Went young with an emphasis on development while trying to match the low bar of Ryan's roster in terms of competition.

Smith(NSH)-Johnson or Killorn-Atkinson(CBJ)
Rakell(ANA)-Burmistrov(WPG)-Karlsson(SJ)
Martin(TOR)-Granland(MIN)-Ennis if Kane isn't available.
Roussel(DAL)-Sheahan(DET)-Rust(PIT)

Martinez(LA)-Demers assuming he is out performed by the young depth
Gelinas(COL)-TVR(CHI)
Orlov(WSH)-McIlrath(NYR)

Neuvirth(PHI)
Wedgewood take zajac if Johnson is not available

Subban, nestrisil, strome, Granland, rienhart, Martinook, Wotherspoon, Puempel, de la rose, Lindbohm
- BrainSap

So your starting goalie is a pending UFA? Best of luck with that.

I think that it will be incredibly hard to build a fan base in Las Vegas, what with the demographic and plethora of other things to do, unless you can ice a competitive team right off the bat. If you want a cellar dweller for 3-4 years out of the gate, no one in LV will care at all after the initial 10 or so games. Granted, a lot of their fans will be visiting tourists, but for the sake of merchandise and brand sales, no team that has to compete with the strip can afford to be miserable to start off.

This is an incredibly ignorant opinion, im surprised it was you that said it. Outside of the tourist area of Las Vegas there is a very normal city with very normal people. They have been dying for any kind of a professional franchise. Yes I am sure the hotels and casinos will be comping tickets to guests but there will also be huge support from every day people just like Philly but probably not as stupid, present company excluded.

So your starting goalie is a pending UFA? Best of luck with that.
- jmatchett383

Your right mike smith or Hammond it is

Your right mike smith or Hammond it is
- BrainSap

Halak or Miller as well

This is an incredibly ignorant opinion, im surprised it was you that said it. Outside of the tourist area of Las Vegas there is a very normal city with very normal people. They have been dying for any kind of a professional franchise. Yes I am sure the hotels and casinos will be comping tickets to guests but there will also be huge support from every day people just like Philly but probably not as stupid, present company excluded.
- Dcoms

cool

Edit: Hi pot, I'm kettle.

Halak or Miller as well
- BrainSap

Yeah, I'd probably go Halak.

cool

Edit: Hi pot, I'm kettle.
- jmatchett383

Yeah I obviously did that on purpose, good catch though

If Las Vegas wins the draft lottery then getting Nolan Patrick, a 6'4" first line, Toews but bigger and a better scorer changes everything for them. They get a top 3'pick the year after and get a number 1dman then they are on the fast track. It could happen.

Yeah I obviously did that on purpose, good catch though
- Dcoms

Granted, I have not met a ton of people from Las Vegas personally. That said, I do have friends who know people from there, and the descriptions of the general area outside of the strip, and its inhabitants, is not your general hockey demographic and, from what I've gathered, Reno ain't so hot, either. I can't speak to the rest of the surrounding cities.

And there are a poopload of horrible people from Philadelphia. And Pittsburgh. And New York. And Boston. And Chicago. And Detroit. And every other major and minor metropolitan area. There are also an abundance of intelligent people in all of these locations who go largely unnoticed because good people do not generally make headlines.

Granted, I have not met a ton of people from Las Vegas personally. That said, I do have friends who know people from there, and the descriptions of the general area outside of the strip, and its inhabitants, is not your general hockey demographic and, from what I've gathered, Reno ain't so hot, either. I can't speak to the rest of the surrounding cities.

And there are a poopload of horrible people from Philadelphia. And Pittsburgh. And New York. And Boston. And Chicago. And Detroit. And every other major and minor metropolitan area. There are also an abundance of intelligent people in all of these locations who go largely unnoticed because good people do not generally make headlines.
- jmatchett383

Wasn't it already established by HB concensus that 1 poopty fan represents the whole fan base?? There's no taking back now, ALL Flyers fans are bumholes (it was proven, agreed upon & the HB vote will stand!)

Cullen resigned, 1 year, 1 mil.

So does that mean we are OUT on Vesey? Or am I just late and Vesey signed elsewhere

Las Vegas should have decent defensive depth..


