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- BINGO!

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You don't really subscribe to that whole player development "thing" huh? Well different strokes for different folks.
- One_Eyed_Sweede

right? jesus.

That the Hawks are kind of dumb.
- BINGO!

I have a hard time making that allegation against a team with a bunch of recent championship banners hanging in their arena.

E Kane is perhaps the most overrated guy in the league. His career 0.603 PPG is hardly spectacular....
- Milk_Babchoc

Kane is one sneeze away from being kicked off the team and Ennis is an eggshell waiting for the next injury. Vesey will take a top six spot on a line with Eichel and Reinhart. Top line will likely be Okposo, O'Reilly, Kane and if Kane shoots him self in the foot they will re-shuffle

right? jesus.
- Fountain-San

We could be dealing with either Shero or the George Steinbrenner era Yankees here. Develop players? (frank) that! Trade em'

You don't really subscribe to that whole player development "thing" huh? Well different strokes for different folks.
- One_Eyed_Sweede

If your idea of development is a 23 year old dominating a bunch of 18 to 20 year old players, then we have a very different view on development.

See, unless a player happens to be a phenom, my idea of development is giving him professional playing time. You know, so he can actually learn and develop at the professional level. Nahhh, that's silly. My bad.

I have a hard time making that allegation against a team with a bunch of recent championship banners hanging in their arena.
- 1979AD

Bought and paid for by the previous regime.

Every year brings them a step closer to a precipice of their own design. They've had a good run, but it won't be long until they're just barely battling for a playoff spot and trying to justify $10 million for a 50 point player.

If your idea of development is a 23 year old dominating a bunch of 18 to 20 year old players, then we have a very different view on development.

See, unless a player happens to be a phenom, my idea of development is giving him professional playing time. You know, so he can actually learn and develop at the professional level. Nahhh, that's silly. My bad.
- Rinosaur

who says he can't play a year in the ahl if he proves not good enough for the nhl out of training camp?

agreed.

best not to acquire new players in case they don't work out.
- Tumbleweed

My spidey-sense detects sarcasm.

If he ends up in NJ, then he is a lock for the calder, and it was the best move of the entire off season. If he ends up anywhere else, he is an over rated nobody that doesn't have a lick of NHL street cred.

who says he can't play a year in the ahl if he proves not good enough for the nhl out of training camp?
- Tumbleweed

That's not the point of an ELC or what Vesey is attempting to accomplish. Vesey wants to play in the NHL right now and wants to play for a team that's going to give him that playing time.

If your idea of development is a 23 year old dominating a bunch of 18 to 20 year old players, then we have a very different view on development.

See, unless a player happens to be a phenom, my idea of development is giving him professional playing time. You know, so he can actually learn and develop at the professional level. Nahhh, that's silly. My bad.
- Rinosaur

I'm guessing you're 15 if 23 is old? Hype aside he could develop, he could not. If this was January rather than August the whole hype behind this kid is 2 blogs max.

If your idea of development is a 23 year old dominating a bunch of 18 to 20 year old players, then we have a very different view on development.

See, unless a player happens to be a phenom, my idea of development is giving him professional playing time. You know, so he can actually learn and develop at the professional level. Nahhh, that's silly. My bad.
- Rinosaur

first of all he played 4 years. graduated with a harvard degree. that's why he's 23. as i'm sure you're aware most NCAA freshman are 20 nowadays. they typically play 1 or 2 years of USHLor NTDP before jumping.

Bought and paid for by the previous regime.

Every year brings them a step closer to a precipice of their own design. They've had a good run, but it won't be long until they're just barely battling for a playoff spot and trying to justify $10 million for a 50 point player.
- BINGO!

idk.

i think the seabrook and hosssa contracts are the ones they'll have a tough time overcoming in the next few years.

even then, the salary cap should cause all teams to go through a boom bust cycle; which should play out as the whole core ages.

If he ends in NJ, then he is a lock for the calder, and it was the best move of the entire off season. If he ends up anywhere else, he is an over rated nobody that doesn't have a lick of NHL street cred.
- WayneZ

NJ offers him the best chance. NJ is steadily improving their roster, but outside of Hall the LW position is a free-for-all with little to no competition. In NJ he has a good chance of letting him play through growing pains to see if he improves.

If he ends up in NJ, then he is a lock for the calder, and it was the best move of the entire off season. If he ends up anywhere else, he is an over rated nobody that doesn't have a lick of NHL street cred.
- WayneZ

you're starting to get it

idk.

i think the seabrook and hosssa contracts are the ones they'll have a tough time overcoming in the next few years.

even then, the salary cap should cause all teams to go through a boom bust cycle; which should play out as the whole core ages.
- Tumbleweed

Absolutely, but you shouldn't exacerbate the situation by overpaying your own guys.

My spidey-sense detects sarcasm.
- Rinosaur

The title question of this blog makes no sense.

Re-phrased "Is it worth giving up absolutely nothing including cap space(he can be waived if he sucks) to acquirea quality prospect?"

If anybody says no... I have no words to describe their lack of intelligence.

If the question was "Will Vesey immediately be a quality top 6 player?" then we can at least have the discussion that the blog was about.

Yes. It is worth giving up nothing to acquire a quality prospect. Every time.

- Tumbleweed

Whoa...Sexy overload

The title question of this blog makes no sense.

Re-phrased "Is it worth giving up absolutely nothing including cap space(he can be waived if he sucks) to acquirea quality prospect?"

If anybody says no... I have no words to describe their lack of intelligence.

If the question was "Will Vesey immediately be a quality top 6 player?" then we can at least have the discussion that the blog was about.

Yes. It is worth giving up nothing to acquire a quality prospect. Every time.
- Njuice

you just won the thread.

That's not the point of an ELC or what Vesey is attempting to accomplish. Vesey wants to play in the NHL right now and wants to play for a team that's going to give him that playing time.
- Rinosaur

Let buffalo make that mistake and we can all move on then

agreed.

best not to acquire new players in case they don't work out.
- Tumbleweed

NJ offers him the best chance. NJ is steadily improving their roster, but outside of Hall the LW position is a free-for-all with little to no competition. In NJ he has a good chance of letting him play through growing pains to see if he improves.
- Rinosaur

Leafs are in the same. Our only LW is JVR and we have great prospects and competition for jobs at every other position.

I think Leafs are a long shot anyways, but they fit the exact same thing as NJ, except with a better pool of youth. But no Schneiders on our team. Or 25 of the other teams in the league.

- Scabeh

i missed that. good one