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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:36 PM ET
"Now I am the first to admit that rumors are my game...NOT Prospects."

It might be time to pick a new game to play
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:39 PM ET
Well he had less points in his senior season that Zach Hymen, so I'd say, not very good
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:40 PM ET
Your source who said he wouldn't get 20 goals in the AHL is wrong. Vesey will immediately become one of the top 5 prospects in the game. He's that good.

He'll be a Bruin. I am sure of it.

- Bruiniak


weren't you also sure that he'd sign in boston by noon yesterday......
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Offseason champs yet again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
"Now I am the first to admit that rumors are my game...NOT Prospects."

It might be time to pick a new game to play

- Vukota


You still patrolling these streets in your white panel van?
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
yeah Justin Schultz, Blake Wheeler and Kevin Hayes all regret their decisions.
- Fountain-San


I'm sure Schultz does
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
You still patrolling these streets in your white panel van?
- WayneZ

My man!! You just get out of the pen? Must have had you in protective custody. Kiddie fiddlers don't last long in those places. Good to see you back in action
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 17 @ 1:43 PM ET

- BINGO!


I said it on another blog, but the only way I think the Vesey hype would be justified/cool would be if he actually signs with a team like Carolina or New Jersey.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
I said it on another blog, but the only way I think the Vesey hype would be justified/cool would be if he actually signs with a team like Carolina or New Jersey.
- Hank3Henshaw


I don't think it happens. Not sure I want it to, either.
jnyfive
New York Rangers
Joined: 02.07.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
The league has to close this loop hole. Its terrible, he should have just signed in nashville. His decision not to is just odd, the team is set up to be a contender for years especially once they add a couple more forwards.
- mauryballstein


Its not a loophole. Each team holds a draftees rights for a set amount of time, I believe 3 years. If they don't sign they can become a FA but they lose those years they could have been pro plus any money. Its a risk that he and Kevin Hayes have taken. Its their right to go this route. It sucks but you can't have a team hold rights forever.
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:51 PM ET
oh stop. he may not pan out, he will, but he was deserving of the Hobey Baker.
- Fountain-San

Connor should have won it running away.
However Vesey was a deserving finalist.
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Offseason champs yet again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
My man!! You just get out of the pen? Must have had you in protective custody. Kiddie fiddlers don't last long in those places. Good to see you back in action
- Vukota


I got some sweet prison tats while I was in.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
The league has to close this loop hole. Its terrible, he should have just signed in nashville. His decision not to is just odd, the team is set up to be a contender for years especially once they add a couple more forwards.
- mauryballstein


There is no loophole. He's 23. How long after you are drafted does a team own you? Until you die? The rule was written the way it is on purpose. Not as some, oh crap we didn't think about this scenario.

If he was a former first round pick there is compensation from the team that signed him to the team that drafted. I'm not sure if it's a first rounder though. Isn't that proof enough that this type of scenario was given explicit consideration when crafting the rule?

He was drafted as a 3rd round pick like a hundred years ago. 3rd rounders aren't very valuable. Preds didn't lose much.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:56 PM ET
Connor should have won it running away.
However Vesey was a deserving finalist.

- yemrots

Connor and Scheifele are gonig to kill it if they play on a line together.
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:56 PM ET
Jeremy Welsh:

19 points in 39 games at 21
37 Points in 40 games at 22
44 points in 40 games at 23 (including 27 goals)

Career AHLer.

- BINGO!

You're better than this Bingo.
There were a lot of guys in the WHL that dominated (Dale Derkatch, Dan Hodgson, Brad Moran, etc) that did nothing in the NHL.

However none were 6'2, a great skater and had an NHL release.
That's what the scouts are looking at.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
I got some sweet prison tats while I was in.
- WayneZ


Nice
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
Connor and Scheifele are gonig to kill it if they play on a line together.
- tomburton99

Unfortunatly Connor, Ehlers and Laine all play LW.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
You're better than this Bingo.
There were a lot of guys in the WHL that dominated (Dale Derkatch, Dan Hodgson, Brad Moran, etc) that did nothing in the NHL.

However none were 6'2, a great skater and had an NHL release.
That's what the scouts are looking at.

- yemrots


Sure, but Welsh was a solid skater and had great size as a college free agent too.

He's not Vesey level, but he wasn't that far off at the time.

I'm not expecting much.
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
Sure, but Welsh was a solid skater and had great size as a college free agent too.

He's not Vesey level, but he wasn't that far off at the time.

I'm not expecting much.

- BINGO!

I'm thinking Tyler Bozak level of success.
Maybe more goals.

Certainly not the same player but that kind of level of points.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 17 @ 2:02 PM ET
Connor should have won it running away.
However Vesey was a deserving finalist.

- yemrots

now.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Aug 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
oh stop. he may not pan out, he will, but he was deserving of the Hobey Baker.
- Fountain-San

Connor was by far and away the best player in college hockey last season.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 17 @ 2:04 PM ET
Connor was by far and away the best player in college hockey last season.
- mauryballstein

hard to argue.

but i think your dismissal of Vesey as a legit player is not fair.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Aug 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
Connor should have won it running away.
However Vesey was a deserving finalist.

- yemrots

if you look at the numbers he actually wasnt considering he was 4 years older than connor and others.
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
now.
- Fountain-San

Yes...now.

Also at the end of the season you idiot.

Connor had 11 more goals and 25 more points than him....as a rookie.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Aug 17 @ 2:05 PM ET
hard to argue.

but i think your dismissal of Vesey as a legit player is not fair.

- Fountain-San

he is a legit prospect but people thinking he is going to be an all star are crazy, he probably be a good 2nd liner.

my comments were to the guy saying top 5 prospect in the league. so i pointed out that he isnt even the best player in college hockey.
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:06 PM ET
if you look at the numbers he actually wasnt considering he was 4 years older than connor and others.
- mauryballstein

That makes sense if it was for rookie of the year.
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