was pretty young and I remember that sequence.

Meant a lot more to the fans and players when the Russians were still over in Russia.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:48 AM ET
(frank)in rights ...so pumped for Sundays
- Redmile247



Seahawks!
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:54 AM ET
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=55XtHV_vwcY&feature=share
- Scooby_Doo


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