Sens ARE protecting Cody Ceci.. They WILL lose Marc Methot

Rumors starting to float that Cullen has resigned for a 1 year 1 mil contract...if true, awesome and more awesome.

Rumors starting to float that Cullen has resigned for a 1 year 1 mil contract...if true, awesome and more awesome.
- Thorny

Official 15 minutes ago

http://penguins.nhl.com/c...196&cmpid=pit-fb-penguins

Granted, I have not met a ton of people from Las Vegas personally. That said, I do have friends who know people from there, and the descriptions of the general area outside of the strip, and its inhabitants, is not your general hockey demographic and, from what I've gathered, Reno ain't so hot, either. I can't speak to the rest of the surrounding cities.

And there are a poopload of horrible people from Philadelphia. And Pittsburgh. And New York. And Boston. And Chicago. And Detroit. And every other major and minor metropolitan area. There are also an abundance of intelligent people in all of these locations who go largely unnoticed because good people do not generally make headlines.
- jmatchett383

I never said otherwise, your second paragraph, all I said was there is a lot more to Las Vegas than just the strip. Full of regular people that would love to have any major sports franchise and it's not important that it's not a place you would associate with hockey, neither was Arizona, neither was California and now both have thriving youth hockey. Not on the scale of anywhere in Canada but much more that they did.

Cullen resigned, 1 year, 1 mil.

So does that mean we are OUT on Vesey? Or am I just late and Vesey signed elsewhere
- Guile

Vesey is waiting till Friday or Saturday to decide. I guess This means he didn't like our pitch.

Vesey is waiting till Friday or Saturday to decide. I guess This means he didn't like our pitch.
- Dcoms

They still could fit both of them in, Cullen at 1 mil was almost as cheap as possible. But would need some more cap shenanigans.

Vesey is waiting till Friday or Saturday to decide. I guess This means he didn't like our pitch.
- Dcoms

Rather have Cullen & a little cap room. Vesey isn't worth the cap room.

So happy to have Cullen back. Love that they kept the team together!!!

Excellent resigning... wasnt a must sign but it once again provides huge strength at centre and allows some younger at wing to show what they got. Having everyone but Lovejoy back is massive.

That being said... Vesey could still end up a pen.... you just never know. The pens can deal with bonus iffyness next year.

Cullen resigned, 1 year, 1 mil.

So does that mean we are OUT on Vesey? Or am I just late and Vesey signed elsewhere
- Guile

It shouldn't effect anything. As I understand it, Pens might not even be able to use the full bonus cushion, they would have to construct a 23 man roster that went exactly to the cap plus Dupuis's full cap hit. All signing Vesey does is create one less spot for a waiver eligible forward like Wilson, Sundqvist, and maybe Sheary (not sure on him).

It shouldn't effect anything. As I understand it, Pens might not even be able to use the full bonus cushion, they would have to construct a 23 man roster that went exactly to the cap plus Dupuis's full cap hit. All signing Vesey does is create one less spot for a waiver eligible forward like Wilson, Sundqvist, and maybe Sheary (not sure on him).
- Tojo.

That was my assumption, but all the cap sites have different totals. It did feel like an odd timing for Cullen's signing though.

It shouldn't effect anything. As I understand it, Pens might not even be able to use the full bonus cushion, they would have to construct a 23 man roster that went exactly to the cap plus Dupuis's full cap hit. All signing Vesey does is create one less spot for a waiver eligible forward like Wilson, Sundqvist, and maybe Sheary (not sure on him).
- Tojo.

Sheary isn't waiver eligible. Wilson and Sund yes.

GMJR said they are still in on Vess, said there is cap room for him. Said he is the only other thing going on in terms of players

http://blog.triblive.com/...pt-at-math/#axzz4HbIyPa7P

Bombulie did a good piece on our cap situation a while back. If you don't want to read the full article, I'd say the key points are:

1) That our cap space will basically be the difference between the highest 23 man roster they can make up to the cap plus Dupuis's cap hit minus our actual likely 22 man roster.

2) Cullen likely won't have a big enough cap hit to effect that number as his salary won't be much more than Sundqvist's and still won't push us over the limit.